Head of School at National Child Research Center (NCRC) - Arrest warrant issued

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents would pressure other parents to bring their kids to school less than 24 hours after the news broke. That’s really messed up. And exactly the kind of peer dynamics that let institutions off the hook.

It wasn’t pressure in the sense of something evil, as you might imagine. It was more like, “No, you should bring your kids. The teachers and the school need our support,” repeated constantly. There were many text messages encouraging parents to bring their children. In the end, I think more parents decided to keep their kids at home anyway.

The teachers needed time to stay home and process the terrible news too. I can’t believe they were asked to come back the very next day.

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. I read the statute and the complaint, and I don't think the behavior detailed in the complaint fits the statute. I'm sure it must violate child exploitation laws, but the statute cited doesn't seem to cover adults encouraging other adults to abuse children. Am I missing something? I hope he's behind bars for the rest of his life, so please don't misinterpret what I'm saying. And I know the FBI may find evidence of other things. I'm just talking about what was needed to get the arrest warrant.
-A lawyer

See United States v. McMillan. The Court of Appeals held the evidence was sufficient convict him because the statute extends to prosecution of adult-to-adult communications that are designed to persuade a minor to commit the forbidden acts. The Court agreed with six other circuits that have so held, declining to read the statute as narrowly as argued by McMillan. The statute not only prohibits actual persuasion of the minor, but also attempts to persuade and the best way to persuade a minor to commit an act is to enlist the help of a trusted friend, relative, or associate.

Thank you!!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very possible he just wasn’t into preschool children. Nobody has touched on this aspect but didn’t he post a pic of two teenage boys, so his perversion may have a particular type.

Per the complaint the image was of 2 PRE-PUBESCENT boys. Be accurate.

8. Your affiant found that Discord had reported one file of suspected CSAM to
NCMEC, which had been reviewed by a Discord employee prior to submission to NCMEC. The file was provided to your affiant by NCMEC and reviewed by your affiant.

9. Your affiant observed that the file displayed two naked prepubescent boys lying on
a piece of furniture. One of boys is observed nude from his head to knees with his penis exposed to the viewer. Both boys are looking at the exposed penis and it appears to be the focal point of the image.

10. Discord reported that the user that had uploaded the image, CIRCUMCISEDLONDONGAY#0, had been registered on June 9, 2023, with an AT&T telephone…

NOT teens. Pre-pubescent.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what the obsession is over BVR (and even allegations against STA and NCS) on this thread and not a single mention of Concord Hill. It’s clear there are posters with a grip against the Cathedral schools. This man hasn’t been on the close since 2008 and no allegations of misconduct have been made about made against him during that time. Why is it more likely to have happened at BVR and not CH?

He created the discord account while at bvr. That info is 3 days old so we have no idea the damage done while he was there. But it’s likely not great. He was at CH for only 1 year and was interviewing mid year. And well the creepy Toth 3rd grade connection at bvr. And the working relationship he continued to have with bvr while at ncrc too- when he left CH he was done.

He was at bvr for 10 years, ncrc since 2018. While at ncrc since 2018 he was talking, meeting with and visiting with bvr constantly. CH connection def not great but the bvr and ncrc damage seems so much worse.

I doubt he had access to kids at BVR though after he left. He may have used his computer there which is gross but if he was there it would have been to meet with admissions people.

He worked at BVR until 2016.

There is no evidence in the affidavit that he ever used his computer at Beauvoir (though obviously he did when he worked there). Beauvoir is only mentioned one time in the affidavit and that is in connection to the school's address being used on his AT&T mobile phone account.

He did work there though until 2016 as he was the outplacement director for us.

I understand. But the affidavit does not cover any activities from that time period. Posters keep suggesting that he engaged in his nefarious activities at Beauvoir. He may have, but there has been no evidence of that so far.

I certainly hope not as I just found out he was meeting with kids alone as outplacement director despite the previous head saying teachers and staff were NOT allowed alone with kids as a safety measure post Toth…..

He was outplacement director for my kids at Beauvoir.

I will add we had no red flags about him at all. We love Beauvoir and are not looking to blame them or anyone. He kept up a very British professional manner and I would not have guessed any of it.

Most parents aren’t educated about recognizing the red flags.

I am particularly interested in the phenomenon where cops, prosecutors, and other experts say there are ways to know but not ways to know all the time therefore anyone could be capable of this but then internet posters who “DONE THEIR RESEARCH” are so adamant that everyone is just dumb or uninformed if they couldn’t see this coming.

I said uneducated. Why not change that?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents would pressure other parents to bring their kids to school less than 24 hours after the news broke. That’s really messed up. And exactly the kind of peer dynamics that let institutions off the hook.

