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Anonymous
Unlike the boys, the girls had a clear top league (ECNL). The league was formed by the BIG clubs (PDA, HAWKS, ETC) without the help of the USSF. The Clubs had full control of development. ECNL was merely a platform for the best players in the country. It was, for the lack of a better term, a showcase league. When the DA came along, it watered down ECNL significantly. They essentially took the ECNL teams and rebranded them and put them under strict guidelines that they don’t like. They did this in fear of losing their talent to DA. Now, after a year, they have asked USSF to make changes (split age group, sub rule, etc). USSF won’t budge. So USSF will destroy itself. A private club does not need to listen to USSF. They can do ECNL and can be more profitable. |
Anonymous
No they don’t. You can sub more players, and players can renter in ECNL |
Anonymous
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Wow BIG NEWS... Here are the first big DA defections -
Sky Blue PDA FC Stars Massachusetts Michigan Hawks https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/77568/girls-development-academy-defections-three-major.html |
Anonymous
They are probably tired from playing so many more games in GDA. |
Anonymous
Finally, someone points out one of the many issues with DA. It is still a greta option but you can't say that it will be the best for every young women. |
Anonymous
| PDA, FC Stars and MI Hawks are major players. As I have said 100x on this board, DA is not the best option for many girls who love sports. Most of the girls I know play multiple sports and I would argue that a third play multiple sports at a very competitive level. So if you are a strong soccer player who is a great lacrosse or basket-ball player, you are not doing DA. Also, I am sure these clubs appreciate playing non-DA teams. This announcement should wake-up the numerous tools that are under cover PR for the DA. |
Anonymous
| Ok DA parents. Let's hear your arguments for why losing Sky Blue PDA, MI Hawks and FC Stars to ECNL does not matter... |
Anonymous
And the bolded is a major problem with US Soccer on the world stage. The simple fact that the college game cant even play the same game as the rest of the world does is pathetic. Nothing says be an aggressive raw athlete first and a talented soccer player second than the ability to rest and then go back into the game later. Who needs possession to tire the other team down when instead you can just sprint after long ball after long ball all game until one goes in for a goal. It is this fundamental objective that US Soccer with DA is trying to change. No, they are not interested in developing college players by mimicking the college game, they are trying to develop players who are capable of playing the same game that the rest of the world is playing. American style of possession is; switch, switch, release forward along wing, cross, shoot repeat. There is no patience or proper tempo of play. |
Anonymous
Yes, yes, I get it. But fundamentally, attempting to change college soccer by forcing youth soccer GDA rules is ass backwards logic. |
Anonymous
It does matter but it is more of a regional issue. Certainly losing PDA affects the overall strength of the division, but the players ultimately decide where to play. Frankly, what a club in Michigan does has several degrees of separation from my kid, PDA less so. But, at the end of the day, the players will choose the platform that works for them. Does any of this mean that my kid is going to immediately run to BRYC, McLean or Loudoun now? Not any more or less than before honestly. But, I am one of the few posters that has always maintained that there is room for both leagues in regards to the girls game. Women's soccer is huge in this country and the overall availability to more higher quality programs does not harm the players. It DOES harm the chest beaters who need to proclaim their kid is in the best, but instead they should be thinking, my kid is in the best for her. |
Anonymous
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DA parent here. It's a problem I will paying close attention to. However. DA mid Atlantic still better than ECNL mid atlantic going forward for my kids age group.
Not interested in playing CCL soccer rebranded as ECNL. Rather play ECNL soccer rebranded as DA. |
Anonymous
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https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/more-large-youth-clubs-leave-girls-da-for-all-in-ecnl-status/
"What’s more, other unconfirmed rumors suggest that other major youth clubs are set to follow the trio’s lead." Seriously, Why so many clubs leaving? The Cool-aid drinking DA crown on this board care to explain? |
Anonymous
This is about the 5th time in this thread that I have seen this and I can't stand it anymore. It is "Kool-Aid", NOT "Cool-Aid" Thanks! |
Anonymous
Here is the thing, if clubs are leaving solely because of policy issues with DA rules those are things within US Soccer's control to change as needed. There is a lot of meat on the bone for US Soccer to make concessions on. U16/17 combined age group a problem? OK, we'll break it up. HS sports really a big issue? OK, we can add flexibility to DP rules and also allow players to indulge HS sports. Allow more up and down movement with DP players and increase the number of games they can play in order to potentially back fill roster holes due to HS. Require only National Training Center players to avoid HS Soccer. To expensive? Start requiring pro clubs to subsidize the program to a level that undercuts the training costs of ECNL clubs. Travel costs what travel costs. A license to restrictive and the cost of the A license to high? Ok, we'll lower the cost and reduce the number of required A's but will hold the line at B licensed coaches. DA membership fees to high for the club? We can reduce that too. Now for the hard ball tacticts US Soccer is just not going to heavily scout ECNL anything. Even a NTC invite is HUUUUUGE for college recruiting resume. Is it political bullshit? Sure, but the argument can be made "hey, we want the kids who want that opportunity regardless if there is a .0001% of making the national team. They don't want kids who have "settled" or lowered their expectations at 15 years old anyway." Lower the age groups and eliminate combined age groups. DA Showcases begin to add an international flair. |
Anonymous
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When every major ECNL club left for DA it was no big deal...right?
Now a few clubs go back to ECNL and it's over for the DA....right? Which one is it? Every club mentioned above fielded both DA and ECNL teams. I'm assuming the were getting pressured to pick one or the other. From a business standpoint, ECNL is bigger money maker for the club. Plus, the clubs now control their own destiny versue being restricted by USSF. It's a cluster F and the kids are the only ones screwed in all of this. 1st US Soccer breaks up teams due to internationally age rules. Then they break up ECNL for DA. |