Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a basic question I haven't seen answered, but I may have. missed it in all these pages.

Did JB REJECT her request for an intimacy coordinator? Did she ask for one from the beginning? if not, why not?

She had a lot of power on this movie.

There was always an IC attached to the movie. Lively does not allege that there wasn't. It is standard for a movie to engage an IC to choreograph and ensure professionalism for intimate scenes.

What Lively does allege is that the IC was not always present on the set for intimate scenes, and that Baldoni sometimes changed scenes last minute to make them more intimate without warning Lively or engaging the IC.

She's saying that there was no way for her to ensure there was an IC on set for a scene with intimate content if she didn't know there would be intimate content until the day of the shoot or in the middle of the scene.

Yes, Lively had power on the set, but if Lively had shut down production in order to get an IC on set for those scenes, it would have cost the production thousands of dollars and delayed production. Even an actor who has a lot of power in general might feel very pressured to move forward with a scene where they aren't comfortable rather than shut down production until the IC can be brought it.

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Anonymous wrote:Pg 62: the heath situation

https://thelawsuitinfo.com/downloads/amended-complaint.pdf

Page 62 talks about editing not about heath barging into her trailer topless

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

SEXISM ALERT SEXISM ALERT

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Anonymous wrote:I have a basic question I haven't seen answered, but I may have. missed it in all these pages.

Did JB REJECT her request for an intimacy coordinator? Did she ask for one from the beginning? if not, why not?

She had a lot of power on this movie.

He took initiative to hire and meet with intimacy coordinator. He asked Blake to meet with her. Blake said she was comfortable and declined meeting. It’s all documented.

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Well looks like Blake lied about quite a bit here! I'm not sure who's going to want to work with her since everyone needs to walk on egg shells and profusely apologize 24/7. Seems like she's doing herself in right now with this lawsuit.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a film production, it’s fantasy, it’s make believe. Blake wasn’t a an actual patient in a doctor’s office, she wasn’t working as a surgeon amongst all male colleagues…she was pretending to give birth. It’s all fake. Keep this in mind, she wasn’t as vulnerable as she would like us to believe.

Right. People keep acting like this set is just like their workplace and forget that these people are acting. Like in the dance scene, her supporters will claim they know they’re acting yet they’re still reacting to it as if it’s a real life situation where Justin is caressing her out of nowhere. There is no reasoning with these people.

Perhaps Blake shouldn’t be an actor. She’d be absolutely shocked at real life interactions, she’d be absolutely traumatized.

I doubt she'll work again unless she can get her husband to cast her, that mich is clear. She has no talent and sounds like a nightmare to work with regardless of the outcome of this legal case. I actually think why she's so hung up on her hair and booze lines, she doesn't have much to fall back on and needs to pivot. Her reputation too beyond, "pretty, affable blonde lady."

MISOGYNY ALERT!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

SEXISM ALERT SEXISM ALERT

How do? The fact you can’t elaborate demonstrates that it’s not. If a person is forced to have sex, it’s rape. If a person agreed to have sex, but inside their head they feel pressured but still consent, that’s not rape.

Blake lively is a seasoned actress and an adult woman. She took over the entire wardrobe on this movie. If she did not want to appear a certain way during the birthing scene it was her responsibility to decline to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

Wow this might be one of the worst things I've seen posted on here.

Lively did not agree "for the entire world" to see her naked. Actors have nudity riders that dictate exactly how they may be filmed when fully or partially nude, and also how that footage can be treated. This is why even though there are lots of movies in which actors have appeared nude to some degree, you've never seen all the footage that didn't make it into the final version of the movie. This is a very heavily regulated part of filmmaking. Agreeing to do a movie where there might be some movie does not mean you can't complain when it's more than you agreed to or the footage of the actor who is nude or partially nude is mishandled.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a basic question I haven't seen answered, but I may have. missed it in all these pages.

Did JB REJECT her request for an intimacy coordinator? Did she ask for one from the beginning? if not, why not?

She had a lot of power on this movie.

There was always an IC attached to the movie. Lively does not allege that there wasn't. It is standard for a movie to engage an IC to choreograph and ensure professionalism for intimate scenes.

What Lively does allege is that the IC was not always present on the set for intimate scenes, and that Baldoni sometimes changed scenes last minute to make them more intimate without warning Lively or engaging the IC.

She's saying that there was no way for her to ensure there was an IC on set for a scene with intimate content if she didn't know there would be intimate content until the day of the shoot or in the middle of the scene.

Yes, Lively had power on the set, but if Lively had shut down production in order to get an IC on set for those scenes, it would have cost the production thousands of dollars and delayed production. Even an actor who has a lot of power in general might feel very pressured to move forward with a scene where they aren't comfortable rather than shut down production until the IC can be brought it.

Lively went almost $400,000 over budget on wardrobe for this movie massively blowing the budget. I doubt very much not costing production money was on her radar.

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Justin may have blurred boundaries and made mistakes, but I keep going back to the big picture: nothing he did should be career ruining.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

SEXISM ALERT SEXISM ALERT

How do? The fact you can’t elaborate demonstrates that it’s not. If a person is forced to have sex, it’s rape. If a person agreed to have sex, but inside their head they feel pressured but still consent, that’s not rape.