It wasn’t pressure in the sense of something evil, as you might imagine. It was more like, “No, you should bring your kids. The teachers and the school need our support,” repeated constantly. There were many text messages encouraging parents to bring their children. In the end, I think more parents decided to keep their kids at home anyway.

The teachers needed time to stay home and process the terrible news too. I can’t believe they were asked to come back the very next day.

I wouldn’t be at all concerned about the teachers or the school needing support.

The children and their families will live with this forever. Shame on the school and everyone there who saw there was something off about him, and said nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people lose complete perspective in this area. It’s horrible this happened and everyone can agree on that, including NCRC, but to act like it’s this rampant problem with males in preschools isn’t true.
We have 3000 preschools in metro area, and lots of guys work at these schools. One or two cases, as evil as they were, does not mean that males shouldn’t work with children.
It’s not a common thing here, so get a grip, people.

One or two? You have no idea about what you are talking about.

What do you plan on doing when your child goes to Elementary school and lots of guys work there?

I make sure I chose a school that either never had this problem, or did but manage it perfectly fine and have a reputation to not put things under the rug. And I make sure they have a good policy, no hugs with teachers, nobody alone with a child…

Never that you know of. The school could either have had zero issues, which is what you see, or the school could have covered up every single one to make it invisible and it would appear the same to you. The latter is what my school did. It wasn’t that there was less abuse or no abuse, it was that it was covered up so well every single time.

THIS. Never voice any potential abuse to the school. You’ll REGRET it. Always go straight to the POLICE to report your concerns. They’ll decide how to proceed.

I guess this is why NCRC still hasn't commented on how to navigate the potential that our children are victims?

In all seriousness - why would NCRC parents need this spelled out them? It should be obvious.

The HOS is an extreme pervert.

He had access to your child in some capacity.

A logical next step is to start the difficult process of determining if your child was abused.

This is best handled by a pediatrician or the police, not the school who has little to no interest in abuse being uncovered. I don’t see what their role is.

Ok, self-appointed wise person who has no familiarity with NCRC: Tell us all about that access. Because, as most NCRC parents know, JC was generally in his office doing HOS stuff, while kids were in busy classrooms with multiple teachers. Kids are rarely alone with a single teacher, except some maybe for OT; kids are very, very rarely alone with the HOS.

I almost wonder if moving from classroom teacher to outplacement to HOS were self-protective moves on his part.

Please stop the BS! When a child was late. Mr. Eric usually took the child to the classroom, but if another child was also late, JC would take over. Some classrooms were on the ground floor and safe, while others were on the second floor—or even in the treetop class. Mr. Eric or JC would use the back door and take the stairs where nobody could see them.

You think abuse was happening during 3 minutes on a stairwell that other people can use? I suppose it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.

Agree with PP. The PP before this needs to stop. There are cameras in the entrance that show when you arrive, cameras in the stairwells that make everything visible, and cameras in the classroom that show when the child makes it there. IF (and that’s a big “if”) there is any wrongdoing in the building with actual students, it will come to light.

Until then, hug your children and take a deep breath.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people lose complete perspective in this area. It’s horrible this happened and everyone can agree on that, including NCRC, but to act like it’s this rampant problem with males in preschools isn’t true.
We have 3000 preschools in metro area, and lots of guys work at these schools. One or two cases, as evil as they were, does not mean that males shouldn’t work with children.
It’s not a common thing here, so get a grip, people.

One or two? You have no idea about what you are talking about.

What do you plan on doing when your child goes to Elementary school and lots of guys work there?

I make sure I chose a school that either never had this problem, or did but manage it perfectly fine and have a reputation to not put things under the rug. And I make sure they have a good policy, no hugs with teachers, nobody alone with a child…

Never that you know of. The school could either have had zero issues, which is what you see, or the school could have covered up every single one to make it invisible and it would appear the same to you. The latter is what my school did. It wasn’t that there was less abuse or no abuse, it was that it was covered up so well every single time.

THIS. Never voice any potential abuse to the school. You’ll REGRET it. Always go straight to the POLICE to report your concerns. They’ll decide how to proceed.

I guess this is why NCRC still hasn't commented on how to navigate the potential that our children are victims?

In all seriousness - why would NCRC parents need this spelled out them? It should be obvious.

The HOS is an extreme pervert.

He had access to your child in some capacity.

A logical next step is to start the difficult process of determining if your child was abused.

This is best handled by a pediatrician or the police, not the school who has little to no interest in abuse being uncovered. I don’t see what their role is.

Ok, self-appointed wise person who has no familiarity with NCRC: Tell us all about that access. Because, as most NCRC parents know, JC was generally in his office doing HOS stuff, while kids were in busy classrooms with multiple teachers. Kids are rarely alone with a single teacher, except some maybe for OT; kids are very, very rarely alone with the HOS.

I almost wonder if moving from classroom teacher to outplacement to HOS were self-protective moves on his part.

