Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This creepy birder is not a VICTIM just stop.
He is the aggressor both then and later. There was clearly a longer conversation where he also tells her to go to another part of the park. He wanted that park to himself and he threatened a woman to get it. Faced with that guy, I would have been intimidated. Too bad SHE didn’t think to whip out HER phone.

Absolutely wrong. Everything that happened was a direct result of her breaking the law and then when asked politely, refusing the comply and arguing that she had a right to break the law even to the point of letting her dog run through the underbrush and plantings. The entire point of the leash law was to protect the habitat and plantings for the birds. She basically said that her entitled self and dog were more important. She had a second chance to either leash the dog or leave the area when asked politely. She refused. Everything that happened from that point on are based on her illegal and asinine behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.

Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

This. There is no controversy about the George Floyd situation. Just horrifying. I am not personally triggered by Amy Cooper or defending her actions. I am not conservative and don't watch FOX news. I don't approve of unleashed dogs in prohibited places BUT I don't think vigilante moves of baiting dogs with treats is appropriate either. If it were a white woman offering treats to get a dog leashed I wouldn't agree with that either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I agree with you, but I'm a conservative. Well, I'm actually a moderate who these days considers myself a conservative because the left went so far. But it does seem like you're on the wrong side

I think she was more wrong than he was, though, both for the dog off leash and the specific references to his race in her threats, even though he clearly had a chip on his shoulder. Neither of them were behaving like well adjusted people.

(AND the animal abuse of course!)

That was not animal abuse. She was trying to keep the dog away from him and keep him with her.

The simpler option would have been to clip the leash on the dog then make her phone call. But that would have meant he won the argument to leash the dog. Rather than take the leash that was in her hand, she was choking the dog by its collar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I agree with you, but I'm a conservative. Well, I'm actually a moderate who these days considers myself a conservative because the left went so far. But it does seem like you're on the wrong side

I think she was more wrong than he was, though, both for the dog off leash and the specific references to his race in her threats, even though he clearly had a chip on his shoulder. Neither of them were behaving like well adjusted people.

(AND the animal abuse of course!)

That was not animal abuse. She was trying to keep the dog away from him and keep him with her.

The simpler option would have been to clip the leash on the dog then make her phone call. But that would have meant he won the argument to leash the dog. Rather than take the leash that was in her hand, she was choking the dog by its collar.

Yup. A simple act of leashing her dog would have saved this stupid woman a lot of hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This creepy birder is not a VICTIM just stop.
He is the aggressor both then and later. There was clearly a longer conversation where he also tells her to go to another part of the park. He wanted that park to himself and he threatened a woman to get it. Faced with that guy, I would have been intimidated. Too bad SHE didn’t think to whip out HER phone.

You need to just stop. He didn't "want the park to himself," he wanted it for the birds he was trying to protect. There was indeed another section of the park where she could have had her dog unleashed. Stop with the lies and insinuations already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I am very liberal and I think they were both wrong but he clearly set up this situation and was looking to provoke her. He did and was successfully in his plan to ruin her life. Congrats to him. Instead of walking away and finding another spot, he engaged her and provoked her until she snapped. They were in an isolated area and she was clearly scared of him. She was wrong in her racist statements but she was right to call the police and ask him to stop recording her. Where is the rest of the video of the interactions before and after.... he only shared a small part.

He was trying to take her dog. He was clear he called over the dog AND offered the dog treats so she was trying to prevent him from taking the dog. She was not intentionally choking him. Would you let your dog or child go to a stranger provoking and recording you? Of course not.

I agree with you, but I'm a conservative. Well, I'm actually a moderate who these days considers myself a conservative because the left went so far. But it does seem like you're on the wrong side

I think she was more wrong than he was, though, both for the dog off leash and the specific references to his race in her threats, even though he clearly had a chip on his shoulder. Neither of them were behaving like well adjusted people.

(AND the animal abuse of course!)

That was not animal abuse. She was trying to keep the dog away from him and keep him with her.

The simpler option would have been to clip the leash on the dog then make her phone call. But that would have meant he won the argument to leash the dog. Rather than take the leash that was in her hand, she was choking the dog by its collar.

Exactly. I'm a dog owner and that's what I would have done. There is no excuse for pulling a dog around by the neck like that. Just clip on the damn leash!

I would have also walked or broken into a run if I was feeling physically threatened. I wouldn't have hung around to call the police.

As you say, she didn't want the birder to win the argument. She was going to "show" him by literally NOT leashing her dog (even if it meant pulling him around by the neck in a painful manner).

[Anonymous]

I’m sympathetic to the fact he said “you aren’t going to like what I do then”. He admitted this. That’s a scary thing to say to a woman alone in a park. At that very moment, I can understand how you’d feel fear.

But she very clearly lost the possibility of having a high ground there when she ran towards him - you don’t do that if you are genuinely afraid of someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic to the fact he said “you aren’t going to like what I do then”. He admitted this. That’s a scary thing to say to a woman alone in a park. At that very moment, I can understand how you’d feel fear.

But she very clearly lost the possibility of having a high ground there when she ran towards him - you don’t do that if you are genuinely afraid of someone.

She said something about "you don't like it" first, so he may just have been responding to that.

Agree, though, that you don't run towards somebody, and get in their 6' space when they're telling you not to, if you're genuinely afraid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What she should have done according to posters is said to herself, “OMG this guy wants me to leave the park, and he’s threatening me and my dog, so I should get out of here ASAP because he says so. Or else “
#womanisthevictim

That's several steps later after she caused all the problems.