Blake lively is a seasoned actress and an adult woman. She took over the entire wardrobe on this movie. If she did not want to appear a certain way during the birthing scene it was her responsibility to decline to do so.

Do I think occasionally the scenario you proposed happens? Sure of course. But I think it is rare but it is a common justification to deny an assaulted woman justice and to tarnish her reputation and it is a reason women don't come forward because they are so often smeared with this accusation if they do.

So to bring it up in this context which isn't even a r*pe to cast doubt on her is just using a trope as old as time to discredit her is very sexist IMO. It is the dog whistle of misogyny.

She didn't want to be nude, they pressured her into it at the last minute. She did it because an actress being responsible for shutting down production and costing the film millions is a very difficult situation. Saying 'well she eventually said yes' is everything that is wrong with consent culture.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

Wow this might be one of the worst things I've seen posted on here.

Lively did not agree "for the entire world" to see her naked. Actors have nudity riders that dictate exactly how they may be filmed when fully or partially nude, and also how that footage can be treated. This is why even though there are lots of movies in which actors have appeared nude to some degree, you've never seen all the footage that didn't make it into the final version of the movie. This is a very heavily regulated part of filmmaking. Agreeing to do a movie where there might be some movie does not mean you can't complain when it's more than you agreed to or the footage of the actor who is nude or partially nude is mishandled.

Blake declined the IC correct?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the issue with the actor playing the obgyn. There's no allegation he behaved inappropriately, is there? And he's not some random Joe Schmoe off the street but rather a seasoned professional actor? Who cares if he and Justin Baldoni knew each other? He's an actor. SOMEBODY was going to be down there acting out the birth scene.

Being told that someone is bringing in their friend to film with you while half nude with a day's notice is something that would bother me. Somebody was going to be down there, but professionalism means distance, and the friend of the guy you are feeling harassed by doesn't infer distance.

He's a professional actor, stop acting like this is some rando pulled from the street.

I agree with PP. Of course people cast friends in small roles, that's common. But it's weird that when Baldoni was looking for a role to give his pal, in a movie filled with small parts in restaurants and bars and shops, he decided to give him the role of "doctor who squats between Lily's legs." That would be kind of a sensitive role. I wouldn't give it to a close friend, it's weird.

OK but then what happened? Blake felt whatever she felt when she was introduced to Justin's actor friend, and then what? The guy showed up to work and behaved professionally? I mean sure, maybe in the privacy of his own mind he was just tickled pink at the prospect of being close to Blake Lively in her underwear, but I have seen no allegations that he behaved at all improperly.

Read the complaint. Lively is alleging that the birth scene was handled unprofessionally and that there were a *series* of actions by Baldoni, Heath, and Wayfarer that together amount to sexual harassment. You can't treat any of the specific allegations alone -- the idea is that together, the scene was mishandled in a way that was invasive and humiliating for Lively. Here is how it is described in her complaint (I've highlighted key points for people who like to skim/don't want to read long text:

51. On the day of shooting the scene in which Ms. Lively’s character gives birth, Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions.
Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
52. When the birth scene was filmed, the set was chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was not broadcast to all crew on set (and on their personal phones and iPad). Mr. Heath and Mr. Baldoni also failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non-essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co- Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests. Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his “best friend” to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni’s friend for this intimate role, in which the actor’s face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
53. To add insult to injury, Mr. Heath approached Ms. Lively and her assistant on set and started playing a video of a fully nude woman with her legs spread apart. Ms. Lively thought he was showing her pornography and stopped him. Mr. Heath explained that the video was his wife giving birth. Ms. Lively was alarmed and asked Mr. Heath if his wife knew he was sharing the video, to which he replied “She isn’t weird about this stuff,” as if Ms. Lively was weird for not welcoming it. Ms. Lively and her assistant excused themselves, stunned that Mr. Heath had shown them a nude video.

lol. I mean, I suppose this could be problematic if Blake hadn’t already consented for the entire world to watch this. It’s literally being filmed for broadcast to the entire world, with her consent. Also, she’s a big girl. If she didn’t want to be dressed a certain way say no. It’s like a woman agreeing to have sex, then later feeling like they were pressured and calling it rape. That’s not how it works.

Wow this might be one of the worst things I've seen posted on here.

Lively did not agree "for the entire world" to see her naked. Actors have nudity riders that dictate exactly how they may be filmed when fully or partially nude, and also how that footage can be treated. This is why even though there are lots of movies in which actors have appeared nude to some degree, you've never seen all the footage that didn't make it into the final version of the movie. This is a very heavily regulated part of filmmaking. Agreeing to do a movie where there might be some movie does not mean you can't complain when it's more than you agreed to or the footage of the actor who is nude or partially nude is mishandled.

Then you say no. You refuse to do it. Lively took enough control over this film it’s obvious she’s no shrinking violet.

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Anonymous wrote:Justin may have blurred boundaries and made mistakes, but I keep going back to the big picture: nothing he did should be career ruining.

But what she did was worth him trying to ruin her career this summer/fall? Because that happened I am on tiktok and watched it.