FCPS HS Boundary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It isn't about proximity to the high school - its about the demographics.

Hunt Valley brings what Lewis needs.

Lewis has too many FARMS kids so they need to send non-FARMS kids to that school. There are plenty of kids who fit that bill at Orange Hunt, Hunt Valley, West Springfield or Rolling Valley. Whether you can actually get those kids to go to that school without their parents pupil-placing them out is another matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would never vote for a progressive to be on the SB, and I imagine many who will be upset with the changes probably did vote for the current SB, so this is going to be fun to watch.

But McDaniels points are mostly accurate. The other piece here is reality, and that is that the county is getting poorer. It just happened pretty fast that some who moved out of the city centers to FCPS "for the schools" are seeing the potential of the same thing happening: they don't want to send their kids to a high poverty school.

I don't think there is going to be a reversal of this trend, and the boundaries just can't hold anymore. In the last 3 years, the total number of FCPS students grew by 2000. In that same time, the total number of FARMs students grew by 12000. From 31% to 39% in 3 years. 15 years ago, that number was closer to 20%.

May be time to move out of the city.

Honest question: which boundaries “can’t hold” anymore? There are real issues with the accuracy and reliability of their five year projections.

Also, if he’s so right, and we want to minimize travel time, the obvious answer is to disallow pupil placement.

They can’t get enough bus drivers and the transportation stuff is a huge mess. Even now at the end of the school year there’s a lot of bus delays due to prior runs and coverage. If they don’t have enough drivers, it affects kids not being able to go on field trips.

We’re in an area likely to be redistricted, and my kid has not once had a significant bus issue.

Perhaps the solution rather than messing with boundaries is to pay $30/hour instead of $25? Seems like a de minibus fix.

Oh, and also disallowing pupil placements.

Which area do you think is “likely” to be redistricted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn't about proximity to the high school - its about the demographics.

Hunt Valley brings what Lewis needs.

So are you saying decisions should be based proximity to the high school? Western Langley pyramid fervently disagrees.

This was refuted yesterday and you just ignored it, so I will repeat it for you. Langley less than twenty minutes, Herndon high about fifteen. Turns out there’s no easy way to get across 7.

Advocate all you want, but do it honestly, because bus time is not a real reason for that school to be redistricted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would never vote for a progressive to be on the SB, and I imagine many who will be upset with the changes probably did vote for the current SB, so this is going to be fun to watch.

But McDaniels points are mostly accurate. The other piece here is reality, and that is that the county is getting poorer. It just happened pretty fast that some who moved out of the city centers to FCPS "for the schools" are seeing the potential of the same thing happening: they don't want to send their kids to a high poverty school.

I don't think there is going to be a reversal of this trend, and the boundaries just can't hold anymore. In the last 3 years, the total number of FCPS students grew by 2000. In that same time, the total number of FARMs students grew by 12000. From 31% to 39% in 3 years. 15 years ago, that number was closer to 20%.

May be time to move out of the city.

Honest question: which boundaries “can’t hold” anymore? There are real issues with the accuracy and reliability of their five year projections.

Also, if he’s so right, and we want to minimize travel time, the obvious answer is to disallow pupil placement.

They can’t get enough bus drivers and the transportation stuff is a huge mess. Even now at the end of the school year there’s a lot of bus delays due to prior runs and coverage. If they don’t have enough drivers, it affects kids not being able to go on field trips.

We’re in an area likely to be redistricted, and my kid has not once had a significant bus issue.

Perhaps the solution rather than messing with boundaries is to pay $30/hour instead of $25? Seems like a de minibus fix.

Oh, and also disallowing pupil placements.

Which area do you think is “likely” to be redistricted?

WS, and at least parts of Forestville, also parts of McLean (probably the islands), and probably some cascading split feeders across the county to try to balance the numbers. I’m sure I’m missing some others too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids need to either get shifted to Centreville or Herndon. Extend the Herndon boundary south, keep shifting and everything works out. People will be unhappy, but meh. You aren't touching Langley and that's the big "no-no".

We are zoned for Langley. We live close so not worried about rezoning for our family. Ever since we moved here 5 years ago, I have heard about potential rezoning and there have been tiny tweaks.

It sounds like people often want parts of great falls to be rezoned to Herndon. Who do they want to go to Langley in place? Do they want to move some Herndon kids to Langley and move great falls kids to Herndon? That doesn’t make logistical sense.