Please stop the BS! When a child was late. Mr. Eric usually took the child to the classroom, but if another child was also late, JC would take over. Some classrooms were on the ground floor and safe, while others were on the second floor—or even in the treetop class. Mr. Eric or JC would use the back door and take the stairs where nobody could see them.

You think abuse was happening during 3 minutes on a stairwell that other people can use? I suppose it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.

Agree with PP. The PP before this needs to stop. There are cameras in the entrance that show when you arrive, cameras in the stairwells that make everything visible, and cameras in the classroom that show when the child makes it there. IF (and that’s a big “if”) there is any wrongdoing in the building with actual students, it will come to light.

Until then, hug your children and take a deep breath.

The school allowed a creepy man to mingle among children.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

The parents should be pulling their children if they get anything less than a full mea culpa and mandatory reporting training for every adult working and volunteering on campus. The board failed your children.

OSSE already requires a mandatory reporter training for all faculty and staff in a childcare setting (such as a preschool like NCRC)

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You are absolutely right! I am a former parent at NCRC, and I can tell you that people keep their children in a bubble that doesn’t exist. Everyone is so nice, and the world feels like Disney. On top of that, while the school has a strong focus on social-emotional learning, any time a parent raises a concern, it’s dismissed almost immediately. I’m talking about issues like annoying behavior between kids, concerns about new students’ behavior, or even teachers hugging children (WTF?).

It also seems like NCRC tries to calm parents’ emotions over the last scandal, almost to the point of dismissal. Nobody has been violent or anything, but when parents express worries, it’s met with responses like, ‘No, no, please stay calm,’ even when nobody is yelling. It’s so hypocritical—they teach kids to express themselves through social-emotional learning, but when parents try to voice concerns, they’re brushed off. It’s a mess!

People there are overly nice, it is kind of a protection. How to be critical to someone who is so nice. Parents have to wake up.

Okay. We are also a former NCRC family and raised a concern about a teacher hugging our kid. Our kid never makes things up and is very descriptive about her day. We told the school and there was zero follow up. This person wasn’t even my kid’s teacher! We chose not to re-enroll after that year. What was your experience raising concerns?

Would love to know more about this

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

And you don’t know anyone did suspect anything. So perhaps you should…

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Isn’t it ridiculous that the school is still considering which independent inspector to hire? Why they need that much time?

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I am a former NCRC parent. I thought Mr. Carroll was simply a bit aloof in a British sort of way. Despite that, he greeted me and my child each day with a smile and spoke to us regularly. He was genuinely helpful to our family with outplacement as we sorted through our choices. I am beyond horrified that any child was in the presence of such a grotesque and demented monster. It is honestly traumatizing to read the complaint and realize that while a school full of children was in his care he was in his office in the building actively seeking to harm other children. It is deeply upsetting to wonder what harm he has caused over the years that hasn't come to light yet. I find myself having nightmares about him. Honestly, this reinforces my atheism.

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Anonymous wrote:His colleague placed cameras in the bathrooms at BVR. Are you ok with that, PP?

Of course I'm not! But that was his colleague 15 years ago. And if he did it now, the sweep would find them. What Toth did at Beauvoir long ago is not a reason not to send a child to NCRC today. What whacko logic.

What makes you so confident that there are no cameras in the school today? Esp. In the bathrooms?

IF they have done a sweep, I would trust that. And you'll have a fit over this, but, honestly, to me that sort of camera is smoke, not the fire -- a child would likely never know the difference is they are filmed. There could be video taken surreptiously of any of us or our children out there on the Internet and we don't know.

I feel so badly for your children

Different poster. She’s right that it can happen to anyone, anywhere. I saw a story about hidden cameras in hotel rooms.
What do you do? Remove your kid from every school where this may have happened? It can happen with coaches. Stop letting your kids play sports now. It can happen anywhere and I’m sure Ncrc is crushed by this but what more can the parents do? It can happen at any school, as evil people are everywhere.

This problem is handled swiftly in public schools in our region, not covered up as in this and the colleague’s case. There are protocols that all certified teachers and administrators must follow which is why you see stories in the press when predators are outed. It doesn’t take over a decade.

Is this supposed to be a funny joke?

https://moco360.media/2024/11/19/former-mcps-teacher-sexually-abusing/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/montgomery-county-to-pay-9-7m-to-damascus-high-school-sex-assault-victims/3433319/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/former-montgomery-county-teacher-convicted-of-sex-abuse-out-of-prison-as-he-awaits-new-trial/3425678/

PARENT ALERT—

If you ever suspect anything concerning, report directly to your local police department. Never approach school administration, as they notoriously immediately launch a cover-up to protect themselves.

FYI—
It’s not your job to provide actual evidence. You report suspicions, trained detectives do the investigation.

ALWAYS listen to your gut. And to your child.