Lockdown at Blair?

[Anonymous]

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Um yeah if a company is selling apples and some of them are poisonous and they don't try to get rid of the poisonous apples then hell no I am not eating any of those apples.

And I am sure as f^ck not giving any of those apples to my children.

right .. so if someone is trying to hurt you, break into your house or your car, you are not going to call the cops? Are you going to call the community engagement officer LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Two bad apples, actually. You are also missing the other part of the saying. "One bad apple spoils the batch."

In this case, the spoiled batch is the entire culture of policing that has made it impossible to seek consequences for abusive cops. From the partner who covered for him, to the superiors who didn't take action, to the union who pushed laws to shield them - this system is corrupt top to bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Um yeah if a company is selling apples and some of them are poisonous and they don't try to get rid of the poisonous apples then hell no I am not eating any of those apples.

And I am sure as f^ck not giving any of those apples to my children.

so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Two bad apples, actually. You are also missing the other part of the saying. "One bad apple spoils the batch."

In this case, the spoiled batch is the entire culture of policing that has made it impossible to seek consequences for abusive cops. From the partner who covered for him, to the superiors who didn't take action, to the union who pushed laws to shield them - this system is corrupt top to bottom.

who are you going to call when someone is breaking into your house?

[Anonymous]

so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

[Anonymous]

Police are not security guards. Schools can hire security guards.

[Anonymous]

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so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

wait.. so you are mad because a few cops who are paid for by your tax dollars did something bad, so the whole batch must be thrown out?

Again, who are you going to call when someone is breaking into your home. Even better... if someone was hurting your child, would you call the cops or not because, you know.. one bad apple ruined the whole bunch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Um yeah if a company is selling apples and some of them are poisonous and they don't try to get rid of the poisonous apples then hell no I am not eating any of those apples.

And I am sure as f^ck not giving any of those apples to my children.

so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

Well our society arrests Black kids, unfortunately too often. They do not arrest police officers that harm residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Um yeah if a company is selling apples and some of them are poisonous and they don't try to get rid of the poisonous apples then hell no I am not eating any of those apples.

And I am sure as f^ck not giving any of those apples to my children.

so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

You won’t get a response to that. Obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

You can call it a strawman all you want, but public opinion in Montgomery County swung HARD against SROs when that video dropped. Turns out parents really don't like seeing 300 lb cops screaming in the faces of kindergartners. So, I guess you can thank Offc Christmom for the fact that SROs are gone.

[Anonymous]

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so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

What race were the cops who yelled at the 5 year old? They acted with the power of the state. Does that mean all people of that race are bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

NP here. Please show me that data that SROs dont deter violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

wait.. so you are mad because a few cops who are paid for by your tax dollars did something bad, so the whole batch must be thrown out?

Again, who are you going to call when someone is breaking into your home. Even better... if someone was hurting your child, would you call the cops or not because, you know.. one bad apple ruined the whole bunch?

No, I'm mad because a few cops paid by my tax dollars did something bad and then the entire police apparatus swung into action to ensure they did not face consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

I'm sorry.. are community engagement officers the same as security guards?