Masks in the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid denialism is rampant in this thread.

The new variants are extremely transmissible. Your kid having had it in June won't prevent them from getting it again (and missing more school, and playing the long covid lottery again) in September. You want a new teacher in your kid's classroom every month because you don't want them to mask? That's a bad result teachers, but also a bad result for your kids.


Again, pls flag yourself to your school and community and country as someone who plans on behaving as above. Very extreme. And detrimental to education in Pk-12. Go teach online programs or find a WFH job.


I'm a parent! Hey but you should volunteer to teach since you seem to think it requires no particular skills and is so easy to do -- just show your lips I guess and you're qualified. Good luck.


More efficacy in teaching if it’s in person and no face coverings. Nothing to argue or deflect about.
This is truly a political phenomenon, look at the health data yourself.



Full stop.


My eyes won’t roll as much as I want them to right now. I’m willing to bet your kids don’t care whether their teachers wear masks. This is almost always a parent’s concern, and not an important one at that. Let your kids enjoy their school year without your interference.


I’m willing to bet most lower school kids don’t care if they watch tv half the time, eat fries processed foods daily, and play Roblox a couple hours at private school either. But that’d all be a silly parent concern. So silly.


How is that comparable?


Both result in a sub par education.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid denialism is rampant in this thread.

The new variants are extremely transmissible. Your kid having had it in June won't prevent them from getting it again (and missing more school, and playing the long covid lottery again) in September. You want a new teacher in your kid's classroom every month because you don't want them to mask? That's a bad result teachers, but also a bad result for your kids.


Again, pls flag yourself to your school and community and country as someone who plans on behaving as above. Very extreme. And detrimental to education in Pk-12. Go teach online programs or find a WFH job.


I'm a parent! Hey but you should volunteer to teach since you seem to think it requires no particular skills and is so easy to do -- just show your lips I guess and you're qualified. Good luck.


More efficacy in teaching if it’s in person and no face coverings. Nothing to argue or deflect about.
This is truly a political phenomenon, look at the health data yourself.


Full stop.


My eyes won’t roll as much as I want them to right now. I’m willing to bet your kids don’t care whether their teachers wear masks. This is almost always a parent’s concern, and not an important one at that. Let your kids enjoy their school year without your interference.


I’m willing to bet most lower school kids don’t care if they watch tv half the time, eat fries processed foods daily, and play Roblox a couple hours at private school either. But that’d all be a silly parent concern. So silly.


You’re right. Those are bad choices and a parent should be concerned. A mask, though? Something that is used worldwide to promote health? One of these things is not like the others.


Masks have a lot of downsides especially in teaching children. Even besides that, it’s a far stretch to call it promoting health. Certainly not mental health.

99% of the time Covid is a minor cold and 2/3s of those are asymptomatic.

You’re not promoting anything except your personal agenda, politics and personal hyper risk intolerance. Find a job where you can stay alone at home away from people and children.


Aren’t you promoting a personal agenda and your own politics? Once again… you can choose not to wear a mask. Nobody cares. Nobody is taking away anything from you or from your children. I teach AP classes to high schoolers. Do you really think their scores are going to be affected by my mask? Not a chance, and you know that. My own children had an elementary school teacher who masked all year. Guess what? My kids are fine. They were able to connect with her and they had a positive, productive year. You claim there are downsides. If you want there to be, there will be. The rest of us have moved on to a very accepting “wear or don’t wear” position.

I don’t need to be kept away from people. I’m logical AND I’m considerate. Society works best when people act that way.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope my kids have a normal year including a teacher who doesn’t mask. Norway actually banned preschool teachers from masking. The whole mask thing is out of control. It’s f**king paper with gaps on the side and at the nose. There is a reason actual medical workers in Covid wards wore closed respirators. They just aren’t that effective and they impede learning, socialization and provide a far less enriching experience. I hate the masks and how they’ve become a security blanket for some. You haven’t gotten Covid because of luck. Not the stupid masks. It’s a free country, sort of, but it’s sh**y to hide 70% of your face from people trying to learn from you.


