War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

DP Who told you that? Iran has borders with road and rail. Pakistan and Iraq are its friends both will received and ship goods for Iran. Wait till a Chinese flagged ship fills up with oil and sails past the US blockade. How about an Australian ship. You think Trump will stop an Australian bound ship with the gas crisis in that country? Truth is they will say they stopped 14 ships today but it never happened. One thing this administration does is lie about everything.

The US does not have the ships, air coverage or cooperation of any other nation to run a blockade of this size. In the Cuban missile “quarantine”, the US used over 200 ship including 8 aircraft carriers for 500 miles radius around Cuban. This blockade is magnitudes larger.

The blockade is a Trump distraction. Just like Trump said tariffs have brought in over trillion dollars and created 10 trillion in foreign investment in the US. The US navy will stop a 1,000 ships a day and Iran will be wrecked! In reality Trump has accepted Irans 10 point plan and get nothing in return.

Meanwhile Iran is using access to the straits as a way increase trade and break US influence with countries throughout the world.

What a total and complete defeat for the US. This is an unprecedented defeat for the US and a total disaster for Israel.

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"STRAIT OF IRAN IS FULLY OPEN" TRUMP on TS
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

DP Who told you that? Iran has borders with road and rail. Pakistan and Iraq are its friends both will received and ship goods for Iran. Wait till a Chinese flagged ship fills up with oil and sails past the US blockade. How about an Australian ship. You think Trump will stop an Australian bound ship with the gas crisis in that country? Truth is they will say they stopped 14 ships today but it never happened. One thing this administration does is lie about everything.

The US does not have the ships, air coverage or cooperation of any other nation to run a blockade of this size. In the Cuban missile “quarantine”, the US used over 200 ship including 8 aircraft carriers for 500 miles radius around Cuban. This blockade is magnitudes larger.

The blockade is a Trump distraction. Just like Trump said tariffs have brought in over trillion dollars and created 10 trillion in foreign investment in the US. The US navy will stop a 1,000 ships a day and Iran will be wrecked! In reality Trump has accepted Irans 10 point plan and get nothing in return.

Meanwhile Iran is using access to the straits as a way increase trade and break US influence with countries throughout the world.

What a total and complete defeat for the US. This is an unprecedented defeat for the US and a total disaster for Israel.

Land routes cannot even remotely make up for what they're losing by not having a viable sea route with a blockade going. Iran does not have capacity to move oil over land in any reasonable volume.

Also, Australia isn't a problem. They haven't been buying any meaningful amount of oil from Iran. And I guarantee Australia isn't going to try and make a thunder run past a US blockade. The US isn't quarantining all traffic. That's not the mission. They are only stopping traffic coming from Iranian ports.

Bottom line still remains, sea routes are Iran's economic lifeblood. With the US blockading it, that's a huge liability for Iran.

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Anonymous wrote:"STRAIT OF IRAN IS FULLY OPEN" TRUMP on TS
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Not for long, Israel already broke another ceasefire for the thousandth plus time

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-04-17/ty-article-live/trump-says-war-in-iran-should-be-ending-pretty-soon/0000019d-9934-d9bd-abfd-fbf508480000

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I just watched the French evening news (France 2 channel), and instead of sticking to the content of the announcements like they used to do, they discussed the number of his posts in such a short amount of time, and his autocratic tone when addressing another head of state, Netanyahu. Clearly they're insinuating that he's a loose cannon and not to be trusted.

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I just watched the French evening news (France 2 channel), and instead of sticking to the content of the announcements like they used to do, they discussed the number of his posts in such a short amount of time, and his autocratic tone when addressing another head of state, Netanyahu. Clearly they're insinuating that he's a loose cannon and not to be trusted.

Me again. Just as I thought. Iran has refuted a lot of Trump's posts from today. He's in a dementia manic episode today.

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How can anything trump says be believed?

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It can’t- which is why there is no reason to negotiate a deal with him when he will just break it two days later.

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats on “opening” a strait that was open six weeks ago, and all it cost was at least 13 dead service members, thousands of dead Iranian civilians, tens of billions in US taxpayer dollars, US loss in global standing, and the Iranian regime’s increase in power.

It is only open while the ceasefire holds. Trump better accept the surrender terms dictated by the Iranians- unfreeze Iranian assets, pay reparations and remove bases from the region. The nuclear stuff should be of the table unless the US and Israel give up their nuclear weapons and enriched materials.

Good grief. You truly think Iran has the upper hand here?
What have you been smoking?

If the US has the upper hand, why does it have to make concessions to get the Strait opened?

Wat actual concessions has the US made?

We're blockading Iran linked ship traffic. 90% of Iran's economy depends on those ships getting through.

DP Who told you that? Iran has borders with road and rail. Pakistan and Iraq are its friends both will received and ship goods for Iran. Wait till a Chinese flagged ship fills up with oil and sails past the US blockade. How about an Australian ship. You think Trump will stop an Australian bound ship with the gas crisis in that country? Truth is they will say they stopped 14 ships today but it never happened. One thing this administration does is lie about everything.

The US does not have the ships, air coverage or cooperation of any other nation to run a blockade of this size. In the Cuban missile “quarantine”, the US used over 200 ship including 8 aircraft carriers for 500 miles radius around Cuban. This blockade is magnitudes larger.

The blockade is a Trump distraction. Just like Trump said tariffs have brought in over trillion dollars and created 10 trillion in foreign investment in the US. The US navy will stop a 1,000 ships a day and Iran will be wrecked! In reality Trump has accepted Irans 10 point plan and get nothing in return.

Meanwhile Iran is using access to the straits as a way increase trade and break US influence with countries throughout the world.

What a total and complete defeat for the US. This is an unprecedented defeat for the US and a total disaster for Israel.

