Queen Elizabeth II

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.


+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.


Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?
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Anonymous wrote:Just saw on Fox news (sorry, DH watches), that Harry and Megan are traveling but only Harry will go to Balmoral without Megan.

No source given for that information.


Makes sense — family only. William went w/o Kate.

Kate’s not family?


The pp did not know what they were talking about. Camilla is there, so is Sophie.

Kate stayed back with the kids, who have their first day of school. If this were still summer break, I'm sure both her and the kids will go to Balmoral too.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


I think I understand your question and thought about it. Personally, there are a few people who I see as world "celebrities" who I have 0 connection to, but I pay attention to (so I guess I care). I think some of these people transcend their national borders and they come from all walks of life. They are people like Queen Elizabeth, Dali Lama, Mother Theresa, Oprah, Nelson Mandela and even the Pope. I'm sure you can think of other people, but I hope you get my point. These people have made a mark on the world in one way or another and are larger than life. Just my .02.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


I think that the fascination with royal weddings is moronic, that there's a good argument to abolish the monarchy in Britain, and could not have cared less about Diana's death. You couldn't pay me to watch The Crown.

And yet, I find myself oddly affected by this. The Queen has been head of state of our closest ally for my entire lifetime (and 20 years before that). That's astonishing, and something that should be celebrated.

I'm surprised that I care, but I do.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


I don't think many Americans will have sleepless nights over it, per se, but the woman watched over our closest allied nation for 70 years. There are many thoughts on the role of a monarchy, but I think it is undeniable that she sacrificed a great deal of personal pleasure (such as time with her family and children) to provide a steady face of the nation. It is a reflective time and certainly sad for her family and her country.


Laughable. She is a figure head. She does not give interviews or says anything that is not scripted. Her family was handled off to nannies and governesses. She had a very privileged life but did nit get along with other who took the spot light away- Diana, etc. Huge ego but that goes with the job.


I wrote "watched over," not governed, for a reason. And who is to say anyone in that position wouldn't rather watch their own kids than hand them over to nannies and governesses? When I apply for jobs I look at the amount of travel because I want to be able to do bedtime routine and be there to comfort them when they are up sick in the night. YMMV, but I'd prefer that to handing my kids over. It is simple to think that giving your kids to a nanny is preferable to being with them.
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News is showing a pic of William driving a car with Andrew, Edward and Sophie - and saying that if all of them are travelling together it must be serious. For security reasons, they tend to keep them travelling separately.
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Anonymous wrote:Random comment - Prince William drives? I'm surprised they let the future King drive, let alone drive a car full of royals.


A Range Rover being driven by Prince William and carrying Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Edward's wife Sophie has arrived at Balmoral Castle.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-62834633

William and Kate drive themselves and their family all the time.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


I’m interested because of the historical significance, but I don’t/won’t feel sadness if that makes sense.
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Anonymous wrote:News is showing a pic of William driving a car with Andrew, Edward and Sophie - and saying that if all of them are travelling together it must be serious. For security reasons, they tend to keep them travelling separately.


And, let’s face it, nobody really wants to hang with Andrew.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.


+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.


Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?


In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.
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So many people on this thread trying desperately to be above all of this, and yet they’re spending their time posting on a thread about it.

It’s hilarious.
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Anonymous wrote:So many people on this thread trying desperately to be above all of this, and yet they’re spending their time posting on a thread about it.

It’s hilarious.


That is such a silly high school thing to write. Are you 16?
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.


+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.


Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?


In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.


Sure
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.


+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.


Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?


In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.


So basically you worship the Monarch of the UK? Henry VIII did not have a good religious reason.

Henry wanted to marry Anne Boleyn, and believed she could produce an heir, but he was still married to Catherine. When he discovered that Anne Boleyn was pregnant, Henry arranged to marry her in secret at Whitehall Palace - this marked the beginning of the break with Rome.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who ... doesn't care? I have zero connection to England or the Queen, for my entire life she's been an old lady, and this just doesn't move me.

It'll be like when an actor or singer die whose name I've heard but have never watched or listened to their work. I just think "well, that's too bad for their family" and move on.


You care enough to post.


Yes, PP just wants attention. “Look at me! I’m so cool that I don’t even care!!”


No, it's not about attention or being cool. I just wondered if I'm alone. I don't understand why people with zero connection DO care. I understand caring if you've been to England, have family from there, have some connection to the royal family, but if not ... why?


England is our ally and is the ancestor, if you will, of this country's culture and laws. There are many cultures that have come into this country but the founding culture, and the basis of our system of laws, was England.


+1. My ancestors came from England, my church is in communion with (and descended from) the church of which Queen Elizabeth is the Supreme Governor, I speak her language, and I've got many British friends.


Is that the church that was created because one King wanted a divorce and a new wife?


In glib pop history, yes. In reality? No. Henry VIII had a very good (religious) case for an annulment and it was denied for largely political reasons. That also all irrelevant, because the foundation of Anglicanism is the Elizabethan Settlement, not Henry VIII.


So basically you worship the Monarch of the UK? Henry VIII did not have a good religious reason.

Henry wanted to marry Anne Boleyn, and believed she could produce an heir, but he was still married to Catherine. When he discovered that Anne Boleyn was pregnant, Henry arranged to marry her in secret at Whitehall Palace - this marked the beginning of the break with Rome.


He also wanted the Church's money from the dissolution of the Abbeys.
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