Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

[Anonymous]

Actually it really was an expand WJ or reopen Woodward choice. Not expand WJ, reopen Woodward, or get split up and sent to Kennedy, Einstein and Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

The WJ Blair magnet students have long rides currently, which is why their parents are advocating for something else. That is the point.

WJ parents received the $220 million Woodward High School to relieve its overcrowding. Blair got 20+ portables and the likelihood of relieving its overcrowding by moving its high achieving students to Woodward once Woodward opens.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

Is this a vote within the PTA? These aren't choices that should be given to a subset of MCPS families to make on their own. As you can see, the construction of Woodward impacts all down county families as well as all MoCo taxpayers.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

So, they wanted to relieve the overcrowding by getting a new school… but only if the new school was full of the right kind of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

So, they wanted to relieve the overcrowding by getting a new school… but only if the new school was full of the right kind of people.

No it was understood that it would be for WJ plus others. Not to get sent across county. WJ kids don’t usually get into the Blair magnet. That is the rare unicorn.

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I think you're missing the point. This decision wasn't made because of a survey. They do what they want

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

What you may view as "entitlement", others may view as "advocacy" for their children and community.

Kids don't deserve extra advantages based on how skilled their parents are at advocacy. (And honestly they generally already get advantages based on their parents' advocacy at an individual level... they definitely don't deserve the double benefit of getting better school assignments due to their parents' better advocacy. Triple benefit, honestly, because likely these families have a lot of other socioeconomic advantages over other kids to start with...)

I think you are missing the point. When asked, WJ families overwhelmingly voted in surveys and advocated for reopening Woodward and expanding the boundary of Woodward to include DCC students versus just building WJ big enough to actually house the current WJ student body.

They advocated for Woodward as a solution to overcrowding in WJ and DCC, along with expansion of Northwood.

WJ PTAs testified for this at the BOE. Most other high school cluster PTAs also advocate for things that they want. It really is ok. And it is ok to have feelings when things don’t work out the way you want

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

So, they wanted to relieve the overcrowding by getting a new school… but only if the new school was full of the right kind of people.

No it was understood that it would be for WJ plus others. Not to get sent across county. WJ kids don’t usually get into the Blair magnet. That is the rare unicorn.

So your concern is with option 3, which would send a portion of the WJ feeders elsewhere, and which almost definitely won’t happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

So, they wanted to relieve the overcrowding by getting a new school… but only if the new school was full of the right kind of people.

No it was understood that it would be for WJ plus others. Not to get sent across county. WJ kids don’t usually get into the Blair magnet. That is the rare unicorn.

So your concern is with option 3, which would send a portion of the WJ feeders elsewhere, and which almost definitely won’t happen.

Correct. That is the concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Discussions with Jack Smith and Seth Adams? They're not here any more.

[Anonymous]

I think we learned in covid to not trust the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we learned in covid to not trust the schools.

I thought one of them was focused on rebuilding trust? Was it McKnight?

We need that trust rebuilt at this point.

Too much disruption already over the last several years, between covid and the shenanigans under McKnight. Looking for some reasonableness at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we learned in covid to not trust the schools.

I thought one of them was focused on rebuilding trust? Was it McKnight?

We need that trust rebuilt at this point.

Too much disruption already over the last several years, between covid and the shenanigans under McKnight. Looking for some reasonableness at this point.

I feel like Taylor will come up with something reasonable in the end.