Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

I don't think saying the ballot language was unclear is a substantive argument. I am not young and I've voted on many many ballot initiatives in many elections. They are a sentence or two and always have to simplify a complex issue. Most voters that bother to vote on ballot initiatives know the what and why of their vote before they even see the ballot.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Hm. Perhaps if Republicans spent less time banning books and more time reading them, they could acquire greater fluency with the language.

You are an idiot.

But one who didn’t struggle with the ballot language. Probably because my parents didn’t think reading Nobel laureates was damaging.

You don't even know what the ballot said. You just voted yes, because the commercials told you to vote yes.

Commercials? Are those what people too old for the “skip ad” button use to get their information?

Look, if Republicans want to claim the wording was above their reading level, they should have considered asking Youngkin not to put book banners in his “commercials”. Go read some Toni Morrison it will do you good.

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Who even sees commercials these days?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have not put forth a single substantive argument. You called me a bratty teenager (hey look, there's that projection again!!) and claimed that "adults" are saying it is going to be "obviously overturned." Is that what passes as a substantive argument among MAGAs these days? Grow up.

+1. This outcome was not surprising. At all for anyone paying attention. The voter level of disapproval for the current governance of this country is extremely high. election after election are showing the voters trying to do something about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Looking at how the votes came in, it seems like it was pretty clear. The Democratic areas voted to pass the redistricting and the Republican areas voted did not pass the redistricting initiative.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

Trump admitted this in his Truth Social post about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

You seem a little preoccupied with me. I'm not the issue. I understand all the issues. I'm telling you where this debate is going, and where the big legal vulnerability here is. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. This is simply not going to fly with the courts.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

You seem a little preoccupied with me. I'm not the issue. I understand all the issues. I'm telling you where this debate is going, and where the big legal vulnerability here is. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. This is simply not going to fly with the courts.

If it was so unclear, why were the voting patterns across the state so predictable?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

Sure if you stopped reading at “restore fairness” and didn’t finish the sentence “to upcoming elections” then yes I understand why you were confused. Again, you can do a lot of self-improvement before you need to go back to the polls— I repeat my suggestion to read Toni Morrison but if reading a sentence in full is the problem, maybe something a little easier…

You seem a little preoccupied with me. I'm not the issue. I understand all the issues. I'm telling you where this debate is going, and where the big legal vulnerability here is. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it is real. This is simply not going to fly with the courts.

If it was so unclear, why were the voting patterns across the state so predictable?

Because they carpet bombed Democratic areas with ads saying "vote yes if you think Trump is the worst person in the world" and they carpet bombed Republican areas with ads saying "vote no if you're not a leftist radical who hates America"

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Weird because you sound like what politicos euphemistically refer to a "low-information voter."

Every Republican accusation is a confession. I hope you escape from your echo chamber someday.

You sound very Trump-y, the way you ignore substantive arguments and just call people names and repeat moronic bumper sticker slogans you read somewhere.

You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes a “substantive” argument.

Ok, well, there's going to be a big court fight about this, and that's the legal argument they're going to use to kill this thing. They're going to say the language used was slanted and deceptive ("Restore fairness"? What does that even mean? And who exactly opposes that?). And then they're going to point to the long history of courts saying you can't use misleading descriptions of proposals.

You're getting closer to a substantive argument, but you're still a ways off. Anyway, you may want to read the opinion of SCOVA on their previous rebuke of the Tazewell District Court's ruling that the ballot initiative language was misleading:

Moreover, the injunction is baseless on the merits. The circuit court’s ruling rests on a series of atextual interpretations of Article XII and related statutes—including the conclusion that no constitutionally valid intervening general election occurred, that early voting must begin more than ninety days after legislative passage, and that the legislatively prescribed ballot language violates the Submission Clause. None of those theories is grounded in constitutional text.
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Finally, the court held that the legislatively prescribed ballot language violates the Submission Clause because the phrase “restore fairness” is purportedly misleading. R. 69. Article XII requires that a proposed amendment be submitted to the electorate; it does not constitutionalize a particular phrasing standard or authorize pre-election invalidation absent a clear textual violation.

Like I said, Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail here. You're grasping at straws here.

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Remember, the GOP requested that maps be posted. They refused. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Wow. What a condescending, arrogant post.

I’m bookmarking this to come back after the arguments on Monday at SCOVA. So many constitutional issues with this process. I don’t see how the Supreme Court can’t overturn this vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember, the GOP requested that maps be posted. They refused. Why?

I'm finding no references to this. Link?

Or are you referring to the Tazewell District Court's ruling that proponents violated the timing requirement for voting on the ballot initiative that the SCOVA decisively rebuked?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the Republican whining is a bit…unseemly? I can’t help but thinking about the little pipsqeak on the playground who bullies the big kid for years, then cries bloody murder when the big kid punches him back once and knocks him flat on his back.

AOC said it best when she said, “Wah wah wah.” I can’t help but see children every time I see Republican white men whining about injustice.

This is going to result in Democrats winning 10 of Virginia's 11 House districts. Reminder: Virginia is purple state. That's completely ridiculous. Why don't you just ban Republicans from voting altogether?

If 48.5% of Virginians vote repuplican but maps reduce them to just 1 of 11 seats (9.1%), then nearly half the state has been compressed into only 9% representation.

That means they lost about 81% of their political voice when seats are allocated.

Maybe if Republicans has conducted themselves differently in the past few years, more than 48.5% would have voted against this measure.

+1. The voters have spoken. That is how we are supposed to settle things here.

Is that a joke? People didn't even understand what they were voting for. It was just "if you hate Trump vote this way." That's what ballot initiatives always do. They do something sleazy and then they sell it to the public by saying "vote yes if you love puppies."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/20/nx-s1-5790809/virginia-redistricting-election-trump-gerrymandering

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2026/04/21/virginia-redistricting-election-voter-confusion

https://wtop.com/virginia/2026/04/why-some-virginia-voters-find-redistricting-ballot-question-confusing/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/virginia-congressional-map-ballot-measure-b12f9b2a

Are you saying Republicans were too stupid to understand the language on the initiative? Hilarious self-own.

You sound like a bratty teenager. Maybe you should listen to the adults who say this is obviously going to be struck down by the courts because the language used on the ballot was plainly deceptive. If there's one thing you absolutely cannot do with these things, it's use misleading language on the ballot. You have to be extremely clear about what is being proposed.

Bub, I'm going to clue you in to something, because clearly nobody else in your life is. It's obvious from your posts that you get your news from Fox News, Drudge, Newsmax, and the Washington Times. You are being hoodwinked. Taken for a fool. Deluded because you lack the sophistication to spot obvious distortions, half-truths, or outright lies.

Those of us living in the real world - consuming news from a wide variety of sources, produced by actual journalists and not partisan hacks pretending to be - know that Republicans are incredibly unlikely to prevail.

Wow. What a condescending, arrogant post.

I’m bookmarking this to come back after the arguments on Monday at SCOVA. So many constitutional issues with this process. I don’t see how the Supreme Court can’t overturn this vote.

Yes, that is because your posts demonstrate over and over again that 1) you are uninformed on the issues and 2) you are blinded by partisan rage.