Who did you think killed JonBenet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no question it was someone in the house - either the parents or Burke. The ransom note, the pineapple, the pull-up in the hallway, the complicated rooms in the house, the lack of obvious entry/exit all point to the people inside.

Websleuths has some great entries on this case.

If it was Patsy, she did it accidentally when reprimanding JB for wetting her bed again. If it was Burke, the motive was jealousy, possibly because of some Christmas present. Parents would definitely cover for Burke.

How do you explain unidentified male DNA on her underwear? Among other things that I don't really even wish to list out.

The unidentified DNA was present, but in tiniest amounts. It's pretty easy to cross contaminate evidence as well, so I'm not convinced that it doesn't belong to a sloppy lab tech b/c it was detect years later. The house that they lived in wasn't conducive to a random intruder. It was huge and maze-like. It's doubtful that someone would be able to whisk the kid from her bedroom and murder her in a completely different part of the house.

I think the brother killed her and the mom covered it up. The son is appearing on Dr. Phil most likely b/c he will get paid.

[Anonymous]

I have read extensively about this case using my fine Internet and googling skills. I am personally convinced it was either the brother or the Mom.

There are too many coincidences for it to be a robbery. The kidnapping note is incredibly strange.

I either think mom did it in a fit of rage (or some other reason), or brother and mom covered for him. Don't really know between the two

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cleared the parents. It's sad people still think they did it.

Sort of. I would suggest you read up on websleuths on the case.

I don't know where to start with this sentence.

It's a site about crime cases where people post evidence and analyze things.

Point is, Mary Lacy "cleared" them based on minuscule DNA evidence at a contaminated crime scene. It was clear that she did it unilaterally and that her successor did not agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mom did it. It's actually already been investigated on DCUM

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no question it was someone in the house - either the parents or Burke. The ransom note, the pineapple, the pull-up in the hallway, the complicated rooms in the house, the lack of obvious entry/exit all point to the people inside.

Websleuths has some great entries on this case.

If it was Patsy, she did it accidentally when reprimanding JB for wetting her bed again. If it was Burke, the motive was jealousy, possibly because of some Christmas present. Parents would definitely cover for Burke.

How do you explain unidentified male DNA on her underwear? Among other things that I don't really even wish to list out.

The unidentified DNA was present, but in tiniest amounts. It's pretty easy to cross contaminate evidence as well, so I'm not convinced that it doesn't belong to a sloppy lab tech b/c it was detect years later. The house that they lived in wasn't conducive to a random intruder. It was huge and maze-like. It's doubtful that someone would be able to whisk the kid from her bedroom and murder her in a completely different part of the house.

I think the brother killed her and the mom covered it up. The son is appearing on Dr. Phil most likely b/c he will get paid.

I totally agree with this assessment. And adding -

- the perp would have had to have taken JB from her bed upstairs while the parents and Burke slept nearby,
- then fed JB the pineapple (it wasn't served at the party the family had attended that night and was found partially digested in her stomach),
- somehow placed Burke's fingerprints on that bowl of pineapple,
- handwrote a ransom note from a pad of paper in the family's house,
- somehow know the exact amount of the father's Christmas bonus,
- and left the house without anyone hearing or seeing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cleared the parents. It's sad people still think they did it.

Sort of. I would suggest you read up on websleuths on the case.

I don't know where to start with this sentence.

It's a site about crime cases where people post evidence and analyze things.

Point is, Mary Lacy "cleared" them based on minuscule DNA evidence at a contaminated crime scene. It was clear that she did it unilaterally and that her successor did not agree.

Yeah I could guess what "websleuths" is, but thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no question it was someone in the house - either the parents or Burke. The ransom note, the pineapple, the pull-up in the hallway, the complicated rooms in the house, the lack of obvious entry/exit all point to the people inside.

Websleuths has some great entries on this case.

If it was Patsy, she did it accidentally when reprimanding JB for wetting her bed again. If it was Burke, the motive was jealousy, possibly because of some Christmas present. Parents would definitely cover for Burke.

How do you explain unidentified male DNA on her underwear? Among other things that I don't really even wish to list out.

The unidentified DNA was present, but in tiniest amounts. It's pretty easy to cross contaminate evidence as well, so I'm not convinced that it doesn't belong to a sloppy lab tech b/c it was detect years later. The house that they lived in wasn't conducive to a random intruder. It was huge and maze-like. It's doubtful that someone would be able to whisk the kid from her bedroom and murder her in a completely different part of the house.

I think the brother killed her and the mom covered it up. The son is appearing on Dr. Phil most likely b/c he will get paid.

I totally agree with this assessment. And adding -

- the perp would have had to have taken JB from her bed upstairs while the parents and Burke slept nearby,
- then fed JB the pineapple (it wasn't served at the party the family had attended that night and was found partially digested in her stomach),
- somehow placed Burke's fingerprints on that bowl of pineapple,
- handwrote a ransom note from a pad of paper in the family's house,
- somehow know the exact amount of the father's Christmas bonus,
- and left the house without anyone hearing or seeing them.

