Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will probably benefit my DD who is a March birthday, but she and her rec coach are upset because more than half the team is going to have to be replaced with different players. These are girls that he has trained for 5 years now and are part of the once-cohesive team. Now he'll be with a whole different group of girls. Plus the other girls will have to move to a different coach on a new team, and will probably be split up between different coaches.

Why not just have the younger kids "play up" and keep the same team together?

If coach has been training the same girls for 5 years they are getting to the point where having a few U10's playing alongside U11's in the U11 age group is not going to condemn the team to the bottom of the league.

I had my rec team play up a year this past year just to make sure that we did lose some games (your kids will learn much more from losing 3-2 then they will from winning 5-0).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

I could be wrong, but I think the "Your kid still sucks" poster was joking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

Did you read the condescending comment the person is replying to?

I'm guessing they said it to poke that a@@hole!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

I could be wrong, but I think the "Your kid still sucks" poster was joking.

Yes. It's good to see somebody with a brain and a sense of humor is present. Comment was in direct response to the a-hole who is wallowing in people's concern. But--the kids really do play up so the rule change is irrelevant to my late bday kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

I could be wrong, but I think the "Your kid still sucks" poster was joking.

Yes. It's good to see somebody with a brain and a sense of humor is present. Comment was in direct response to the a-hole who is wallowing in people's concern. But--the kids really do play up so the rule change is irrelevant to my late bday kids.

Thought so! I thought your response was very funny, but I thought the initial comment was amusing too. Though this thread has gotten very focused on kindergartners the last couple of days, many of us have been annoyed through the years by the parents who brag about how fabulous their (older elementary school aged) kids are without stopping to think about the fact that being 11 months older and significantly larger than everyone else may play a role. Pretty normal to indulge in a bit of schadenfreude when the tables are turned. Like that poster, I'm not saying it's right, but it is pretty understandable.

[Anonymous]

+100000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's wrong of me to enjoy the way parents with children born between August and December have been reacting to the birth-year switch, not on this board but in real life, especially over the past couple of days when all the lost maturity effect advantages have really sunk in. I'm a bad person. Pathetic.

Your kid still sucks. Mine already play up.

Insults aside, I don't really get this comment. Why would someone whose kid is already playing up take the time to lash out about the rule change? If the kid is happy and challenged, why is this poster so angry -- angry enough to say someone else's child "sucks"?

I understand the concerns about kindergartners having to play against first-graders, but I don't understand a lot of the anger from parents/coaches with older players. Our thinking is becoming distorted here. The PP is flaming people *for no reason.*

I could be wrong, but I think the "Your kid still sucks" poster was joking.

Yes. It's good to see somebody with a brain and a sense of humor is present. Comment was in direct response to the a-hole who is wallowing in people's concern. But--the kids really do play up so the rule change is irrelevant to my late bday kids.

Please stop replying to your own comments. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

I found what I thought was a very good statement on the age group changes from a VYSA rep on the NCSL website: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/home/892286.html I pasted some of the relevant parts below. He describes the process VYSA will go through to work with member programs and families to implement the transition, including holding a series of district meetings to discuss the changes.


"This change means the 8/1 - 12/31 age players on teams move up and the 1/1 - 7/31 players stay down. The mandate does not mean players may not play up. Playing up allows the clubs and leagues to make decisions in their local environments that are necessary for success. The first administrative action should be to review all your rosters and identify the impact on your teams. When speaking to parents, communicate this is not a decision over which you have control, it was decided by US Soccer and it is the rule for all of youth soccer in the US and then listen to the concerns of your people. The reactions will run the gamut of negative response immediately to asking questions and listening, and some will accept it right away. When you speak about it, always state your club is going to put the needs of the players first and each individual situation will be evaluated for all the within the framework. Tell them implementing change is a process and the club be continually evaluating the process through this year and the next. You can play players up, but you just cannot play players down. Players are played up now on teams because is the right choice for the player's development. Do what you need to do make it work for your people, your club, or your league in the local environment.

During this year if your club or league has training which is not team oriented, set the age groups by birth year. If possible, hold event type games (scrimmages) with the age groups as birth years. Expose the players and the parents to the next year's potential team mates. The parents are a critical piece in your success. All of us involved in soccer with children playing develop social circles within the teams. This factor will not be expressed by parents, but it is very relevant, just left unsaid. The leaders of the clubs and leagues should brain storm additional ideas to expose the parents and players in your local environment.

US Soccer mandated the initiatives to further the development of the players in the US. VYSA is looking forward to holding district meetings in the state to assist, discuss, and help our members through a successful transition. The district meetings will bring forth additional ideas from those in your local area that will assist everyone. I am personally looking forward to meeting with you and a successful implementation."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I found what I thought was a very good statement on the age group changes from a VYSA rep on the NCSL website: http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/home/892286.html I pasted some of the relevant parts below. He describes the process VYSA will go through to work with member programs and families to implement the transition, including holding a series of district meetings to discuss the changes.


"This change means the 8/1 - 12/31 age players on teams move up and the 1/1 - 7/31 players stay down. The mandate does not mean players may not play up. Playing up allows the clubs and leagues to make decisions in their local environments that are necessary for success. The first administrative action should be to review all your rosters and identify the impact on your teams. When speaking to parents, communicate this is not a decision over which you have control, it was decided by US Soccer and it is the rule for all of youth soccer in the US and then listen to the concerns of your people. The reactions will run the gamut of negative response immediately to asking questions and listening, and some will accept it right away. When you speak about it, always state your club is going to put the needs of the players first and each individual situation will be evaluated for all the within the framework. Tell them implementing change is a process and the club be continually evaluating the process through this year and the next. You can play players up, but you just cannot play players down. Players are played up now on teams because is the right choice for the player's development. Do what you need to do make it work for your people, your club, or your league in the local environment.

During this year if your club or league has training which is not team oriented, set the age groups by birth year. If possible, hold event type games (scrimmages) with the age groups as birth years. Expose the players and the parents to the next year's potential team mates. The parents are a critical piece in your success. All of us involved in soccer with children playing develop social circles within the teams. This factor will not be expressed by parents, but it is very relevant, just left unsaid. The leaders of the clubs and leagues should brain storm additional ideas to expose the parents and players in your local environment.

US Soccer mandated the initiatives to further the development of the players in the US. VYSA is looking forward to holding district meetings in the state to assist, discuss, and help our members through a successful transition. The district meetings will bring forth additional ideas from those in your local area that will assist everyone. I am personally looking forward to meeting with you and a successful implementation."

That will be interesting since our Club just made a bunch of August birthdays drop down to the next age group (they threw in the ability to play for the top team). Wonder what they plan to do next season---they have to throw them back up..do they go back to the team they dropped down from? It's all very curious.

[Anonymous]

This is great. My son is June and I'm so excited

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is great. My son is June and I'm so excited

Weird.

Do you think his birthdate bestows spectacular ball skill? You know soccer is not size-dependent like Football and Basketball. Some of the best players in are league are the tiniest.

[Anonymous]

Will this change affect high school teams at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great. My son is June and I'm so excited

Weird.

Do you think his birthdate bestows spectacular ball skill? You know soccer is not size-dependent like Football and Basketball. Some of the best players in are league are the tiniest.

Some of the best players of all time were short:

Pele 5'8"
Maradona 5'5"
Messi 5'6"

Shorter players have a lower center of gravity, making it much easier to dribble, make fakes and feints, and change direction.

Never underestimate the toughness of a short player. These players are usually tougher and more physical than taller players.

Raw size is just not the important except for the keeper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will this change affect high school teams at all?

Not at all.