Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I agree with you, but I'm a conservative. Well, I'm actually a moderate who these days considers myself a conservative because the left went so far. But it does seem like you're on the wrong side

I think she was more wrong than he was, though, both for the dog off leash and the specific references to his race in her threats, even though he clearly had a chip on his shoulder. Neither of them were behaving like well adjusted people.

There was zero excuse for the racist remarks but his behavior was not appropriate either and it very much looked like he was looking for a fight. One or both should have acted like grown ups and when he didn't get what he wanted walk away or if she was threatened get on her phone to have someone on the line and walk away. Why he had to pull out his phone and engage or why she had to engage, I don't get. But, him admitting to trying to call the dog over and offering the dog treats without her consent is pretty telling given he has clearly done this before. If this was a child, would we be ok with him calling over a child for treats? Central Park is pretty big. There was plenty of space for both of them. He just insisted he have her spot and she wasn't welcome there with her dog. Even if that dog was on a leash he probably would have wanted it gone as it bothered his birds. He should have equal employment and social consequences.

Omfg.

HE DID NOTHING WRONG. NOTHING.

Stop trying to blame the victim. This was 100% on her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.

Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?

All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?

Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.

We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.

If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?

yeah, but it’s not a child. Are you one of those idiots who thinks a dog is equivalent to a child? It’s property and it has no rights.

[Anonymous]

So, can we finally agree this woman is crazy? Have you read the latest news about how she stalked a white male colleague, made aggressive threats, filed multiple police reports and ultimately filed a lawsuit against him?

Remember several pages ago when multiple posters said she wasn’t crazy—just racist?

Remember all the posts saying she would never disrespect a white man? Remember the posts that claimed she was an angel at work and her colleagues would defend her?

I told you she was an aggressive lunatic!

And, she is also racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.

Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?

All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?

Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.

We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.

If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?

So, you’ve made up your own version of reality where there’s a longer video containing information that is somehow being suppressed, and you’re instant on shifting the conversation from what actually happened to hypotheticals about children. Mmmmmmkay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.

Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

[Anonymous]

Over here in beautiful Marin County there is not a single thread on the neighborhood sites that mention Amy Cooper. That’s because this is an area that is raising the next generation of Amy Coopers. Nor is there a single mention of the riots on the neighborhood threads. The white silence is just awful. Most recently the AG had to step in with a desegregation order. 5 minutes from Tiburon and Mill Valley and literally just over the Golden Gate Bridge. Hardly made the news. Some high school kids made a video about the situation and it barely got any attention. This principal named Matt Nagle (look it up) with years of experience came in and ran against the superintendent of schools with a platform for more equal education. He was demoted to a kindergarten teacher role (he sued and eventually won). But seriously, take a look at what the wealthiest liberal areas of the country are like and suggest how we fix this racism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SOs3kisbe74

[Anonymous]

The video gives you a good sense of the level of racism going on. The approach here is if you first restrict the home buying through real estate agents, then make it unbearable for the non white folks if they do get a place, profile them, use social control to add pressure, take away their educational opportunities.. they will leave and it will be all white and therefor no racism. It’s sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I have a really neat idea! Why don’t you go back and support each one of the assertions you’ve made with actual data? Maybe start with the one about how there’s a longer video out there. How do you know this? Have you seen it? Can you provide a link? Otherwise you’re just repeating things that you’re fabricating — for whatever reasons. How about some sort of data to support every time you used the words “clear” and “clearly”? Hint:Most things that are as “clear” as you seem to see them wouldn’t rack up 90 pages of comments.

Hmmmm. Lots of unsubstantiated black and white assertions, insistence on “rights” and “wrongs”, and starting off your comment by introducing your supposed political persuasion when the topic really isn’t a political one at all. Are you SURE you’re “very liberal”?

All we have is his statements which were concerning about his actions and the short video. I would like to see the before and after and if anyone was a witness to hear from them. Everyone is jumping to judgement from a short video and his statement and there is clearly more to this story. You can just look at a short video and pass judgement but I will not. I want to really know what was said between them and not just his version. He made himself look to be a good guy but a good guy doesn't harass a women in a park because he didn't get what he wants. He doesn't carry dog treats and call over a dog if he was not looking for drama. Why did he call the dog over and offer treats? What was his plan with that dog? There are too many questions not answered. You don't at all want to see what happened before and after in the video that wasn't shown? Why? Its easier to scream and blame her. What if more videos come out showing the entire incident?

