Mamdani vs NYPD

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On LinkedIn, ICE has a hiring ad directed to NYPD officers.

Florida is targeting NYPD cops. What will happen is the best cops will leave NYC, only those close to pensions or those with lower qualifications will stay.

You’d have to really hate yourself to apply as an NYPD cop given how the city keeps getting worse.

Actual New Yorker here. NYC is a very pricey place to live. That’s the issue. Not the mayor. Mamdani seeks to address affordability which a lot of cops want. He made some ill informed blanket statement in the past about cops, but thankfully is smart enough to grow and show he can change. His initiative to relieve cops of many mental health calls is appreciated by cops. He also showed up at that slain cops memorial service (the one shot by the football player with CTE). You don’t think hundreds of NYPD weren’t there and moved by it? You underestimate them.

Btw the force is extremely diverse now. A lot of people on this chain seem to be focused on old fashioned tropes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how the tone becomes so racist and doomsaying as soon as a newcomer comes onto the scene.

Racist? Newcomer? This has nothing to do with race, color or religion. He could be a newcomer or a government hack. This is about a person that made it abundantly clear, as an educated adult, that he is anti-cop. He proudly rallied around this cause on social media, for all to see.

“We don’t need an investigation to know that the NYPD is racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety. What we need is to #DefundTheNYPD.”

“There is no negotiating with an institution this wicked & corrupt. Defund it. Dismantle it. End the cycle of violence.”

These are strong words from a person with even stronger opinions. This person now controls the very organization he despises.

Oh, that’s right, he had an epiphany, he has a different opinion now. Sure he does. Is anyone here going to have an epiphany and suddenly soften on MAGA? What about Vance? Johnson? How many racists have you decided to support because they aren’t so bad after all?

He’s not anti-cop he’s anti-corrupt cop. The question you might ask yourself is why do you go so hard to defend bad cops?

Does abolishing the police only impact the corrupt cops? What about defunding them?

NYPD spend a lot of money on “security” training firms from Israel. This is just more of the pro Israel group attack him.

Here are the countries that have hosted the NYPD for training.

London (UK)
Paris (France)
Jerusalem/Kfar Saba (Israel)
Madrid (Spain)
Sydney (Australia)
Amman (Jordan)
Bogotá (Colombia)
Toronto (Canada)
Montreal (Canada)
Singapore
Abu Dhabi (UAE)

If you want real world, real time training in anti-terrorism intelligence, prevention and reaction strategies you probably can’t find a more active, U.S. friendly country than Israel.

Right the sophisticated intelligence that missed October 7 despite multiple female IDF watchers warning of it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how the tone becomes so racist and doomsaying as soon as a newcomer comes onto the scene.

Racist? Newcomer? This has nothing to do with race, color or religion. He could be a newcomer or a government hack. This is about a person that made it abundantly clear, as an educated adult, that he is anti-cop. He proudly rallied around this cause on social media, for all to see.

“We don’t need an investigation to know that the NYPD is racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety. What we need is to #DefundTheNYPD.”

“There is no negotiating with an institution this wicked & corrupt. Defund it. Dismantle it. End the cycle of violence.”

These are strong words from a person with even stronger opinions. This person now controls the very organization he despises.

Oh, that’s right, he had an epiphany, he has a different opinion now. Sure he does. Is anyone here going to have an epiphany and suddenly soften on MAGA? What about Vance? Johnson? How many racists have you decided to support because they aren’t so bad after all?

He’s not anti-cop he’s anti-corrupt cop. The question you might ask yourself is why do you go so hard to defend bad cops?

LOL…Dems are anti-bad cop. Too bad they aren’t anti-bad criminal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how the tone becomes so racist and doomsaying as soon as a newcomer comes onto the scene.

Racist? Newcomer? This has nothing to do with race, color or religion. He could be a newcomer or a government hack. This is about a person that made it abundantly clear, as an educated adult, that he is anti-cop. He proudly rallied around this cause on social media, for all to see.

“We don’t need an investigation to know that the NYPD is racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety. What we need is to #DefundTheNYPD.”

“There is no negotiating with an institution this wicked & corrupt. Defund it. Dismantle it. End the cycle of violence.”

These are strong words from a person with even stronger opinions. This person now controls the very organization he despises.

Oh, that’s right, he had an epiphany, he has a different opinion now. Sure he does. Is anyone here going to have an epiphany and suddenly soften on MAGA? What about Vance? Johnson? How many racists have you decided to support because they aren’t so bad after all?

He’s not anti-cop he’s anti-corrupt cop. The question you might ask yourself is why do you go so hard to defend bad cops?

Does abolishing the police only impact the corrupt cops? What about defunding them?

NYPD spend a lot of money on “security” training firms from Israel. This is just more of the pro Israel group attack him.

Here are the countries that have hosted the NYPD for training.

