Mamdani vs NYPD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Suffolk County PD has a lower starting salary but it goes to $190k after 8 years, which is much better than the NYPD. SCPD also offers retirement at 20 years vs. the NYPD at 22 years.

I'm guessing most city cops don't want to move out to the boonies of Eastern Long Island. I'm not saying it's not nice in some parts out there but it's far from the city and very expensive. Most people don't realize it takes an hour drive (LIE, no traffic) to get to Riverhead from the Queens border. And if they had wanted to, they would have already.

[Anonymous]

Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Chump said the entire federal workforce was sh!t and that many of them weren't needed. He told them to leave. He even said they were so worthless he would pay them to leave. Then he started firing them. Interesting how so many good hardworking feds are complaining and suing to stay hired.

Mamdani is nowhere near this level. Much of what he's saying resonates with the public because they live in poor neighborhoods and have eyes and ears on the cops. Maybe he could have been a little more measured but he's not a politician and white MAGA polarize everything with their ADHD sound bites. New Yorkers know what he's talking about and they're thick skinned to not get triggered. Good cops won't leave because of standards but bad cops will. I feel bad (not really, though) for small PD that don't have enough PO to hide these bad apples.

What makes you believe cops would leave over standards? The same commissioner will be in charge. Standards won’t change. Support from the mayor will change. It’s likely funding will change. Departures will certainly increase, which creates staffing strain. Pay won’t go up but stress will.

Read this article and get back to us. Focus on the dates, policies, people involved, and the numbers. Why this has become a Mamdani issue is ridiculous. If New Yorkers (or the outside agitators) cared about the police department, why did it take a brown Asian muslim for them to start complaining so vociferously?

Below are some snippets from the article, but I highly suggest you read the entire piece. Again, how is this Mamdani's fault? Because he said some truthful things that hurt a few dirty and/or incompetent cops' feelings 10 or 20 years later? Finally, seeing how poorly the NYPD has been managed for years, are you suggesting that a group of grizzled grown men need nothing more than a need mayor to whisper softly in their ears while giving them a reach around to stay with the department? smh

When Standards Collapse: How the NYPD’s Broken Hiring System Put Unqualified Officers on the Street

• Thirty-one NYPD officers, who should have been screened out of the hiring process, were suspended on or about Thursday, July 10, 2025.

• A bureau commander asked [one of the men who worked for the union defending officers] once at a discipline hearing, ‘how can you represent these guys?’ and his answer was stunning: ‘we didn’t hire these guys – you did – and we are just making sure you don’t treat them unfairly.’

• The last thing the NYPD needed was another challenge. The policies that management has pushed down to the officers have been a disaster. Poor restraint policies turned what should have been quick, decisive arrests into chaotic and sometimes ridiculous viral videos. Meanwhile, the failure to contain violent rioters—by not directing them into a controlled area—led to unnecessary disruption for both commuters and emergency responders. When so-called protesters are able to block the bridges and tunnels of an island, NYPD management proved that the protesters were in control. Years ago, criminals didn’t dare commit a deadly assault on New York cops.

• The attacks on NYPD officers have been happening for years. In 2014, a murderer targeted and killed two NYPD officers sitting in their car on a detail. It was the first shooting death of a NYPD officer in three years in the largest municipal police department in the world.

• There has been a mass exodus of officers for years. In 2024, about 3,000 officers quit or retired and only about 2,400 replacements were recruited. Mandatory overtime and despite published reports, a 9% increase in serious crime, contribute to diminished morale.

• Scandals and lawsuits are swirling around One Police Plaza—from allegations of sexual misconduct involving Chief of Department Maddrey to accusations of bribery in the promotions process. The situation has escalated to the point where FBI agents in blue windbreakers are showing up at officials' homes, demanding access to the personal devices of the department’s leadership. It’s been hard to watch.

• “In an effort to attempt to meet hiring and diversity quotas, the NYPD has made a concerted effort to lower standards for recruitment. They lowered physical standards, criminal history standards and even psychological standards to achieve these goals, citing these as “barriers” to hiring a diverse workforce. Even after lowering standards, they have still not been able to meet hiring goals so they decided to override candidates who could not make the cut as it relates to criminal history and even overriding candidates that failed the psychological exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, how is this Mamdani's fault? Because he said some truthful things that hurt a few dirty and/or incompetent cops' feelings 10 or 20 years later?

Two and five years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

It’s not about standards, it’s about support.

Why should anyone support corrupt or racist cops?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Supposedly 5,000 are quitting because Mamdani got elected. I'd say that anyone quitting their job on the force just because they thought someone said something mean is a snowflake who doesn't have the temperament to be a police officer in the first place. Hopefully that includes some of the corrupt ones, because I do think there's some overlap.

As for NYPD demographics, it largely mirrors NYC demographics within about 5-10% in each demographic area, with one bigger exception being more latinos and less whites on the force now than 20 years ago.

This is fake news and you know it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

And you will be the first to volunteer to host all those nice people from Rikers, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop

He blasted ALL cops. None are going to like that.

Such a fangurl cope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop

There are 34,000 NYPD officers. How many does each cop interact with in a month, 100, 200? How many of those 200 do they know anything about beyond their names? Those cops don’t know who the racists, homophobes and corrupt cops are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Good cops should welcome getting rid of racist, homophobic, and corrupt cops who abuse their power. If you don’t, you aren’t a good cop

There are 34,000 NYPD officers. How many does each cop interact with in a month, 100, 200? How many of those 200 do they know anything about beyond their names? Those cops don’t know who the racists, homophobes and corrupt cops are.

You really think that they don't know who the bad ones are? Cops have partners. They have CI and talk to regular people and known and rehabbed criminals in the neighborhoods they patrol. There is Internal Affairs. And a CCRB. You're stupid if you think that most normal cops want to associate with and deal with the blowback and the pressure from the brotherhood to cover up sh!t that corrupt and racist cops do.

Patch (2020): These NYPD Precincts Top Their Borough's Confirmed Cop Complaints

A largely-Black swath of east Brooklyn. A Bronx outpost. An ocean-side presence in Far Rockaway. A view of the Staten Island Ferry. A hold in Harlem.

These are the places protected by NYPD officers who amassed the most substantiated misconduct complaints in their boroughs, according to a new database published by ProPublica.

The database covers more than two decades of confirmed wrongdoing by cops, as documented by the Civilian Complaint Review Board. Some individual cops have racked up dozens of accusations, the database shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!

They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!

They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.

Actually, your president has raped and molested a bunch of people. Where were these police? That’s right, voting for him.

Sounds like Mamdani is finally cleaning NYC up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!

They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.

Further, Mamdani is finally going to do something about mentally ill people wandering around committing crimes. NYC is going the be better than ever!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani will be the mayor who finally has the guts to fully defund the NYPD and tear down Rikers Island, along with all the other vile prisons and jails.

Right on, comrade! Put the criminals on the streets, not behind bars! Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate? Felons! Felons! Felons!

They are just like you & me, except we haven’t set anybody on fire, pushed anybody onto railroad tracks, raped any old ladies, molested any kids, invaded anybody’s home, or carjacked an Uber. But other than stuff like that, we are the same.

Just because someone has committed a crime, it doesn’t make that person a criminal.