Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024
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If you have the money, you have the choice. Government is not giving $65,000 vouchers per child to send your kid to Potomac or Sidwell. If you’re a Republican, you would protest such a give-away and you know it. |
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I don't disagree with much of this. My main problem with Harris/Walz is that they are fundamentally unknown quantities. Walz does have some substantive policy achievements in MN, which gives me a little hope. Together with the fact that Dems historically have been stronger on more issues I care about, including turning around terrible economies they inherited, women's rights, worker's rights, climate change etc. Both sides spin so much, I'm not always clear on what they actually believe in. Vance is the king of spin, as he made clear last night in his effort to whitewash Trump and the MAGA platform. So, yes, anything is better than Trump/Vance. Their constant stream of lies, allegiance to the interests of the 1%, misogyny, and disinterest in protecting democracy are disqualifying. Period. |
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He misspoke. Not that big of a deal when compared to the garbage statements coming out of Trump and Vance. |
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Visually, Vance looked better and was calmer than Walz. Waltz is folksy and relatable but the split screen visual did go in Vance’s favor with Walz appearing sweaty and anxious. Remember, younger generations know all about social media and how to look better, sound better and be insta ready angled.
The age difference did show just as with Trump vs Harris. Look as far back at Kennedy vs Nixon. There is a lesson to be learned about how to present yourself and how others will view you. Calm means you are winning. |
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Republicans don't actually care about lying, they just don't want their leaders to admit it. Vance lied all night. He was even caught on camera for lying and calling Haitian immigrants ILLEGALS when they are in Springfield on legal visas. |
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None of this will matter in a week. Trump is still at the top of the ticket and Vance wrote the forward to Project 2025. |
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This! This was the only question and response that really mattered in the whole debate. Vance refused to address the question of whether Trump lost the 2020 election. What else do you need to know about him? Here's the exchange: Walz then reminded Vance that Trump still refuses to concede he lost the election and asked Vance directly: "Did he lose the 2020 election?" "Tim, I'm focused on the future," Vance responded. "Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?" "That is a damning non-answer," Walz said. |
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Polls are mostly coming out tied or split even. But the two groups Walz is consistently winning are: 1) independents and 2) 25 and under (young people). Vance seems to have slight edge only with over 55 without a college degrees. It seems like style over substance might win over the less educated and older crowd, versus the younger people generations. |
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Climate change
Amid the devastating damage from Hurricane Helene, both were asked if climate change was contributing to such extreme weather events. Walz emphatically said climate change was "real" while Vance expressed skepticism about "weird science," stating carbon emissions were contributing to the climate crisis. Health care, Vance was pressed on Trump's comment that he only had "concepts of a plan" to replace the Affordable Care Act and how their administration would protect people with preexisting conditions. He also distorted many of Trump's actions on the ACA and claimed Trump made the law stronger, which he actually tried to kill twice but failed thanks to the late great John McCain. Housing crisis Walz was asked about Harris' plan to build three million new homes (which he argued would not drive up prices and would lead to generational wealth) and whether he believed it was likely Congress would agree to her proposal for an enhanced Child Tax Credit. He said both high housing and child care costs were the biggest burdens on American families. Abortion Vance claimed that he never supported a national abortion ban, despite previously signaling support for a bill introduced by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham that would ban abortion after 15 weeks nationwide. Walz spoke about the women whose health has been negatively impacted by state-level restrictions since the fall of Roe v. Wade. Walz blamed Trump for the Supreme Court nominations he said "put this all into motion." Groundhog Day Jan 6 Vance refused to say if he will accept election, doesn't condemn Jan. 6 Near end, Vance was asked if he would seek to challenge the 2024 election even if every governor certified the results. However, the senator sidestepped the question and pivoted to what he claimed was Harris and tech companies censoring people. He also brought up the endorsements of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard. Walz said he was troubled by Vance's statement and said such denials needed to come to an end. "Here we are, four years later, in the same boat. I will tell you, that when this is over, we need to shake hands, this election, and the winner needs to be the winner. This has got to stop. It's tearing our country apart.” Amen Gov Walz https://apple.news/AWaCpHbXDQ_606DUDARVptQ |
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Vance looked super slick but dodged all the hard issues, and doubled-down on the pet-eating story. Walz struggled but his sincerity was apparent. So naturally, people think Vance won. And they even like him more. Aren't voters dumb? |
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Agree. Walz landed the only knock-out punch of the entire otherwise boring debate. The one moment that will go viral. |