Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.

Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.

With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.

A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.

How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf

Region 3:

Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications


Region 5:

Crown - Science, Math and Computer science


Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.

Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.

Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.

If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.

The same watered down academics will exist in Woodward.

US news latest ranking in Maryland.

Walt Whitman High School #2 in Maryland (of 257)
Thomas S. Wootton High School #3
Poolesville High School #4
Winston Churchill High School #8
Richard Montgomery High School #11
Walter Johnson High School #14
Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School #20
Northwest High School #21
Quince Orchard High School #33
Col. Zadok Magruder High School #35
Clarksburg High School #37
Springbrook High School #39
Montgomery Blair High School #42
Damascus High School #44
Paint Branch High School #50
Rockville High School #52
Wheaton High School #57
Sherwood High School #58
James Hubert Blake High School #72
Northwood High School #89
Seneca Valley High School #97
Albert Einstein High School #103
Gaithersburg High School #120
Watkins Mill High School #138
John F. Kennedy #149

Einstein is pretty low. I thought enough motivated kids are present in Einstein. I am surprised to see it with Watkins Mill.

There are lots of great motivated kids but few apps and other offerings. Remove the preforming arts, which is the reason why kids choose it, and they may lose a lot more kids.

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Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.

Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.

With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.

A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.

How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf

Region 3:

Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications


Region 5:

Crown - Science, Math and Computer science


Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.

Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.

Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.

If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.

Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.

Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).

Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.

The same kids will choose Northwood leaving Einstein to decline. The vp leaving was the only strong admin

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Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.

Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.

With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.

A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.

How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf

Region 3:

Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications


Region 5:

Crown - Science, Math and Computer science


Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.

Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.

Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.

If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.

Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.

Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).

Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.

VAC and VAPA have always been separate, so there's no divorcing needed. The Education program is probably the Teacher Academy of Maryland, which Einstein already has.

I thought they cut out or back the teacher program from lack of interest. I know we will bail if this happens.

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Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.

Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.

With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.

A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.

How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf

Region 3:

Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications


Region 5:

Crown - Science, Math and Computer science


Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.

Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.

Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.

If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.

Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.

Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).

Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.

The same kids will choose Northwood leaving Einstein to decline. The vp leaving was the only strong admin

There will be no more choosing. Everyone goes to their zoned school unless they get into a special program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.

Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.

With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.

A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.

How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf

Region 3:

Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications


Region 5:

Crown - Science, Math and Computer science


Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.

Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.

Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.

If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.

Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.

Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).

Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.

The same kids will choose Northwood leaving Einstein to decline. The vp leaving was the only strong admin

There will be no more choosing. Everyone goes to their zoned school unless they get into a special program.

Then that sucks even more as they are going to water down Einstein even more. If that happens, we'll be leaving MCPS. Einstein aready has watered down academics.