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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think Harris will win.  I'm not really excited about that but I can't imagine Trump.

I still feel both are equally bad for different reasons.  It's nothing to be proud of.  Y'all who suggest Walz did great last night weren't actually watching objectively.  You love him and are Dems but objectively, his performance was not impressive for the high profile event this was.  You can say Vance's policies suck and he's a slimy imbicile but his performance was objectively better.

I think that it's about 2028.  Nobody wins for the next 4 years - these people are all fools.   Harris will drive us all to the ground but yes, for whatever it's worth I suppose she's better than Trump/Vance.[/quote]

I don't disagree with much of this. My main problem with Harris/Walz is that they are fundamentally unknown quantities. Walz does have some substantive policy achievements in MN, which gives me a little hope. Together with the fact that Dems historically have been stronger on more issues I care about, including turning around terrible economies they inherited, women's rights, worker's rights, climate change etc.

Both sides spin so much, I'm not always clear on what they actually believe in. Vance is the king of spin, as he made clear last night in his effort to whitewash Trump and the MAGA platform. So, yes, anything is better than Trump/Vance. Their constant stream of lies, allegiance to the interests of the 1%, misogyny, and disinterest in protecting democracy are disqualifying. Period.[/quote]

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