Let me try this again: Can you —or anyone — substantiate the assertion that there even IS a longer video? If not, all they”what if’s” and speculations are just imaginative projections at best.

We don't know if there is or is not. He isn't showing it. And, all we have is his account of what happened. There are no witnesses and she has not made a statement of what happened, only an apology. But, if you look at his statement, there are several red flags of his behaviors that are concerning. It isn't good judgement for a man to approach a woman in a park, especially if no one else is around and then get into an altercation with her. He clearly set it up as he stated he called her dog over and offered it treats. That dog was reacting to him calling the dog over and offering treats. She was preventing him from taking her dog.

If this were a child, would you be ok with a stranger calling over the child and offering it treats?

yeah, but it’s not a child. Are you one of those idiots who thinks a dog is equivalent to a child? It’s property and it has no rights.

I must be very confused. Are there laws that children must be leashed in Central Park?

Last time I checked dogs are animals and children are human beings. But, but, what if? What if his phone was actually a gun? And what if his binoculars were actually an armored tank? Wouldn’t you be scared for your life? What if we completely change the situation so that poor white lady is innocent?

[Anonymous]

Hopefully he rethinks his scare tactics. Hopefully she rethinks her privileged white lady tears. And I wish she'd be charged for reporting a false crime. Sadly, I bet none of these happen.

[Anonymous]

This creepy birder is not a VICTIM just stop.
He is the aggressor both then and later. There was clearly a longer conversation where he also tells her to go to another part of the park. He wanted that park to himself and he threatened a woman to get it. Faced with that guy, I would have been intimidated. Too bad SHE didn’t think to whip out HER phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he rethinks his scare tactics. Hopefully she rethinks her privileged white lady tears. And I wish she'd be charged for reporting a false crime. Sadly, I bet none of these happen.

It wasn’t a false crime. She shouldn’t have said threatening her life but people say crazy things when threatened. Unfortunately I have seen and know too many cases where what was left after a conversation like this is a woman’s body. I’m sure she knew that as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he rethinks his scare tactics. Hopefully she rethinks her privileged white lady tears. And I wish she'd be charged for reporting a false crime. Sadly, I bet none of these happen.

It wasn’t a false crime. She shouldn’t have said threatening her life but people say crazy things when threatened. Unfortunately I have seen and know too many cases where what was left after a conversation like this is a woman’s body. I’m sure she knew that as well.

mmmm, as frustrated as I am with the posters who refuse to see he played a part, I'm frustrated with the ones making her fear a bigger deal than it was. Many posters have made good points that if she was really afraid, she would have left - not gotten in his face.

If we'd all step back and not just try to see the side that makes us "right", we'd all benefit and learn something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.

Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

Yes. This thread would be a lot shorter if there weren't so many people trying to blame the black victim for baiting and setting up the white racist to victimize him.

It is so disheartening the lengths that people will go, to shift the blame to victims.

The woman caused the entire problem by first not leashing her dog in a protected bird habitat and second, when asked politely, refusing and arguing about being called out for being an a$$hole. Everything after that was a direct cause of her actions. She was given a second chance to either put the leash on or leave, but she had to argue that she had a right to break the law.Sorry, but she was the instigator and 100% to blame for everything that happened after that. PERIOD.

[Anonymous]

What she should have done according to posters is said to herself, “OMG this guy wants me to leave the park, and he’s threatening me and my dog, so I should get out of here ASAP because he says so. Or else “
#womanisthevictim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.




Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

Yes. This thread would be a lot shorter if there weren't so many people trying to blame the black victim for baiting and setting up the white racist to victimize him.

It is so disheartening the lengths that people will go, to shift the blame to victims.

The woman caused the entire problem by first not leashing her dog in a protected bird habitat and second, when asked politely, refusing and arguing about being called out for being an a$$hole. Everything after that was a direct cause of her actions. She was given a second chance to either put the leash on or leave, but she had to argue that she had a right to break the law.Sorry, but she was the instigator and 100% to blame for everything that happened after that. PERIOD.

HE is the instigator throughout. Leave or else.