Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I always thought it was a family member, but that it was accidental.


Me too and my money is on the boy who was, I think 10 at the time. Accidental fall down stairs and then cover up?


yes - i think it's possible that burke PUSHED her down the stairs. that could cause the brain injury. he was prob jealous b/c jonbenet was the center of attention 24/7 & it seems like burke got zero attention....
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Show is pretty corny so far - heavy on the cheesy fake drama...


I agree. The Investigation ID one was better.


Really? I totally disagree. Love the reenactment of the crime scene. I hear that the Ramsey's lawyer , Lin Wood, is going crazy right now threatening lawsuits against CBS. Did you know he is also Dr. Phil's personal lawyer? Hmmm......not a coincidence I think

A lot of the interviews are nonsense, and prove nothing.

Example-
The "friend" who said JB told her daughter that the trophies were really for her mom...just silly. Six year olds wouldn't have a conversation like that.

Patsy dying JB's hair...neither here nor there.


I heard there was a lot of fluff like that and they decided to cut most of it and make it two episodes only. I felt they were trying to fill in some details about the Ramsey family interactions. Not my favorite part, either
Anonymous
So this is why we got to see Burke on Dr. Phil... it looks like he is going to be presented as the suspect after the reannactment by the 10year old boy on this CBS version.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I always thought it was a family member, but that it was accidental.


Me too and my money is on the boy who was, I think 10 at the time. Accidental fall down stairs and then cover up?


yes - i think it's possible that burke PUSHED her down the stairs. that could cause the brain injury. he was prob jealous b/c jonbenet was the center of attention 24/7 & it seems like burke got zero attention....


Yup, accidental by a family member is the only thing that makes sense, which of course, is why the Denver police reached the same conclusion. Also entirely consistent with the fact that the parents did love her.
Anonymous
Reenactment of the skull hit by 10 year old just awful and unscientific ... ugh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Reenactment of the skull hit by 10 year old just awful and unscientific ... ugh.


Yes, that's when I turned off. WTF?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These investigators are making some assumptions about their conclusions and aren't asking themselves if they are and none of the others are checking that. I think it's an assumption that only one person "wrote" the note. Santa was a professor -- what if he dictated it like he was at a lecture to someone else who wrote the words down, which would explain the "Listen.." part. What if the person writing it wasn't the best at spelling? Why assume the misspellings are to disguise the writing? Maybe one person wrote it part of the way and the other took over, or had input?

I'm not sure I'll be able to trust their conclusions at the end.




Did they say it was only one person? My impression was that they were suggesting it was a combined effort with Patsy writing.


Seriously, what is the obsession with Santa?!


Santa was quite taken by JB and had some seriously suspicious behaviors, one of which was telling JB he had a special secret surprise for her after Christmas.

I thought the conclusion they drew about the ransom note was that it was a non-foreign born over 30 adult, who misspelled "business" with 2 s's to disguise him/herself. It sounded like they were talking about one person. I didn't hear Patsy's or anyone's name mentioned then; maybe I missed that.
Anonymous
One thing that cannot be denied is that CBS is presenting another side of possible scenarios.. and visuals to go along with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I always thought it was a family member, but that it was accidental.


Me too and my money is on the boy who was, I think 10 at the time. Accidental fall down stairs and then cover up?


yes - i think it's possible that burke PUSHED her down the stairs. that could cause the brain injury. he was prob jealous b/c jonbenet was the center of attention 24/7 & it seems like burke got zero attention....


Yup, accidental by a family member is the only thing that makes sense, which of course, is why the Denver police reached the same conclusion. Also entirely consistent with the fact that the parents did love her.




+1 Interesting to me that in the tv interviews John and Patsy seemed very much a united front but strangely calm and not angry about the murder itself. Really does make sense if they were determined to protect Burke. Yes, I'm now thinking accident, possibly involving Burke, then the horrible staging (which only makes sense if they were desperately protecting their other child, can't imagine they would cover for each other in this way).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These investigators are making some assumptions about their conclusions and aren't asking themselves if they are and none of the others are checking that. I think it's an assumption that only one person "wrote" the note. Santa was a professor -- what if he dictated it like he was at a lecture to someone else who wrote the words down, which would explain the "Listen.." part. What if the person writing it wasn't the best at spelling? Why assume the misspellings are to disguise the writing? Maybe one person wrote it part of the way and the other took over, or had input?

I'm not sure I'll be able to trust their conclusions at the end.




Did they say it was only one person? My impression was that they were suggesting it was a combined effort with Patsy writing.


Seriously, what is the obsession with Santa?!


No one wants to believe it's the parents. Creepy Santa sounds like the best alternative perhaps?


It's not that no one wants to believe. It's that some of the best criminal experts are saying it is almost unheard of for a murder of a young child that brutal to be the parents with no history of abuse or violence.

This particular show, at least part 1, seemed to be implying it could be Burke and that perhaps the parents were covering, but as others have mentioned, despite some social awkwardness, he has lived a fairly normal life with no violent episodes.

The whole thing is full of contradictions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These investigators are making some assumptions about their conclusions and aren't asking themselves if they are and none of the others are checking that. I think it's an assumption that only one person "wrote" the note. Santa was a professor -- what if he dictated it like he was at a lecture to someone else who wrote the words down, which would explain the "Listen.." part. What if the person writing it wasn't the best at spelling? Why assume the misspellings are to disguise the writing? Maybe one person wrote it part of the way and the other took over, or had input?

I'm not sure I'll be able to trust their conclusions at the end.




Did they say it was only one person? My impression was that they were suggesting it was a combined effort with Patsy writing.


Seriously, what is the obsession with Santa?!


No one wants to believe it's the parents. Creepy Santa sounds like the best alternative perhaps?


It's not that no one wants to believe. It's that some of the best criminal experts are saying it is almost unheard of for a murder of a young child that brutal to be the parents with no history of abuse or violence.

This particular show, at least part 1, seemed to be implying i

t could be Burke and that perhaps the parents were covering, but as others have mentioned, despite some social awkwardness, he has lived a fairly normal life with no violent episodes.


The whole thing is full of contradictions.


If it was an accident, there is no reason to expect him to be violent.
Anonymous
You guys really think they staged all of this to protect a 10yearold boy who could squeal at any moment? I mean kids that age aren't exactly very reliable or predictable.
Anonymous
If the boy did it and it was an accident why wouldn't they just...you know...tell the truth?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Reenactment of the skull hit by 10 year old just awful and unscientific ... ugh.


It's enough for me that the forensic pathologist is saying that a 9/10 year old kid *could* have done this. If a child would have had the strength to cause the wound to JonBenet's head then both John and Patsy also had the strength to inflict that wound.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think John killed her because he realized that night that she might tell that he was abusing her. John knew he held all the power in the family, so he believed he could keep Patsy and Burke in line. He also was someone who had used his power and money to his advantage before, so knew how to throw his weight around. He enlisted Patsy as an accomplice after the fact and then kept her drugged and terrified ever since. All of this probably contributed to her demise.


John is the only person who could have masterminded this.

I live in a pretty big house, and I know people who live in mansions. Still not seeing an intruder getting so comfy to kill and write letters while in the home.
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