I can tell you how they'll likely go about this (it doesn't involve moving any Herndon kids to Langley), but please confirm you'd welcome an explanation.

Otherwise, the other Langley poster who tries to police all these threads will probably accuse me of being an advocate for this change when I've just tried to shed light on what they likely have in mind so that others can think more about this and organize.

It's telling that all her venom hasn't discouraged McDaniel, Lady, Frisch, etc one iota.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never vote for a progressive to be on the SB, and I imagine many who will be upset with the changes probably did vote for the current SB, so this is going to be fun to watch.

But McDaniels points are mostly accurate. The other piece here is reality, and that is that the county is getting poorer. It just happened pretty fast that some who moved out of the city centers to FCPS "for the schools" are seeing the potential of the same thing happening: they don't want to send their kids to a high poverty school.

I don't think there is going to be a reversal of this trend, and the boundaries just can't hold anymore. In the last 3 years, the total number of FCPS students grew by 2000. In that same time, the total number of FARMs students grew by 12000. From 31% to 39% in 3 years. 15 years ago, that number was closer to 20%.

May be time to move out of the city.

Honest question: which boundaries “can’t hold” anymore? There are real issues with the accuracy and reliability of their five year projections.

Also, if he’s so right, and we want to minimize travel time, the obvious answer is to disallow pupil placement.

They can’t get enough bus drivers and the transportation stuff is a huge mess. Even now at the end of the school year there’s a lot of bus delays due to prior runs and coverage. If they don’t have enough drivers, it affects kids not being able to go on field trips.

We’re in an area likely to be redistricted, and my kid has not once had a significant bus issue.

Perhaps the solution rather than messing with boundaries is to pay $30/hour instead of $25? Seems like a de minibus fix.

Oh, and also disallowing pupil placements.

Which area do you think is “likely” to be redistricted?

WS, and at least parts of Forestville, also parts of McLean (probably the islands), and probably some cascading split feeders across the county to try to balance the numbers. I’m sure I’m missing some others too.

Also potentially part of Marshall to Madison (the areas in Vienna out towards Wolf Trap). Makes use of empty seats at Madison and turns Marshall into Tysons-Pimmit HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids need to either get shifted to Centreville or Herndon. Extend the Herndon boundary south, keep shifting and everything works out. People will be unhappy, but meh. You aren't touching Langley and that's the big "no-no".

We are zoned for Langley. We live close so not worried about rezoning for our family. Ever since we moved here 5 years ago, I have heard about potential rezoning and there have been tiny tweaks.

It sounds like people often want parts of great falls to be rezoned to Herndon. Who do they want to go to Langley in place? Do they want to move some Herndon kids to Langley and move great falls kids to Herndon? That doesn’t make logistical sense.

I can tell you how they'll likely go about this (it doesn't involve moving any Herndon kids to Langley), but please confirm you'd welcome an explanation.

Otherwise, the other Langley poster who tries to police all these threads will probably accuse me of being an advocate for this change when I've just tried to shed light on what they likely have in mind so that others can think more about this and organize.

It's telling that all her venom hasn't discouraged McDaniel, Lady, Frisch, etc one iota.

What a weird power play tease. All you need to say is that they likely move part of McLean to Langley and then part of Forestville to Herndon. No need to be all cloak and dagger about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never vote for a progressive to be on the SB, and I imagine many who will be upset with the changes probably did vote for the current SB, so this is going to be fun to watch.

But McDaniels points are mostly accurate. The other piece here is reality, and that is that the county is getting poorer. It just happened pretty fast that some who moved out of the city centers to FCPS "for the schools" are seeing the potential of the same thing happening: they don't want to send their kids to a high poverty school.

I don't think there is going to be a reversal of this trend, and the boundaries just can't hold anymore. In the last 3 years, the total number of FCPS students grew by 2000. In that same time, the total number of FARMs students grew by 12000. From 31% to 39% in 3 years. 15 years ago, that number was closer to 20%.

May be time to move out of the city.

Honest question: which boundaries “can’t hold” anymore? There are real issues with the accuracy and reliability of their five year projections.

Also, if he’s so right, and we want to minimize travel time, the obvious answer is to disallow pupil placement.

They can’t get enough bus drivers and the transportation stuff is a huge mess. Even now at the end of the school year there’s a lot of bus delays due to prior runs and coverage. If they don’t have enough drivers, it affects kids not being able to go on field trips.

