FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:Its incredibly cynical and disappointing for FCPS to be using the map commentary to justify/hide behind.

Many marginalized groups of people are not savvy enough or aware enough or know enough English to use the map comment tool. FCPS is saying "look, no one from this Bull Run low income apartment building full of immigrants minds being moved, we only got a few comments but Walney Oaks really does not want to move--we are just responding to people's preferences!!". Its gross and disingenous.

Maybe they don’t care to be moved. I mean, they could just be content to live in America and have free income from our government and free school for their kids.

Nice attitude, Seema.

Of course. Anytime.

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Aren't Seema and her husband both immigrants from India?

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The tool now has a Final Scenario, but nothing is showing up for me when I click on the map. Just me, or anyone else seeing an actual map?

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Anonymous wrote:The tool now has a Final Scenario, but nothing is showing up for me when I click on the map. Just me, or anyone else seeing an actual map?

I see it but I thought that wasn't going to be posted until july.

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They just closed comments. If they are actually considering comments, they wouldn't have a final scenario ready anytime soon.

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Anonymous wrote:The tool now has a Final Scenario, but nothing is showing up for me when I click on the map. Just me, or anyone else seeing an actual map?

I see it but I thought that wasn't going to be posted until july.

They're releasing one more prior to next week's community meeting on it. July is the actual SB vote.

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Well, I'm counting on someone to refresh that until the map shows up, and then tell us what immediately gets changed in real time based on Phone Calls from VIPs.

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Anonymous wrote:The tool now has a Final Scenario, but nothing is showing up for me when I click on the map. Just me, or anyone else seeing an actual map?

I see it but I thought that wasn't going to be posted until july.

They're releasing one more prior to next week's community meeting on it. July is the actual SB vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm counting on someone to refresh that until the map shows up, and then tell us what immediately gets changed in real time based on Phone Calls from VIPs.

I would die of laughter if they moved Walney Oaks again.

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Anonymous wrote:I am really interested in finding out if Seema Dixit dictated to the consultants exactly which area to move out of Centreville HS.

I agree that there is no way they would create 1) a new island, 2) in a location closer to CVHS then Westfield that 3) is all low income/apartments. Someone told them to do this. Who?

That new apartment building island is 2 miles from Centreville and 4.5 miles from Westfield FWIW. Other areas of Bull Run that were not moved are farther from CVHS.

This interference in what should be a logical process is really irritating. Westfield loses it's Floris/Coates/McNair section which bisected the boundary by a major manmade slice of territory, Dulles International Airport and major swatches of commercial...

Never moved Floris Avion Parkway which is closer to Loudoun than some major Floris commercial. And what is in that? Stuff like Eurostone. Many go to the Chantilly area for home improvement projects. 3900 Stonecroft Boulevard, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States

Westfield borders Loudoun and Prince William counties. It's core capacity was about 2500 then it got a classroom only addition - use 50% of it for academies. So load the site to 2500. Pull more out of Chantilly and Centreville. Borders Prince William and over capacity Robinson and Fairfax.

What is this? HOA and don't move us lobbying groups. If you don't move areas from Chantilly [modular] surrounded by other FCPS attendance areas and Centreville, exactly what will utilize Westfield?

Chantilly is still overloaded and compare this situation to the overloaded Mclean. Some drained to Langley but the Timberlane tail refused to get on a bus for Falls Church. Willing to go to Marshall so in the supreme BS domino from Marshall to Madison /Oakton to South Lakes plus Langley 2 powerful HOAs into South Lakes. Meren seems to forget South Lakes borders Madison and Langley.

Meren is never going to suggest people move from Madison or Langley because she knows those families will fight any move and she doesn't have the will to fight that. She abstained from the vote to purchase the school. She didn't have the guts to vote no, she just didn't vote. Her response to the entire Skyview process is to have meetings where she says she doesn't have the answers, even though many of the questions were asked had answers that where provided in the many meetings and zoom meetings surrounding Skyview. Or to post FB messages and videos that were just wrong. Now, at the last minute, she sent out an email to parents who contacted her saying that she thinks the rezoning needs to be slowed down.

Meren is never going to take a solid position on the subject because her doing so will upset someone in her region. Honestly, I would be more impressed if she had voted no and regularly questioned some of the choices that were being made regarding Skyview instead of the way she has handled the situation. At least show us the courage of your convictions and champion what you think is right. Instead she waits to the last minute and sends out a weak email to some people while ignorning the majority of voices on her various posts saying they are happy to move.

Fox Mill parent here.

I will probably not vote for her next time.

Core Reston South Lakes fans vote for her? We don't have primaries so who runs is a pay for play for voters. This newest boundary tool has changes from Reid's Thru/BRAC. Scroll across to non Skyview study areas. Meren's Flint Hill Islnd to Madison, Westbriar Island. Oakton elementary strip.