+1 It is not possible or plausible that it was an outsider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no question it was someone in the house - either the parents or Burke. The ransom note, the pineapple, the pull-up in the hallway, the complicated rooms in the house, the lack of obvious entry/exit all point to the people inside.

Websleuths has some great entries on this case.

If it was Patsy, she did it accidentally when reprimanding JB for wetting her bed again. If it was Burke, the motive was jealousy, possibly because of some Christmas present. Parents would definitely cover for Burke.

How do you explain unidentified male DNA on her underwear? Among other things that I don't really even wish to list out.

The unidentified DNA was present, but in tiniest amounts. It's pretty easy to cross contaminate evidence as well, so I'm not convinced that it doesn't belong to a sloppy lab tech b/c it was detect years later. The house that they lived in wasn't conducive to a random intruder. It was huge and maze-like. It's doubtful that someone would be able to whisk the kid from her bedroom and murder her in a completely different part of the house.

I think the brother killed her and the mom covered it up. The son is appearing on Dr. Phil most likely b/c he will get paid.

I totally agree with this assessment. And adding -

- the perp would have had to have taken JB from her bed upstairs while the parents and Burke slept nearby,
- then fed JB the pineapple (it wasn't served at the party the family had attended that night and was found partially digested in her stomach),
- somehow placed Burke's fingerprints on that bowl of pineapple,
- handwrote a ransom note from a pad of paper in the family's house,
- somehow know the exact amount of the father's Christmas bonus,
- and left the house without anyone hearing or seeing them.

Yeah and a 2 page ransom note at that:
http://fox2now.com/2015/02/26/jonbenet-ramsey-case-10-things-the-ex-police-chief-just-revealed/

Patsy also wrote her lower case As with a swoosh at the top just like in the note. She stopped doing this after the similarities between the ransom note and her handwriting were brought to light.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the brother ever spoken to media? Why would he do so now? Is there a statute of limitations on murder in CO?

I believe there is no SOL on murder anywhere. However, there are SOLs on manslaughter if involuntary I think.

Statute of limitations wouldn't matter in this case. Burke was 9 years old when the murder happened and the age of culpability in Colorado is 10 (and was in 1996 as well). Even if he did do it, he was too young to be held criminally responsible.

I tend to think it was someone in the house, but I can't dismiss an outsider. Brian Mitchell came through Elizabeth Smart's bedroom window and abducted her while her sister was right there, and nobody else in the house woke up until hours later when the sister finally gathered the courage to go tell her parents. It's complicated but not implausible that somebody came into the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the brother ever spoken to media? Why would he do so now? Is there a statute of limitations on murder in CO?

I believe there is no SOL on murder anywhere. However, there are SOLs on manslaughter if involuntary I think.

Statute of limitations wouldn't matter in this case. Burke was 9 years old when the murder happened and the age of culpability in Colorado is 10 (and was in 1996 as well). Even if he did do it, he was too young to be held criminally responsible.

I tend to think it was someone in the house, but I can't dismiss an outsider. Brian Mitchell came through Elizabeth Smart's bedroom window and abducted her while her sister was right there, and nobody else in the house woke up until hours later when the sister finally gathered the courage to go tell her parents. It's complicated but not implausible that somebody came into the house.

It's not to say that intruders haven't abducted kids from their homes, but in this case, this was the Ramsey home:


Her body was found in the basement and sometime in between she ate pineapple b/c a bowl was on the dining room table and remains in her stomach.

Lastly she was by a blunt object like a flash light, then strangled 2 hours later. An intruder isn't going to linger in the house to kill or kidnap your kid.

[Anonymous]

So creepy. Where is the brother now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brother - and mom covered for him.

Yes, yes!

[Anonymous]

http://www.people.com/article/jonbenet-ramsey-brother-burke-dr-phil

What timing. Burke Ramsey, brother of JonBenet, to speak publicly for the first time since the murder occurred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the brother ever spoken to media? Why would he do so now? Is there a statute of limitations on murder in CO?

I believe there is no SOL on murder anywhere. However, there are SOLs on manslaughter if involuntary I think.

Statute of limitations wouldn't matter in this case. Burke was 9 years old when the murder happened and the age of culpability in Colorado is 10 (and was in 1996 as well). Even if he did do it, he was too young to be held criminally responsible.

I tend to think it was someone in the house, but I can't dismiss an outsider. Brian Mitchell came through Elizabeth Smart's bedroom window and abducted her while her sister was right there, and nobody else in the house woke up until hours later when the sister finally gathered the courage to go tell her parents. It's complicated but not implausible that somebody came into the house.

That's way different because he left with ES and the sister did know. He didn't come in and linger for hours with no one noticing and then also leave with no one noticing the way an outside intruder would have had to do in the JB case. So it must be someone in the house but I never can figure out which because it makes no sense for any of them to do it. Possibly Burke but I still have trouble believing Patsy would stage a kidnapping to protect him given he was so young he would have maybe done some time in juvenile and that's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.people.com/article/jonbenet-ramsey-brother-burke-dr-phil

What timing. Burke Ramsey, brother of JonBenet, to speak publicly for the first time since the murder occurred.

Timing? Did you read the original post? That's why this thread exists.