We’re in an area likely to be redistricted, and my kid has not once had a significant bus issue.

Perhaps the solution rather than messing with boundaries is to pay $30/hour instead of $25? Seems like a de minibus fix.

Oh, and also disallowing pupil placements.

Which area do you think is “likely” to be redistricted?

WS, and at least parts of Forestville, also parts of McLean (probably the islands), and probably some cascading split feeders across the county to try to balance the numbers. I’m sure I’m missing some others too.

Also potentially part of Marshall to Madison (the areas in Vienna out towards Wolf Trap). Makes use of empty seats at Madison and turns Marshall into Tysons-Pimmit HS.

Also worth pointing out that the sheer breadth of redistricting likely precludes any grandfathering to occur. McDaniel said in his newsletter that he might consider saving rising seniors, so anyone in lower grades in affected high schools are probably SOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids need to either get shifted to Centreville or Herndon. Extend the Herndon boundary south, keep shifting and everything works out. People will be unhappy, but meh. You aren't touching Langley and that's the big "no-no".

We are zoned for Langley. We live close so not worried about rezoning for our family. Ever since we moved here 5 years ago, I have heard about potential rezoning and there have been tiny tweaks.

It sounds like people often want parts of great falls to be rezoned to Herndon. Who do they want to go to Langley in place? Do they want to move some Herndon kids to Langley and move great falls kids to Herndon? That doesn’t make logistical sense.

I can tell you how they'll likely go about this (it doesn't involve moving any Herndon kids to Langley), but please confirm you'd welcome an explanation.

Otherwise, the other Langley poster who tries to police all these threads will probably accuse me of being an advocate for this change when I've just tried to shed light on what they likely have in mind so that others can think more about this and organize.

It's telling that all her venom hasn't discouraged McDaniel, Lady, Frisch, etc one iota.

What a weird power play tease. All you need to say is that they likely move part of McLean to Langley and then part of Forestville to Herndon. No need to be all cloak and dagger about it.

Ah, so it’s OK to acknowledge this when it comes out of your mouth, just not others? Got it.

Although if they mess with these boundaries, it could be all of Forestville or everything west of Springvale, not just part of Forestville.

[Anonymous]

Agree with disallowing pupil placement. Not happy with your base school- for any reason- move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree with disallowing pupil placement. Not happy with your base school- for any reason- move.

Please let your board rep know your thoughts too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids need to either get shifted to Centreville or Herndon. Extend the Herndon boundary south, keep shifting and everything works out. People will be unhappy, but meh. You aren't touching Langley and that's the big "no-no".

We are zoned for Langley. We live close so not worried about rezoning for our family. Ever since we moved here 5 years ago, I have heard about potential rezoning and there have been tiny tweaks.

It sounds like people often want parts of great falls to be rezoned to Herndon. Who do they want to go to Langley in place? Do they want to move some Herndon kids to Langley and move great falls kids to Herndon? That doesn’t make logistical sense.

I can tell you how they'll likely go about this (it doesn't involve moving any Herndon kids to Langley), but please confirm you'd welcome an explanation.

Otherwise, the other Langley poster who tries to police all these threads will probably accuse me of being an advocate for this change when I've just tried to shed light on what they likely have in mind so that others can think more about this and organize.

It's telling that all her venom hasn't discouraged McDaniel, Lady, Frisch, etc one iota.

What a weird power play tease. All you need to say is that they likely move part of McLean to Langley and then part of Forestville to Herndon. No need to be all cloak and dagger about it.

Ah, so it’s OK to acknowledge this when it comes out of your mouth, just not others? Got it.

Although if they mess with these boundaries, it could be all of Forestville or everything west of Springvale, not just part of Forestville.

Weird hostility.

But agree with you that it might also be all of Forestville.

[Anonymous]

“Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) places equity at the center of our mission and commits to creating inclusive school communities.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It isn't about proximity to the high school - its about the demographics.

Hunt Valley brings what Lewis needs.

As does Keene Mill, which is much closer to Lewis.

And Daventry, which is the closest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn't about proximity to the high school - its about the demographics.

Hunt Valley brings what Lewis needs.

So are you saying decisions should be based proximity to the high school? Western Langley pyramid fervently disagrees.

If it’s based on proximity then really none of the current WSHS ES and neighborhoods are close to Lewis. WS’s boundaries are pretty compact without a lot of “gerrymandering.”

True.

They are one of the few compact, non gerrymandered high schools in Fairfax County.