Bless you.
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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. We are sorting classes based on who will be wearing masks, and which families unmasked last year. If you don’t get the teacher you want, too bad.


Is this because teachers desire to wear masks 24/7?
I really hope this isn’t In lower schools, the kids don’t know what you’re mumbling and can’t read your face at all. Much less engaging.

My kids teacher wore their mask 24/7 due to wanting to coach a sport, travel for it and it negatively affected learning and behavior in the classroom. 1 lost yesr was enough, but now 2 and counting….
I’d certainly want to know if we’re getting a 3rd year if subpar education. We’d switch schools and repeat a grade. We had some testing done this summer it was not congruent with the report cards.


Almost all of the teachers I've talked to will be masking (KN95) at work. I will be as well. If a parent did not want their child's teacher to wear a mask and decided to switch schools, I can guarantee the teacher would not mind, nor would the school. As someone wrote above, it's easier to replace a student than a teacher.


Until there is an upgraded booster with efficacy, I'll be wearing a mask. Funny you think that health comes second. - teacher
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid denialism is rampant in this thread.

The new variants are extremely transmissible. Your kid having had it in June won't prevent them from getting it again (and missing more school, and playing the long covid lottery again) in September. You want a new teacher in your kid's classroom every month because you don't want them to mask? That's a bad result teachers, but also a bad result for your kids.


Again, pls flag yourself to your school and community and country as someone who plans on behaving as above. Very extreme. And detrimental to education in Pk-12. Go teach online programs or find a WFH job.


I'm a parent! Hey but you should volunteer to teach since you seem to think it requires no particular skills and is so easy to do -- just show your lips I guess and you're qualified. Good luck.


More efficacy in teaching if it’s in person and no face coverings. Nothing to argue or deflect about.
This is truly a political phenomenon, look at the health data yourself.


Full stop.


My eyes won’t roll as much as I want them to right now. I’m willing to bet your kids don’t care whether their teachers wear masks. This is almost always a parent’s concern, and not an important one at that. Let your kids enjoy their school year without your interference.


I’m willing to bet most lower school kids don’t care if they watch tv half the time, eat fries processed foods daily, and play Roblox a couple hours at private school either. But that’d all be a silly parent concern. So silly.


You’re right. Those are bad choices and a parent should be concerned. A mask, though? Something that is used worldwide to promote health? One of these things is not like the others.


Masks have a lot of downsides especially in teaching children. Even besides that, it’s a far stretch to call it promoting health. Certainly not mental health.

99% of the time Covid is a minor cold and 2/3s of those are asymptomatic.

You’re not promoting anything except your personal agenda, politics and personal hyper risk intolerance. Find a job where you can stay alone at home away from people and children.


This is not minor. Get it a few weeks ago and still sick. You do realize kids bring it home to their fami,it’s right. If your mental health is impacted by masking, seek help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. We are sorting classes based on who will be wearing masks, and which families unmasked last year. If you don’t get the teacher you want, too bad.


Is this because teachers desire to wear masks 24/7?
I really hope this isn’t In lower schools, the kids don’t know what you’re mumbling and can’t read your face at all. Much less engaging.

My kids teacher wore their mask 24/7 due to wanting to coach a sport, travel for it and it negatively affected learning and behavior in the classroom. 1 lost yesr was enough, but now 2 and counting….
I’d certainly want to know if we’re getting a 3rd year if subpar education. We’d switch schools and repeat a grade. We had some testing done this summer it was not congruent with the report cards.


Almost all of the teachers I've talked to will be masking (KN95) at work. I will be as well. If a parent did not want their child's teacher to wear a mask and decided to switch schools, I can guarantee the teacher would not mind, nor would the school. As someone wrote above, it's easier to replace a student than a teacher.