London (UK)
Paris (France)
Jerusalem/Kfar Saba (Israel)
Madrid (Spain)
Sydney (Australia)
Amman (Jordan)
Bogotá (Colombia)
Toronto (Canada)
Montreal (Canada)
Singapore
Abu Dhabi (UAE)

If you want real world, real time training in anti-terrorism intelligence, prevention and reaction strategies you probably can’t find a more active, U.S. friendly country than Israel.

Right the sophisticated intelligence that missed October 7 despite multiple female IDF watchers warning of it

We missed 9/11 despite chatter and had commercial airplanes kill thousands of Americans. Counterterrorism has to bat 1.000 every day or people die. Israel is better at it than we are. We’re surrounded by oceans and non-threatening countries. Israel is in the sandbox.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Supposedly 5,000 are quitting because Mamdani got elected. I'd say that anyone quitting their job on the force just because they thought someone said something mean is a snowflake who doesn't have the temperament to be a police officer in the first place. Hopefully that includes some of the corrupt ones, because I do think there's some overlap.

As for NYPD demographics, it largely mirrors NYC demographics within about 5-10% in each demographic area, with one bigger exception being more latinos and less whites on the force now than 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He made some ill informed blanket statement in the past about cops, but thankfully is smart enough to grow and show he can change.

Statements, plural, repeatedly, both written and spoken word examples. That you think HE changed is naive. His front facing facade changed to make him electable. The real Mamdani is the old Mamdani. Like I said, no one here is going to extend grace to Republicans because they hate them. They think they’re corrupt, racist, and homophobic. Where have I heard that before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Supposedly 5,000 are quitting because Mamdani got elected.

Where did that number come from? That’s aggressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

It’s not about standards, it’s about support.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

For starters, I think most people are smarter than to reach the illogical conclusions you suggest. If they aren't, maybe they need a new line of work?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

It’s not about standards, it’s about support.

Are you representing the NYPD, because I don't think they whine the way you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

It’s not about standards, it’s about support.

Are you representing the NYPD, because I don't think they whine the way you do.

No, they just leave for Nassau, Westchester and Suffolk counties where they can make more money and work for a boss that respects them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how the tone becomes so racist and doomsaying as soon as a newcomer comes onto the scene.

Racist? Newcomer? This has nothing to do with race, color or religion. He could be a newcomer or a government hack. This is about a person that made it abundantly clear, as an educated adult, that he is anti-cop. He proudly rallied around this cause on social media, for all to see.

“We don’t need an investigation to know that the NYPD is racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety. What we need is to #DefundTheNYPD.”

“There is no negotiating with an institution this wicked & corrupt. Defund it. Dismantle it. End the cycle of violence.”

These are strong words from a person with even stronger opinions. This person now controls the very organization he despises.

Oh, that’s right, he had an epiphany, he has a different opinion now. Sure he does. Is anyone here going to have an epiphany and suddenly soften on MAGA? What about Vance? Johnson? How many racists have you decided to support because they aren’t so bad after all?

He’s not anti-cop he’s anti-corrupt cop. The question you might ask yourself is why do you go so hard to defend bad cops?

LOL…Dems are anti-bad cop. Too bad they aren’t anti-bad criminal.

Of course they are, you are just a ridiculously ill-informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, a few corrupt cops might quit! Whatever will we do?

What makes you think the corrupt cops will quit? It’s the excellent NYPD cops that don’t want to be stigmatized, demonized, and despised by not only the citizens they serve, but the city leadership. The great cops have options to serve outside the city that the corrupt ones don’t.

When the current vigorous recruiting effort isn’t keeping up with retirements and transfers, what will happen to staffing in NYC when a self declared police detractor is sworn in as the mayor that needs to find $1.1B for the Department of Community Safety? Some of that money will come out of the NYPD budget.

Great cops should have no problem being held to high standards.

DP. You’re being deliberately disingenuous.

How many people would stay at a job where their boss suggested they were “racist, anti-queer & a major threat to public safety”?

Especially when that job is dangerous, has terrible hours, pays poorly, and when you can get a similar job elsewhere?

Mamdani’s past statements about police were incredibly ill-advised. Time will tell whether and to what extent they have real world impact.

Chump said the entire federal workforce was sh!t and that many of them weren't needed. He told them to leave. He even said they were so worthless he would pay them to leave. Then he started firing them. Interesting how so many good hardworking feds are complaining and suing to stay hired.

Mamdani is nowhere near this level. Much of what he's saying resonates with the public because they live in poor neighborhoods and have eyes and ears on the cops. Maybe he could have been a little more measured but he's not a politician and white MAGA polarize everything with their ADHD sound bites. New Yorkers know what he's talking about and they're thick skinned to not get triggered. Good cops won't leave because of standards but bad cops will. I feel bad (not really, though) for small PD that don't have enough PO to hide these bad apples.