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Anonymous
This is the best post reply in the history of all replies on this posting board. +1000 |
Anonymous
When the top DA teams in the Mid Atlantic are losing games to the mid tier teams in ECNL in showcases, I would say your claim is flawed. |
Anonymous
Top Tier DA teams played Mid-Teir ECNL teams in a showcase? WTF....lmfao |
Anonymous
Very well put. It is the chest beaters on both sides that seem to be the issue. My daughter is an ECNL player who was offered 2 DA spots last year. As a family we made the decision to play ECNL instead. That decision was the right fit for my daughter, it might not be for another. There is room for both leagues in this country. Perhaps some day we will even have a situation where the age group champions from the DA play the age group champions from ECNL to give a true National Champ in each age group. |
Anonymous
Just as an FYI -- the VDA had a showcase and Richmond United played in it. ECNL teams have played DA teams in Showcases (these showcases must follow DA rules). |
Anonymous
All you can do is what is best in your area. Again, it is where the talent end up going that matters. And locally that starts at the 05 age group. One cannot judge the fate of either league based on entrenched age groups. Clubs that had ECNL and went DA performed well simply because they retained their players. Clubs that were in ECNL and turned down or were not offered ECNL performed well because they retained players. BRYC's inaugural season in ECNL: U18 3-10 8th place (Last) U17 6-7-1 4th place U16 7-5-2 3rd U15 11-2-1 1st U14 3-5 7th out of 8 U13 0-6 6th place (Last) McLean: U18 14-0 1st U17 12-1-1 1st U16 11-2-1 !st U15 7-5-2 4th U14 4-5-2 6th U13 5-2-1 2nd So, when you look at the lower age groups where player entrenchment is less of a factor for McLean they are not dominant. And BRYC, competed well for a non-ECNL club which also calls into question ECNL overall. This is for all those who like to say a ECNL team beat a DA team crap. Well when that DA team was an ECNL team last year the result was likely the same then too. But clearly BRYC was challenged as a respected club and McLean simply sat at the table and ate with the overall weakening of ECNL with club departures. |
Anonymous
Uhhh . . . You responded to someone questioning whether “Top Tier DA teams” played ECNL teams by pointing to VDA? You may need to look up what Top Tier means. |
Anonymous
NP and ECNL parent here. First there are not "8 ECNL showcases." There are 2 ECNL showcase plus the ECNL playoffs. Other showcase type tournaments commonly attended each year by our ECNL team include Jeff Cup, CASL, Loudoun, Bethesda, OBGC and SAC. So not impossible or even unusual for an ECNL team to play 8 showcases plus playoffs. |
Anonymous
There will be showcases where a DA bracket is offered, meaning one game a day and no more than 2 games without a day of rest, are outside of US Soccer where ECNL and DA teams will play each other. While it is a barometer of sorts showcases are not played to "win". While teams want a quality showing they are intended to showcase the players, not the teams. So teams do their best to play every player a significant amount time so that they can be seen an evaluated by scouts. You can pretty much take all scores and throw them out the window for the value that they offer. |
Anonymous
#MONEYGRAB Yes, every girl gets to be ELITE and wear a fancy patch. The big USSDA and ECNL nets has resulted in dilution and no movement and a bunch of B teamers will be on DD's roster. Nothing new, no concentration of talent. I guess I should be more thankful that so many parents willing to put their DD on as a roster filler and support an elite option almost everywhere I drive in NoVA. Do the DA-lovers even realize that their DD will get starts 25% of the time, yes, and then be quickly pulled out to ride the pine like they do the other 75% of the matches?? |
Anonymous
ok message board warrior (we both know you only have a big mouth in front of a screen)..........the point is ECNL and DA teams do play one another. |
Anonymous
Thanks for the response. I have a follow-up if you are willing to answer: what is the reason a team would decide to go to as many as 6-8 additional tournaments/showcases on top of the 2 ECNL ones (plus potential playoffs)? Do teams feel that there are not enough college coaches in attendance at the official ECNL showcases? And do parents have to pay all the travel costs for all the showcases? |
Anonymous
Agree. ECNL has become what looks like a watered down CCL1 league because the talent pools are static and no longer a draw in surrounding areas. Sucks to pay so much money for a lesser product next year. |
Anonymous
How about this section of the article - While an ECNL source declined to confirm it explicitly, one youth soccer insider tells SoccerWire that Crossfire Premier and Reign/Seattle United* (Seattle area), Slammers (Southern California) and Eclipse (Chicago area) are also reconsidering their relationships with the Girls DA and may well depart entirely, too. *Correction: Seattle United have already announced their full entry into ECNL effective next season, signaling the end of the club’s partnership with NWSL side Seattle Reign FC. |
Anonymous
Wake up. USSF will not use hard ball tactics like that. That is pure DA chest beating fantasy. April Heinrichs has already publicly stated that USSF will continue to scout other platforms. USSF and college scouts will always go to where the talent is. Heinrich's motto is: "If you are good enough to play soccer on the National team - we will find you." |