Until there is an upgraded booster with efficacy, I'll be wearing a mask. Funny you think that health comes second. - teacher


100%. My kids are wearing masks. BA 5 is more contagious than measles. Measles RO is 12 and BA 5 is 18. My child is still recovering from post acute Covid infection and now has stomach issues that we are seeing specialists for. I think once folks get reinfections their stance might change as long Covid is rising in kids and adults with each new reinfection.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid denialism is rampant in this thread.

The new variants are extremely transmissible. Your kid having had it in June won't prevent them from getting it again (and missing more school, and playing the long covid lottery again) in September. You want a new teacher in your kid's classroom every month because you don't want them to mask? That's a bad result teachers, but also a bad result for your kids.


Again, pls flag yourself to your school and community and country as someone who plans on behaving as above. Very extreme. And detrimental to education in Pk-12. Go teach online programs or find a WFH job.


I'm a parent! Hey but you should volunteer to teach since you seem to think it requires no particular skills and is so easy to do -- just show your lips I guess and you're qualified. Good luck.


More efficacy in teaching if it’s in person and no face coverings. Nothing to argue or deflect about.
This is truly a political phenomenon, look at the health data yourself.


Full stop.


My eyes won’t roll as much as I want them to right now. I’m willing to bet your kids don’t care whether their teachers wear masks. This is almost always a parent’s concern, and not an important one at that. Let your kids enjoy their school year without your interference.


I’m willing to bet most lower school kids don’t care if they watch tv half the time, eat fries processed foods daily, and play Roblox a couple hours at private school either. But that’d all be a silly parent concern. So silly.


You’re right. Those are bad choices and a parent should be concerned. A mask, though? Something that is used worldwide to promote health? One of these things is not like the others.


It's tough as a teacher to see a fat, lethargic kid who is clearly being fed bad foods and not pushed to be active. But guess what - that is beyond the individual teacher's control. I only see your kid for 50 minutes five days a week. What happens during that 50 minutes is under my control (and the school's) so we, as teachers, get to make the best choices we can.

Conflating irrelevant factors is a logical fallacy. Look that up if the words are too big for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid denialism is rampant in this thread.

The new variants are extremely transmissible. Your kid having had it in June won't prevent them from getting it again (and missing more school, and playing the long covid lottery again) in September. You want a new teacher in your kid's classroom every month because you don't want them to mask? That's a bad result teachers, but also a bad result for your kids.


Again, pls flag yourself to your school and community and country as someone who plans on behaving as above. Very extreme. And detrimental to education in Pk-12. Go teach online programs or find a WFH job.


I'm a parent! Hey but you should volunteer to teach since you seem to think it requires no particular skills and is so easy to do -- just show your lips I guess and you're qualified. Good luck.


More efficacy in teaching if it’s in person and no face coverings. Nothing to argue or deflect about.
This is truly a political phenomenon, look at the health data yourself.


Full stop.


My eyes won’t roll as much as I want them to right now. I’m willing to bet your kids don’t care whether their teachers wear masks. This is almost always a parent’s concern, and not an important one at that. Let your kids enjoy their school year without your interference.


I’m willing to bet most lower school kids don’t care if they watch tv half the time, eat fries processed foods daily, and play Roblox a couple hours at private school either. But that’d all be a silly parent concern. So silly.


You’re right. Those are bad choices and a parent should be concerned. A mask, though? Something that is used worldwide to promote health? One of these things is not like the others.


Masks have a lot of downsides especially in teaching children. Even besides that, it’s a far stretch to call it promoting health. Certainly not mental health.

99% of the time Covid is a minor cold and 2/3s of those are asymptomatic.

You’re not promoting anything except your personal agenda, politics and personal hyper risk intolerance. Find a job where you can stay alone at home away from people and children.