She was letting her dog run through the bird habitat. He asks her politely to please leash her dog (you know, with the leash she has in her hand). He even points to the sign she is near that says that it is required by law. She instead insists that he needs to run. He points out that there is another section of the park just a short walk away where dogs are allowed to roam unleashed. She again refuses saying that "it's too dangerous". She knows there's a law. She's been asked to follow the law. She's been given two alternatives (put the leash on or go to the other part of the park where leashes are not required), but she insists that she and the dog are too important to follow the law.

And worse, she decided that if this lower life form was going to question her, she was going to punish him by threatening him with having the police come. She knows that if she plays the race card, that regardless of the situation, the police will take her side, after all, it's a black man accused of threatening and attacking a white woman and she knows how that will play out. If he's lucky, he just be beaten and handcuffed. If he's not careful, he'll end up like Freddie Gray or George Floyd or the dozens of other black men accused of a crime. She even blatantly tells him that this is what's in store for him if he doesn't back down and leave her alone and let her break the law and let her dog run through the bird habitat. Without the video, she would have won, too. But fortunately, he pulled out his phone and showed the world just what a POS she really is. She knows that without evidence that she will win, which his why when he starts recording her, she tells him to stop and even tries to assault him by knocking the phone out of his hand. If he hadn't shouted to stay away from him, she probably would have hit him. It looks that way from the video.

She was not a victim in any way, shape or form. She is and was the abuser. Note that she made an unequivocal apology the next day without any excuses and without trying to blame him like the bigots on this thread have done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.

Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

Omfg. He did nothing wrong. He did not “bait” her.

Just.stop. You sound ridiculous (and, yes, racist) trying to attribute ANY of the blame to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, can we finally agree this woman is crazy? Have you read the latest news about how she stalked a white male colleague, made aggressive threats, filed multiple police reports and ultimately filed a lawsuit against him?

Remember several pages ago when multiple posters said she wasn’t crazy—just racist?

Remember all the posts saying she would never disrespect a white man? Remember the posts that claimed she was an angel at work and her colleagues would defend her?

I told you she was an aggressive lunatic!

And, she is also racist.

Has everyone read the latest news? She went bunny boiling nutso and tried to destroy her white colleague’s life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.




Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

Yes. This thread would be a lot shorter if there weren't so many people trying to blame the black victim for baiting and setting up the white racist to victimize him.

It is so disheartening the lengths that people will go, to shift the blame to victims.

The woman caused the entire problem by first not leashing her dog in a protected bird habitat and second, when asked politely, refusing and arguing about being called out for being an a$$hole. Everything after that was a direct cause of her actions. She was given a second chance to either put the leash on or leave, but she had to argue that she had a right to break the law.Sorry, but she was the instigator and 100% to blame for everything that happened after that. PERIOD.

HE is the instigator throughout. Leave or else.

No, he isn’t. Not at all, you nasty racist twot.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread is 87 pages long and is being dominated by people who are offended that a white woman got in trouble for a taped interaction with a black man during which she called the cops on the black man, but there are only 51 pages on the "I can't breathe" thread about George Floyd, a black man who was actually killed by a cop.

The Amy Cooper incident has really triggered the non-liberals on this thread. It truly is fascinating. The whole taped interaction has been dissected to death on this thread with the right-wingers heavily invested in denying that Amy was using any white privilege and stating or implying that the black birdwatcher was the problem.

Even the poor dog, that was so clearly mistreated that it was RECLAIMED by the rescue she got him from, apparently was "uncomfortable" and "only choking for 3-4 seconds" according to conservatives. Fox News has rewired your brains or something. I can't think of another explanation.

I had the same thought.

White woman gets in trouble for being a racist - 87 pages.

Black man DIES - 51 pages.

2/3 of this post are people trying to say he has a part to play in the situation. If people (person?) would just admit he was wrong to bait her, this would be over and done with.

There is no doubt who is in the wrong on the other post.

Yes. This thread would be a lot shorter if there weren't so many people trying to blame the black victim for baiting and setting up the white racist to victimize him.

It is so disheartening the lengths that people will go, to shift the blame to victims.

The woman caused the entire problem by first not leashing her dog in a protected bird habitat and second, when asked politely, refusing and arguing about being called out for being an a$$hole. Everything after that was a direct cause of her actions. She was given a second chance to either put the leash on or leave, but she had to argue that she had a right to break the law.Sorry, but she was the instigator and 100% to blame for everything that happened after that. PERIOD.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This creepy birder is not a VICTIM just stop.
He is the aggressor both then and later. There was clearly a longer conversation where he also tells her to go to another part of the park. He wanted that park to himself and he threatened a woman to get it. Faced with that guy, I would have been intimidated. Too bad SHE didn’t think to whip out HER phone.

You are everything wrong with our country, nasty racist trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, can we finally agree this woman is crazy? Have you read the latest news about how she stalked a white male colleague, made aggressive threats, filed multiple police reports and ultimately filed a lawsuit against him?

Remember several pages ago when multiple posters said she wasn’t crazy—just racist?

Remember all the posts saying she would never disrespect a white man? Remember the posts that claimed she was an angel at work and her colleagues would defend her?

I told you she was an aggressive lunatic!

And, she is also racist.

Has everyone read the latest news? She went bunny boiling nutso and tried to destroy her white colleague’s life.

Do you have a link? She strikes me like uber-liberal city feminist.