War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crazy, Trump actually said no to his boss Netanyahu. Should we expect more Epstein files to be released soon?

But you will notice no mention of the 6 miles of Lebanese land grab by Israel. Sovereign borders don’t seem to be of interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

It’s not really open. The “agreement” is so fragile, it won’t last unless Trump surrenders and pays reparations and allows enriched uranium and removes military presence.
Shipping companies wont send their tankers through because they know it’s so fragile it could quickly become unsafe.
So here we are. Still stuck in the same mess.
And yes, the market is an idiot. But a shortage looms and no one can deny that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

[Anonymous]

“The commander of the Iranian navy, Shahram Irani, said Friday that Trump “has blockaded his friends” and not Iran, as the US said its blockade will remain in place after Iran declared the strait of Hormuz open to commercial traffic.

In a statement carried by Mizan, Iran’s official judiciary news agency, the navy chief said Trump’s blockade is just “empty words” and that no one is listening to him.”

I love this for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

It’s not really open. The “agreement” is so fragile, it won’t last unless Trump surrenders and pays reparations and allows enriched uranium and removes military presence.
Shipping companies wont send their tankers through because they know it’s so fragile it could quickly become unsafe.
So here we are. Still stuck in the same mess.
And yes, the market is an idiot. But a shortage looms and no one can deny that.

Yup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

It’s not really open. The “agreement” is so fragile, it won’t last unless Trump surrenders and pays reparations and allows enriched uranium and removes military presence.
Shipping companies wont send their tankers through because they know it’s so fragile it could quickly become unsafe.
So here we are. Still stuck in the same mess.
And yes, the market is an idiot. But a shortage looms and no one can deny that.

Yup

Whether it's golf, executive orders or money to Iran, Trump has a knack for complaining about something Obama does and then do the same thing even more himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

+1

It's glorious and ironic to see liberal-hating conservative pundits like Coulter torching Trump on this. GOP on full display in self destructive meltdown mode.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why Iran would end the war now. They are in the drivers seat. Has Trump given up all our bases in the Gulf countries? Has Trump agreed to reparations? Has Trump gotten Israel to retreat from the land they took in southern Lebanon? Has Trump given guarantees there will be no future attacks? Has Trump guaranteed the safety of Iranian tankers delivering oil to China?

Basically, Iran has no reason to agree to anything until America’s capitulation is complete. They have all the cards as Trump likes to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was open before the war. What are these People smoking? Trump needed to give conditions via negotiation table to get them to open it which means our use of force/military might failed. We are back at the negotiation table

+1

It's glorious and ironic to see liberal-hating conservative pundits like Coulter torching Trump on this. GOP on full display in self destructive meltdown mode.

Honesty is so much more commendable then the people doubling down on the lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

$20 billion cash
remove many US troops from the middle east
Iran can toll the Straits
uranium stays
regime stays

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

$20 billion cash
remove many US troops from the middle east
Iran can toll the Straits
uranium stays
regime stays

Wow. Iran really won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crazy, Trump actually said no to his boss Netanyahu. Should we expect more Epstein files to be released soon?

But you will notice no mention of the 6 miles of Lebanese land grab by Israel. Sovereign borders don’t seem to be of interest.

Exactly. Trump is forbidding more theft AFTER the main theft happened. Convenient!