Aren’t you promoting a personal agenda and your own politics? Once again… you can choose not to wear a mask. Nobody cares. Nobody is taking away anything from you or from your children. I teach AP classes to high schoolers. Do you really think their scores are going to be affected by my mask? Not a chance, and you know that. My own children had an elementary school teacher who masked all year. Guess what? My kids are fine. They were able to connect with her and they had a positive, productive year. You claim there are downsides. If you want there to be, there will be. The rest of us have moved on to a very accepting “wear or don’t wear” position.

I don’t need to be kept away from people. I’m logical AND I’m considerate. Society works best when people act that way.

Can you address k-8 which was specified? Screens and masked faces for childhood development and teaching/listening efficacy? That’s the subtopic you’re attempting to respond to.

No AP classes in the colluding DC area private schools, and very few masked teachers in the non independent schools.
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Maybe everyone who wants to wear masks indefinitely should go into teaching, but only in the Washington DC bubble.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I hope my kids have a normal year including a teacher who doesn’t mask. Norway actually banned preschool teachers from masking. The whole mask thing is out of control. It’s f**king paper with gaps on the side and at the nose. There is a reason actual medical workers in Covid wards wore closed respirators. They just aren’t that effective and they impede learning, socialization and provide a far less enriching experience. I hate the masks and how they’ve become a security blanket for some. You haven’t gotten Covid because of luck. Not the stupid masks. It’s a free country, sort of, but it’s sh**y to hide 70% of your face from people trying to learn from you.


Bless you.


+ 1 I wish I had the guts to say this out loud. I'm sure my kids' school will be mask optional but I'm hoping their teachers will not be wearing masks.
Anonymous
Masks and vax mandates welcome to Dc private school insanity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope my kids have a normal year including a teacher who doesn’t mask. Norway actually banned preschool teachers from masking. The whole mask thing is out of control. It’s f**king paper with gaps on the side and at the nose. There is a reason actual medical workers in Covid wards wore closed respirators. They just aren’t that effective and they impede learning, socialization and provide a far less enriching experience. I hate the masks and how they’ve become a security blanket for some. You haven’t gotten Covid because of luck. Not the stupid masks. It’s a free country, sort of, but it’s sh**y to hide 70% of your face from people trying to learn from you.


Bless you.


+ 1 I wish I had the guts to say this out loud. I'm sure my kids' school will be mask optional but I'm hoping their teachers will not be wearing masks.


I’m glad you aren’t saying it out loud because it comes across severely entitled. Teachers are already so belittled and unappreciated, so telling them your desire trumps their health would be a final straw. Fortunately, there isn’t a private school in the region that is going to mandate teachers have to go mask-free in some effort to please the “no masks at all” crowd.

When our school went mask-optional last year, it ushered in a time of 20%-25% daily absenteeism. We all got sick. Those who avoided it ended up using every free period covering for colleagues. Classes lost their teachers for 1-2 weeks at a time. Then the remaining teachers got sick or burned out. It was a miserable season. We also had chronic absenteeism among the students, including students who missed 2-4 weeks because their cases were so bad. Perhaps you haven’t met people who have had their lives turned upside-down by this virus. Teachers have. If a well-fitting KN95 keeps that from happening again, sign me up.
Anonymous
So have any schools actually addressed plans for the fall yet? Private or Catholic?
Anonymous
Get your five year old vaxxed with a worthless vaccine my private just sent us. My five year old has had Covid. Was a little under the weather for a day. why would I give her a shot now? Anyone else in this boat and struggling with what to do.
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Anonymous wrote:Get your five year old vaxxed with a worthless vaccine my private just sent us. My five year old has had Covid. Was a little under the weather for a day. why would I give her a shot now? Anyone else in this boat and struggling with what to do.


I’d refuse until they figure out the effects on the menstrual cycle and why it occurred. I am vaccinated and don’t care as I’m through having kids. But I would be rather nervous vaccinating a five year old girl and like you say, most kids have very mild COVID or asymptomatic, which pre-covid was called not being sick.
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