Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

Anonymous
another earthquake today? this IS Lost!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?
Anonymous
Would it be crazy if the earthquake shifted tectonic plates in the ocean and the plane, assuming it is at the sea floor, fell between two plates and then was covered up by the shifting plates?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?


Also wondered why PP's religion mattered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?


Also wondered why PP's religion mattered.


+2

That was a really weird question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?


Yes, and I was just curious, sorry if I offended you
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Would it be crazy if the earthquake shifted tectonic plates in the ocean and the plane, assuming it is at the sea floor, fell between two plates and then was covered up by the shifting plates?


Yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?


Yes, and I was just curious, sorry if I offended you


Not offended, just curious about why you asked. BTW, I know a lot of Catholics who say "God willing" - it's not a sure indicator of religious affiliation.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What does occalm's razor say about all this?


Occam's. if you're going to try to sound erudite, at least get the correct reference. That wasn't a typo or a keystroke error -- you don't know what you're talking about.

And the answer is: Occam's Razor stipulates that it crashed in the ocean.


How is this the simplest explanation when evidence shows no debris and indicated hours of pinging after disappearance? Plus we know a person intentionally turned off communications systems.

Given those things I think the simplest explanation is someone stole the plane - which does NOT necessarily suggest that it is in the ocean.


That would be the Occams razor assumption -- someone, probably the pilot (leaving out assuming someone else could fly the plane) continued to fly the plane. Also, if assuming the pilot, could also land the plane. Fewest assumptions.


They are not assumptions. They have been reported as facts. Someone turned off the communications systems. The aircraft flew for HOURS after that. It is a fact, not an assumption, that within that 7 hour range there is not only ocean, but land.

You are assuming an awful lot to conclude an ocean crash. You are assuming one or some of the following: Mechanical problem, pilot error, pilot suicide, none of which we have specific evidence for.


The investigation is developing and certain assumptions are germane since they might very well be proved true with specific evidence later.


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does occalm's razor say about all this?


Occam's. if you're going to try to sound erudite, at least get the correct reference. That wasn't a typo or a keystroke error -- you don't know what you're talking about.

And the answer is: Occam's Razor stipulates that it crashed in the ocean.


How is this the simplest explanation when evidence shows no debris and indicated hours of pinging after disappearance? Plus we know a person intentionally turned off communications systems.

Given those things I think the simplest explanation is someone stole the plane - which does NOT necessarily suggest that it is in the ocean.


That would be the Occams razor assumption -- someone, probably the pilot (leaving out assuming someone else could fly the plane) continued to fly the plane. Also, if assuming the pilot, could also land the plane. Fewest assumptions.


They are not assumptions. They have been reported as facts. Someone turned off the communications systems. The aircraft flew for HOURS after that. It is a fact, not an assumption, that within that 7 hour range there is not only ocean, but land.

You are assuming an awful lot to conclude an ocean crash. You are assuming one or some of the following: Mechanical problem, pilot error, pilot suicide, none of which we have specific evidence for.


The investigation is developing and certain assumptions are germane since they might very well be proved true with specific evidence later.


That's not the point. We are talking about Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is the best hypothesis. An ocean crash is not the simplest explanation given the other evidence.

Occam's razor discourages assumptions. Someone turning off the communications devices and flying in a new direction for hours is not an assumption, it is fact. Therefore, the simplest explanation is that someone stole this plane. There is little evidence of an ocean crash.

All speculation, all creative thinking is needed in a case like this. But this PP is telling people to be "erudite" in referring to Occam's Razor and then, IMHO, is misapplying the rule. Read more about Occam's Rqazor here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
Anonymous
Based on the evidence presented I have narrowed it down to:

Hijacking by the pilot(s) who wanted the intact plane
Hijacking by a pilot who was on board as a passenger who wanted the intact plane
Pilot suicide - crash into the ocean
Mechanical failure - crash into the ocean
Cabin depressurization - flew until fuel gone then crashed
Terrorist act -plane and passengers being held someone and ransom will be asked for at some point
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To summarize the theories presented so far:

Hijacking by the pilot(s) who wanted the intact plane
Hijacking by a pilot who was on board as a passenger who wanted the intact plane
Pilot suicide - crash into the ocean
Mechanical failure - crash into the ocean
Cabin depressurization - flew until fuel gone then crashed
Terrorist act -plane and passengers being held someone and ransom will be asked for at some point


Snort. Fixed that for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peter King's theory doesn't make sense. Why go through all of the flying maneuvers he/they went through in order to simply land in the ocean to commit suicide? No, given what's being reported about eyewitnesses who observed the plane's flying maneuvers as it went low and off-course, the intent seems to have been to preserve the airplane.

God willing, the passengers are still alive and reasonably well, wherever they are.


Are you Muslim?


I'm Catholic. Are you inferring I'm Muslim because I use the phrase, "God willing"? Also, why does it matter what my religion is?


Yes, and I was just curious, sorry if I offended you


Not offended, just curious about why you asked. BTW, I know a lot of Catholics who say "God willing" - it's not a sure indicator of religious affiliation.


I was curious because i am & usually only hear the phrase amongst Muslims
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To summarize the theories presented so far:

Hijacking by the pilot(s) who wanted the intact plane
Hijacking by a pilot who was on board as a passenger who wanted the intact plane
Pilot suicide - crash into the ocean
Mechanical failure - crash into the ocean
Cabin depressurization - flew until fuel gone then crashed
Terrorist act -plane and passengers being held someone and ransom will be asked for at some point


Snort. Fixed that for you.


I was being facetious - 'evidence' is so vague that every possible explanation is still on the table!
Anonymous
It is Ok to post a link to something obscure (like to pilots talk), but just to repost that the pilots said All right, good night or whatever is not very interesting. Please keep posting interesting links. Like I thought this was:
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/students-theory-mas-mh370-goes-viral-20140312
because everyone kept referring to it.
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