Data today 7pm

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

DP, but Omicron spread in absolute terms is not the issue. The issue is whether the consequences of Omicron spread *specific to schools* outweighs the (massive) negative consequences of virtual learning to kids.

I mean, if you think COVID is bad for kids, wait until you see the effects of chronic stress. I wish I were kidding, but as a licensed mental health professional with expertise in clinical neuroscience, I’m more than a little terrified. Just because you don’t see it now doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

No, you don't either. My husband is a doctor, and he sees the hospital saturation, WHICH KILLS PEOPLE, through poor standard of care. MD hospitals are now immune from lawsuits because of the emergency order. You can die of your car accident or heart attack, PP, without any kind of compensation, because Covid patients are clogging up the hospitals because you were concerned about anxiety and depression and didn't want to close schools. Saving lives is more important than anything else.

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The educational system in MoCo is broken - the County and MCPS leadership are unwilling and incapable of serving the educational needs of the children of this county. Tear it all down.

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Wow.

That is a lot of red.

So, what are they going to do?

Has anyone heard from a school that was open today that will be closed tomorrow? This is insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they not sending out the emails anymore about cases in your school? I see our school has added several cases since yesterday but I have received no email notifications.

No notifications at my school since 12/22. I did hear some schools in MCPA sent them over break, which surprised me.

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So are the red schools automatically closed? Didn’t they say they were going to evaluate first?

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This is the wrong measurement for cases during the break.

None or very few of those people who tested positive during the past 14 days were even at the schools when they tested positive so it does not make sense based on the data to move to virtual.

Our school sent out the dates of positive tests and some were back in Dec. 23 but only reported to the school now as the families may be in quarantine and the students missed school. Several families in DD's school were traveling and cannot return due to one member of the family still being sick. They got sick during their travels. That does not impact spread at their elementary right now.

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

DP, but Omicron spread in absolute terms is not the issue. The issue is whether the consequences of Omicron spread *specific to schools* outweighs the (massive) negative consequences of virtual learning to kids.

I mean, if you think COVID is bad for kids, wait until you see the effects of chronic stress. I wish I were kidding, but as a licensed mental health professional with expertise in clinical neuroscience, I’m more than a little terrified. Just because you don’t see it now doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

No, you don't either. My husband is a doctor, and he sees the hospital saturation, WHICH KILLS PEOPLE, through poor standard of care. MD hospitals are now immune from lawsuits because of the emergency order. You can die of your car accident or heart attack, PP, without any kind of compensation, because Covid patients are clogging up the hospitals because you were concerned about anxiety and depression and didn't want to close schools. Saving lives is more important than anything else.

If your husband really is a physician, he should read the literature that indicates covid does not contribute to community spread, and you should not spreading misinformation that is harming children especially those with less means than you.

I think you mean school, not covid, does not result in community spread.

That was all data based on wild type and alpha mostly. It was barely a bit delta. It certainly wasn't Omicron.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow.

That is a lot of red.

So, what are they going to do?

Has anyone heard from a school that was open today that will be closed tomorrow? This is insane.

Our PTSA president said "any new red school is still in person tomorrow."

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

DP, but Omicron spread in absolute terms is not the issue. The issue is whether the consequences of Omicron spread *specific to schools* outweighs the (massive) negative consequences of virtual learning to kids.

I mean, if you think COVID is bad for kids, wait until you see the effects of chronic stress. I wish I were kidding, but as a licensed mental health professional with expertise in clinical neuroscience, I’m more than a little terrified. Just because you don’t see it now doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

No, you don't either. My husband is a doctor, and he sees the hospital saturation, WHICH KILLS PEOPLE, through poor standard of care. MD hospitals are now immune from lawsuits because of the emergency order. You can die of your car accident or heart attack, PP, without any kind of compensation, because Covid patients are clogging up the hospitals because you were concerned about anxiety and depression and didn't want to close schools. Saving lives is more important than anything else.

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If that is truly the case, then why aren't you out campaigning to close everything else in America. No one got Covid over the past 14 days from going to school - they travelled and went to restaurants and movie theaters and sports arenas. Close all that down and keep the schools open.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow.

That is a lot of red.

So, what are they going to do?

Has anyone heard from a school that was open today that will be closed tomorrow? This is insane.

No but the web site says all schools other than the original 11 will have school Jan. 6. and that MCPS will consult with the health dept about next steps.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a new report up as of 4:00pm today, but it isn't color coded and doesn't show percentages?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/Coronavirus/dashboaird/Daily%20COVID-19%20Case%20Reports%20January%205%202022.pdf

Wow. Our high school dropped by 42 cases. There’s 0 staff out with COVID according to the new report. We should now be in the green.

Those are just the cases reported today, not the cumulative cases. There’s a separate document with the total cases since winter break started.

Yes, it's interesting to have the two sets of data.

WTH - 4pm 35 cases. 7pm 137 cases - red. Total Whiplash.

How long till MCPS take vaccinated students and staff off their lists? At what point is the entire school system essentially online? How will Special Education students who could not receive accommodations and services during the last 18 months of online learning going to receive accommodations and services now?

This is a nightmare.

My SN child, and all the other SN children I know, received services and accommodations. I have no complaints.
Don't use special needs as your pitchfork.

I don't know what utopia you're living in but I have my feet firmly planted in Montgomery County and my SN child was barely given services last year at all. And MCPS's claims of "compensatory services" have been hollow and empty, no surprise there.

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Anonymous wrote:So many schools are red! But it still says this is from cases starting December 23, so some of them must have aged out and shouldn’t be included when looking at data from the last 14 days.

This! Why is MCPS counting more than 14 days when it said 14 days?

+1 MCPS has already been closed for two weeks. The numbers are not spread in schools. Cases reported before winter break would be cleared to return from quarantine.

Another 14 days is a MONTH out of the school building. MCPS is a rats nest mess. Just more trickery to deny children in person instruction.

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No you don't. Community school = school spread. Omicron is 10 times more transmissible than Delta. It's not up for debate that Omicron spreads in schools, particularly during the elbow-to-elbow unmasked lunch.

You big dummy. The winter break cases were not from school spread. It may be from staff going to bars or holiday parties and everyone traveling, seeing extended relatives, and going to restaurants, movies, and shopping. But schools have been closed for two weeks.

The data is also grossly flawed because the premise is self reporting - not in school testing or showing a test result. MCPS agenda was to close schools do closing they are. It doesn’t matter that a test to stay play would allow in person school to continue while keeping COVID staff and students home.

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If that is truly the case, then why aren't you out campaigning to close everything else in America. No one got Covid over the past 14 days from going to school - they travelled and went to restaurants and movie theaters and sports arenas. Close all that down and keep the schools open.

It's almost as though you're engaging in whataboutism or something.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow they got almost every school in the red within 24 hours! That was faster than I expected! So their plan worked to shift to virtual. Deny education to our kids… another year down the drain.

And yet people like you accuse people like me (who thought MCPS should have never gone back, and just called 2-4 weeks of virtual) of being overly dramatic and "needing psychological help?"

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It's a stark change. For those without the links -

yesterday:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/Coronavirus/dashboaird/MCPS%20COVID-19%20Cases%20Winter%20Break%20Through%206%20am%20January%203%202022%20with%20Categories.pdf

today:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/Coronavirus/dashboaird/14-Day%20COVID-19%20Case%20Reports%20December%2023%20-%20January%205.pdf