Move east on the scroll to Sandburg Middle School. 2 labeled Sandburg and one is actuaaly Whitman. Address is 2500 Parkers Lane, Alexandria, Virginia 22306, with Whitman walkers surviving on getting a bus to Sandburg. Therefore the con goes west and I assume Franklin walkers will get a Carson bus. This is where split feeders are appropriate. Note Marshall and Westgate walkers are NOT riding a bus elsewhere.

Yes on another post people asked /doubted if the Avion Parkway and area with commercial generated students. Answer is yes and they showed up on the Coates boundary study SPAs.

Have you been reading this thread or even Meren's FB page? Many of the Franklin walkers have asked to be moved to Carson so that they can attend HS at Skyview with their Oak Hill ES classmates. They would prefer the 1.5 mile bus ride to Carson and attending Skyview with their Oah Hill ES classmates to walking to Franklin and attending Chantilly as a small group of kids. This change has been championed by most of the Franklin walkers.

That makes perfect sense. There's no benefit to fetishizing walking to school if it comes at the expense of knowing substantially more kids when you start MS or HS.

I would sacrifice walking in a heartbeat if it meant staying with my friends if I were in my child’s position.

I’d want to stay at Chantilly over Skyview. Who cares what a bunch of middle schoolers want to do?!

As a FMES parent, I disagree with you. Being one of a small handful of kids moving to a HS when most of the other kids are coming from a different MS is challenging. It is hard to break into different groups. And that is with the entire ES moving and small number of kids from other ES. The proposed Oak Hill split is even worse, it is only the kids who walk to Franklin that would stay at Franklin and go to Chantilly. They won't be moving with any of their near by neighbors or ES classmates.

But I understand different people have different opinions.

Yeah, that's a good point on Oak Hill. I think if they split it, they will end up sending the south side of that split to Lees Corner within 5 years, further isolating kids. At least the north side is next to Chantilly Highlands; the south is isolated. That whole section is more connected north/south than east/west. Simple enough tweak to keep it together, not because it's an HOA, but because it was built with community cohesion in mind.

Except for going to different swimming pools in the summer, the Franklin Farm and Chantilly Highlands kids (Oak Hill Elementary) are pretty cohesive. Scout troops, school activities, friendships, etc. We never felt the kids south of Franklin Farm Rd were "isolated."

Meaning: Franklin Farm HOA homes south of Franklin Farm Rd. They're cut off from both the rest of their HOA north of Franklin Farm Rd. and into the next HOA, Chantilly Highlands.

How exactly are they "cut off"? Those kids can easily cross the road to get to the other side. I see them doing it ALL. THE. TIME.

The post is talking about the kids split between two Middle/High schools in scenario 2 at Franklin Farm Rd. Not physical distance. ...Yes...they can walk across the street, hopefully to hang out with friends going to the same schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I am really interested in finding out if Seema Dixit dictated to the consultants exactly which area to move out of Centreville HS.

I agree that there is no way they would create 1) a new island, 2) in a location closer to CVHS then Westfield that 3) is all low income/apartments. Someone told them to do this. Who?

That new apartment building island is 2 miles from Centreville and 4.5 miles from Westfield FWIW. Other areas of Bull Run that were not moved are farther from CVHS.

This interference in what should be a logical process is really irritating. Westfield loses it's Floris/Coates/McNair section which bisected the boundary by a major manmade slice of territory, Dulles International Airport and major swatches of commercial...

Never moved Floris Avion Parkway which is closer to Loudoun than some major Floris commercial. And what is in that? Stuff like Eurostone. Many go to the Chantilly area for home improvement projects. 3900 Stonecroft Boulevard, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States

Westfield borders Loudoun and Prince William counties. It's core capacity was about 2500 then it got a classroom only addition - use 50% of it for academies. So load the site to 2500. Pull more out of Chantilly and Centreville. Borders Prince William and over capacity Robinson and Fairfax.

What is this? HOA and don't move us lobbying groups. If you don't move areas from Chantilly [modular] surrounded by other FCPS attendance areas and Centreville, exactly what will utilize Westfield?

Chantilly is still overloaded and compare this situation to the overloaded Mclean. Some drained to Langley but the Timberlane tail refused to get on a bus for Falls Church. Willing to go to Marshall so in the supreme BS domino from Marshall to Madison /Oakton to South Lakes plus Langley 2 powerful HOAs into South Lakes. Meren seems to forget South Lakes borders Madison and Langley.

Meren is never going to suggest people move from Madison or Langley because she knows those families will fight any move and she doesn't have the will to fight that. She abstained from the vote to purchase the school. She didn't have the guts to vote no, she just didn't vote. Her response to the entire Skyview process is to have meetings where she says she doesn't have the answers, even though many of the questions were asked had answers that where provided in the many meetings and zoom meetings surrounding Skyview. Or to post FB messages and videos that were just wrong. Now, at the last minute, she sent out an email to parents who contacted her saying that she thinks the rezoning needs to be slowed down.

Meren is never going to take a solid position on the subject because her doing so will upset someone in her region. Honestly, I would be more impressed if she had voted no and regularly questioned some of the choices that were being made regarding Skyview instead of the way she has handled the situation. At least show us the courage of your convictions and champion what you think is right. Instead she waits to the last minute and sends out a weak email to some people while ignorning the majority of voices on her various posts saying they are happy to move.

