Data today 7pm

[Anonymous]

I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing that they are thinking that Friday will be a snow day, so if they preemptively change it to the one day teacher changeover day and have the kids work asynchronous, then they don’t have to watch the weather. Then the county will start a 2 week virtual on Monday. Just my guess.

[Anonymous]

on the bright side, there should be enough buses for the could of schools that open

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

I know there's no magic fix here, but maybe you could do an AMA or spin off thread with your thoughts on what we can all be doing to help our kids through this nightmare.
DP, but Omicron spread in absolute terms is not the issue. The issue is whether the consequences of Omicron spread *specific to schools* outweighs the (massive) negative consequences of virtual learning to kids.

I mean, if you think COVID is bad for kids, wait until you see the effects of chronic stress. I wish I were kidding, but as a licensed mental health professional with expertise in clinical neuroscience, I’m more than a little terrified. Just because you don’t see it now doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:on the bright side, there should be enough buses for the could of schools that open

🤣 😂

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Anonymous wrote:Wow they got almost every school in the red within 24 hours! That was faster than I expected! So their plan worked to shift to virtual. Deny education to our kids… another year down the drain.

And yet people like you accuse people like me (who thought MCPS should have never gone back, and just called 2-4 weeks of virtual) of being overly dramatic and "needing psychological help?"

Don't bother. The trolls are out in full force on the thread, desperately trying to side-track the discussion, insult reasonable posters and throw fits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The educational system in MoCo is broken - the County and MCPS leadership are unwilling and incapable of serving the educational needs of the children of this county. Tear it all down.

Where do I sign

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.

They are insane trolls stirring up shite.

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Anonymous wrote:on the bright side, there should be enough buses for the could of schools that open

🤣 😂

Ha ha!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand why they are counting 14 days? Why not cases over the past 10 days?

Because 14 days is the formula from the state department of education as well as the CDC school guidance. All along they have said that 5% or more positivity rate within 14 days the kids are safer at home because community spread is too high.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.

Yes imagine the nerve - thinking that our kids should be educated by the public educational system. None of the bus drivers and custodial staff were out today because of Covid that spread in schools. And somehow businesses across America - and school systems across America - have managed to stay open precisely because of (surprise!) vaccines and other health interventions. Only MCPS can't manage to do it, and we parents in Montgomery County who expect anything of our school system are just selfish death mongers and "the worst of the worst." Right back at you.

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

You big dummy. The winter break cases were not from school spread. It may be from staff going to bars or holiday parties and everyone traveling, seeing extended relatives, and going to restaurants, movies, and shopping. But schools have been closed for two weeks.

The data is also grossly flawed because the premise is self reporting - not in school testing or showing a test result. MCPS agenda was to close schools do closing they are. It doesn’t matter that a test to stay play would allow in person school to continue while keeping COVID staff and students home.

DP, but are you suggesting that if the schools HAD been open, it wouldn't have spread any further?

PP is saying it WILL spread in schools if it has ALREADY spread elsewhere in the community.

You can only be implying-- along with another person upthread who may be you, who said "No one got Covid over the past 14 days from going to school"-- one of two things.

1) People like PP and I thought kids were in school and that's why it spread. Even you don't think we are that dumb.

2) Because it wasn't spread in schools BECAUSE THEY WERE CLOSED SO WHETHER OR NOT SCHOOL IS A VECTOR IT COULDN'T SPREAD THROUGH SCHOOLS we should keep schools open because.... uhhhh... that means it won't spread through schools or it doesn't matter if will spread through schools.

Excellent logic, good job.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a stark change. For those without the links -

yesterday:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/Coronavirus/dashboaird/MCPS%20COVID-19%20Cases%20Winter%20Break%20Through%206%20am%20January%203%202022%20with%20Categories.pdf

today:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/Coronavirus/dashboaird/14-Day%20COVID-19%20Case%20Reports%20December%2023%20-%20January%205.pdf

Yeah it's like new years eve was a super spreader day. Who could have possibly foreseen that?

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Anonymous wrote:This is the wrong measurement for cases during the break.

None or very few of those people who tested positive during the past 14 days were even at the schools when they tested positive so it does not make sense based on the data to move to virtual.

Our school sent out the dates of positive tests and some were back in Dec. 23 but only reported to the school now as the families may be in quarantine and the students missed school. Several families in DD's school were traveling and cannot return due to one member of the family still being sick. They got sick during their travels. That does not impact spread at their elementary right now.

It would be interesting to know how many of the positive cases today also were not in school in the past 14 days. It is possible some of the positive cases added today were tested in school today, though it is more likely that nearly all of the positives reported so far are for kids who either tested positive over break or were sick today and stayed home and just received test results--in other words, schools are being shuttered because of sick kids who are not even there.