Land routes cannot even remotely make up for what they're losing by not having a viable sea route with a blockade going. Iran does not have capacity to move oil over land in any reasonable volume.

Also, Australia isn't a problem. They haven't been buying any meaningful amount of oil from Iran. And I guarantee Australia isn't going to try and make a thunder run past a US blockade. The US isn't quarantining all traffic. That's not the mission. They are only stopping traffic coming from Iranian ports.

Bottom line still remains, sea routes are Iran's economic lifeblood. With the US blockading it, that's a huge liability for Iran.

What the f do you think the US is going to do? Blow up tankers? This blockade is a joke. Do you really think Iran will keep the strait open if there is a blockade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"STRAIT OF IRAN IS FULLY OPEN" TRUMP on TS
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Not for long, Israel already broke another ceasefire for the thousandth plus time

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-04-17/ty-article-live/trump-says-war-in-iran-should-be-ending-pretty-soon/0000019d-9934-d9bd-abfd-fbf508480000

There is no restrictions on hitting Israel.

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How can anything trump says be believed?

He called it strait of Iran not Strait of Hormuz.
He is admitting something.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are more troops being sent to the ME after Trump just claimed the war is "over"?

Probably to clear the strait of Iranian mines, duh.

Yeah, right.

This is so sick.

I feel so badly for those proud Americans who signed up to fight to protect their country.

Here, they are protecting Israel. And they are protecting the billionaires including Trump who what to steal Iran's oil.

Iran poses no direct threat to the US. Our soldiers should not be sent to die in this undeclared war that's begun by Trump as a distraction from Epstein.

I have family in the military. They did NOT sign up for this.

What a bizarrely naive comment. They’re not “protecting Israel.” The US (and other countries) are trying to open the Strait so that oil can be supplied around the world. Why is the strait closed? Because Iran chose to lay its mines there. Take it up with Iran.

You’re naive. The US has been bombing and destroying Iran and Iran closed the strait to get the US to stop. Nothing was happening to the US to make US start killing Iranians. On the other side Israel has been destroying Beirut, pretending it’s about Hamas, but it’s not. It’s about taking their land. Don’t be gullible.

Is that why 40 countries have rebuked Iran for laying mines in the Strait and blocking ships, as well as demanding Iran open the Strait back up? Huh, interesting.

DP You just can not help yourself can you? The strait is open just have to make a deal with the Iranians and pay some money. Oh and there are no mines. Ships who have made deals go through the strait every day. If there were mines ships would be sinking. That is how mines work.

I love how you, a random troll, thinks you speak with more authority than you know, the people who actually know what's going on. Please educate yourself before opening your mouth and wasting everyone's time. Iran has left a path open to ships willing to pay a toll. The US Navy has a map of the mine-laden areas and are working to clear them because Iran is too incompetent to do it themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/how-the-us-could-clear-mines-from-the-strait-of-hormuz/ar-AA212QoU?ocid=BingNewsSerp
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/16/strait-of-hormuz-mines-iran-us
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/4/13/what-do-we-know-about-sea-mines-in-and-around-the-strait-of-hormuz

How is Iran incompetent if they have mines that scare American ships? I don’t believe they have any mines. Other ships would be unable to cross successfully if there are underwater mines.

I believe America just is too proud to pay Iran the toll and really fears a hypersonic or ballistic missile sinking the ship just like they’ve sunk many planes and drones. We are even lower on naval supply.

This country is a joke. All that money spent on defense but we have nothing in our coffers. We are being robbed of top shelf supply by that tiny nation that can’t fight or protect itself

You have been provided with multiple sources (multiple times) explaining to you what the situation is. Iran laid mines that it now doesn't have the capabilities to find, so other countries have to do the job for them. When chastised about opening the strait, they did manage to provide a map of a safe route through the strait for those ships who want to attempt it. In the meantime, the U.S. has several minesweeping ships in the area to do Iran's cleanup for them. I mean, are you unable to read?

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Anonymous wrote:Iran's Foreign Minister just reported that, in line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the Strait of Hormuz is open. No, I did not see the tweet. It was just reported on CNBC Squawkbox.

True. And he also noted that ships have to follow a set path due to the mines. Iran's ships and ports will still be blockaded.

“In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire,” Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi announced on X. He added that ships must follow routes coordinated by Iran’s Ports and Maritime Organization.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/17/iran-war-strait-of-hormuz-open-00878387

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Anonymous wrote:Iran's Foreign Minister just reported that, in line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the Strait of Hormuz is open. No, I did not see the tweet. It was just reported on CNBC Squawkbox.

With or without a toll?

They will keep the toll. Which is only right. They were attacked. The important questions are will Israel’s proxies in the regime be disarmed, Israel turn over its nuclear weapons and give up long range strike capabilities?

You are comical. I mean, seriously comical.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran's Foreign Minister just reported that, in line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the Strait of Hormuz is open. No, I did not see the tweet. It was just reported on CNBC Squawkbox.

What a lesson Iran learned from all this. Whether they intended to build a nuclear weapon or not (no evidence they did), they have now learned to concentrate military assets on the Strait. They're FAR more powerful coming out of this.

Yeah Iran walked away significantly advantaged from all this. Trump gave the hardliners a huge advantage here.

Reporting is US will pay Iran $20 billion as part of the deal. I don’t want to hear about “pallets of cash” from another MAGA ever again

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/17/iran-us-deal-20-billion-frozen-funds-uranium

At least quote honestly from your own source. That $20 billion is frozen Iranian assets. It's not U.S. money. It's a great deal in return for Iran giving up its uranium.

"the U.S. would release $20 billion in frozen Iranian funds in return for Iran giving up its stockpile of enriched uranium"