Fox Mill parent here.

I will probably not vote for her next time.

Core Reston South Lakes fans vote for her? We don't have primaries so who runs is a pay for play for voters. This newest boundary tool has changes from Reid's Thru/BRAC. Scroll across to non Skyview study areas. Meren's Flint Hill Islnd to Madison, Westbriar Island. Oakton elementary strip.

Move east on the scroll to Sandburg Middle School. 2 labeled Sandburg and one is actuaaly Whitman. Address is 2500 Parkers Lane, Alexandria, Virginia 22306, with Whitman walkers surviving on getting a bus to Sandburg. Therefore the con goes west and I assume Franklin walkers will get a Carson bus. This is where split feeders are appropriate. Note Marshall and Westgate walkers are NOT riding a bus elsewhere.

Yes on another post people asked /doubted if the Avion Parkway and area with commercial generated students. Answer is yes and they showed up on the Coates boundary study SPAs.

Have you been reading this thread or even Meren's FB page? Many of the Franklin walkers have asked to be moved to Carson so that they can attend HS at Skyview with their Oak Hill ES classmates. They would prefer the 1.5 mile bus ride to Carson and attending Skyview with their Oah Hill ES classmates to walking to Franklin and attending Chantilly as a small group of kids. This change has been championed by most of the Franklin walkers.

That makes perfect sense. There's no benefit to fetishizing walking to school if it comes at the expense of knowing substantially more kids when you start MS or HS.

I would sacrifice walking in a heartbeat if it meant staying with my friends if I were in my child’s position.

I’d want to stay at Chantilly over Skyview. Who cares what a bunch of middle schoolers want to do?!

As a FMES parent, I disagree with you. Being one of a small handful of kids moving to a HS when most of the other kids are coming from a different MS is challenging. It is hard to break into different groups. And that is with the entire ES moving and small number of kids from other ES. The proposed Oak Hill split is even worse, it is only the kids who walk to Franklin that would stay at Franklin and go to Chantilly. They won't be moving with any of their near by neighbors or ES classmates.

But I understand different people have different opinions.

Yeah, that's a good point on Oak Hill. I think if they split it, they will end up sending the south side of that split to Lees Corner within 5 years, further isolating kids. At least the north side is next to Chantilly Highlands; the south is isolated. That whole section is more connected north/south than east/west. Simple enough tweak to keep it together, not because it's an HOA, but because it was built with community cohesion in mind.

Except for going to different swimming pools in the summer, the Franklin Farm and Chantilly Highlands kids (Oak Hill Elementary) are pretty cohesive. Scout troops, school activities, friendships, etc. We never felt the kids south of Franklin Farm Rd were "isolated."

Meaning: Franklin Farm HOA homes south of Franklin Farm Rd. They're cut off from both the rest of their HOA north of Franklin Farm Rd. and into the next HOA, Chantilly Highlands.

How exactly are they "cut off"? Those kids can easily cross the road to get to the other side. I see them doing it ALL. THE. TIME.

The post is talking about the kids split between two Middle/High schools in scenario 2 at Franklin Farm Rd. Not physical distance. ...Yes...they can walk across the street, hopefully to hang out with friends going to the same schools.

this area has over 200 houses. That's a huge neighborhood. They aren't socially "cut off" from anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:They just closed comments. If they are actually considering comments, they wouldn't have a final scenario ready anytime soon.

They are NOT actually considering comments. They are considering the wheeling and dealing and community meetings that have happened over the past few weeks. I know, for a fact, that the Oakton families have been scheduling meetings with school board members and Gatehouse administrators.

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Anonymous wrote:They just closed comments. If they are actually considering comments, they wouldn't have a final scenario ready anytime soon.

They are NOT actually considering comments. They are considering the wheeling and dealing and community meetings that have happened over the past few weeks. I know, for a fact, that the Oakton families have been scheduling meetings with school board members and Gatehouse administrators.

Let me guess, they are NOT meeting with the Bull Run apartment families or Chantilly Mews families.

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Anonymous wrote:They just closed comments. If they are actually considering comments, they wouldn't have a final scenario ready anytime soon.

They are NOT actually considering comments. They are considering the wheeling and dealing and community meetings that have happened over the past few weeks. I know, for a fact, that the Oakton families have been scheduling meetings with school board members and Gatehouse administrators.

Here we go again...

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From Kyle McDaniel (School Board Member)-

Skyview High School Update

At last night’s School Board meeting, I seconded the motion to approve the contract for architectural and design services for Skyview High School. This is an important step forward as we continue planning for the future of the school community.

The third boundary scenario proposal is expected to be released by Monday. Please continue sharing your input as this process moves forward. I am confident that the School Board will make a thoughtful decision that best serves students, families, and the broader community.

The final community meeting will be held on Tuesday, June 16, from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at Skyview High School and via Zoom. You can register for in-person attendance here. You can register for the Zoom meeting here.