Queen Elizabeth II

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.

You care enough to post.

Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”

No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?

England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.

+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.

Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?

In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.

Could you detail this very good religious case? Inquiring minds and all that.

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Long Live The King!!!

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She is dead already, they have just not announced it.

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Well it is past 6PM now (I think) and no announcement so does that mean it won't be until tomorrow?

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The Queen is someone's mother and grandmother. So your shed a tear when someone's mother and grandmother pass away. That's human emotions. Ok to do that even if you don't agree with what she did and dislike Charlie and Camilla.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it is past 6PM now (I think) and no announcement so does that mean it won't be until tomorrow?

I think they will announce late this evening. Apparently Harry has not arrived.

Also, I haven't heard one word about Princess Anne. Presumably she would be there.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it is past 6PM now (I think) and no announcement so does that mean it won't be until tomorrow?

That's my assumption. I had been waiting for the 6pm announcement.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people on this thread trying desperately to be above all of this, and yet they’re spending their time posting on a thread about it.

It’s hilarious.

I’m in a mandatory training for a program I never use. Got 45 minutes to screw around and find out if the queen is dead and if Harry spit on Chris.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.

You care enough to post.

Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”

No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?

England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.

+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.

Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?

In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.

Could you detail this very good religious case? Inquiring minds and all that.

Leviticus 20:21: "If a man marries his brother’s wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless." Similarly in Leviticus 18:16 ("Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother")

Henry VIII was, as near as we can tell from the remove of centuries, a genuinely quite religious man (albeit one with extreme flaws and vices). He had initially gotten a papal dispensation to marry Catherine of Aragon, who had previously been married to his older brother. After the death or stillbirths of many Catherine's pregnancies, he began to see that as being due to having violated the command from Leviticus.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen is someone's mother and grandmother. So your shed a tear when someone's mother and grandmother pass away. That's human emotions. Ok to do that even if you don't agree with what she did and dislike Charlie and Camilla.

Wait so when I die, because I’m not a mother nobody should cry at my death? I do not cry when other peoples grandmas in their 90’s die. That’s life, they had a long one, and it’s not MY grandma.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people on this thread trying desperately to be above all of this, and yet they’re spending their time posting on a thread about it.

It’s hilarious.

I’m in a mandatory training for a program I never use. Got 45 minutes to screw around and find out if the queen is dead and if Harry spit on Chris.

Ah yes, of course. Here’s your cookie for being superior.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it is past 6PM now (I think) and no announcement so does that mean it won't be until tomorrow?

That's my assumption. I had been waiting for the 6pm announcement.

I was thinking 7pm. Let people get home from work.

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Anonymous wrote:Well it is past 6PM now (I think) and no announcement so does that mean it won't be until tomorrow?

I think they will announce late this evening. Apparently Harry has not arrived.

Also, I haven't heard one word about Princess Anne. Presumably she would be there.

Anne was already in Scotland so she was already there.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.

You care enough to post.

Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”

No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?

England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.

+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.

Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?

In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.

It's not really accurate to claim the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan settlement. Henry VIII and the earlier Act of Supremacy is what broke England away from the Church and established the idea of the sovereign as the head of the church. The fact that Mary muddled things for a few years is sort of beside the point. It would be like saying the foundation of the English monarchy is Charles II.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen is someone's mother and grandmother. So your shed a tear when someone's mother and grandmother pass away. That's human emotions. Ok to do that even if you don't agree with what she did and dislike Charlie and Camilla.

Wait so when I die, because I’m not a mother nobody should cry at my death? I do not cry when other peoples grandmas in their 90’s die. That’s life, they had a long one, and it’s not MY grandma.

For someone who doesn't care you are spending a mighty long time on this thread.