Seriously with the book banning ?

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Anonymous wrote:the greatest triumph the left has achieved in this debate is convincing people to use the word "ban"

schools and libraries do not ban, they CHOOSE - what to include and what not to

GOVERNMENTS ban


Sadly that will continue to use the word "ban". They know they are being dishonest when they do it but they don't care. There are zero cases in this country of books being banned. Anywhere.


Cool. So teachers everywhere are allowed to bring in the book about a crayon or the graphic version of Anne Frank's diary into their classroom? School libraries in every state can stock Toni Morrison's Beloved and Ta-Nahesi Coates' Between the World and Me? Great news!

“I mean they should be fired if they do that, but it’s not banned, we swear.” - fascists
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What if they bring TKAM which Dems banned?
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If you’d get arrested for showing the material to your subordinates at the office, it’s wrong to show children at public schools.

How easy is that?

You think you’d get fired for showing this to your employees?








https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the greatest triumph the left has achieved in this debate is convincing people to use the word "ban"

schools and libraries do not ban, they CHOOSE - what to include and what not to

GOVERNMENTS ban


Sadly that will continue to use the word "ban". They know they are being dishonest when they do it but they don't care. There are zero cases in this country of books being banned. Anywhere.


Cool. So teachers everywhere are allowed to bring in the book about a crayon or the graphic version of Anne Frank's diary into their classroom? School libraries in every state can stock Toni Morrison's Beloved and Ta-Nahesi Coates' Between the World and Me? Great news!


No. If it is not approved, it is the responsibility of the teacher to seek approval. If it is denied, and he/she still uses it..... he/she should be terminated for insubordination.
That's the way things work.
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Anonymous wrote:What if they bring TKAM which Dems banned?

“Dems” in the 1960s frequently means “the white supremacist Republicans of today.”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the greatest triumph the left has achieved in this debate is convincing people to use the word "ban"

schools and libraries do not ban, they CHOOSE - what to include and what not to

GOVERNMENTS ban


Sadly that will continue to use the word "ban". They know they are being dishonest when they do it but they don't care. There are zero cases in this country of books being banned. Anywhere.


Cool. So teachers everywhere are allowed to bring in the book about a crayon or the graphic version of Anne Frank's diary into their classroom? School libraries in every state can stock Toni Morrison's Beloved and Ta-Nahesi Coates' Between the World and Me? Great news!


No. If it is not approved, it is the responsibility of the teacher to seek approval. If it is denied, and he/she still uses it..... he/she should be terminated for insubordination.
That's the way things work.

You’re describing a ban, genius.
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Anonymous wrote:“A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class. Per a report from KFDM confirmed by a spokesperson for Hamshire-Fannett ISD, located south of Beaumont. While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.”

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php


Let's get the facts straight here....

The book the teacher read was not The Diary of Anne Frank, it was Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation.

chron.com/news/houston-t…

Which includes a depiction of molestation.

x.com/HollyBriden/st…

The teacher asked students to discuss the molestation
outlookindia.com/international/…


Yes let’s get it straight. The nudes depicted in the comic are pictures of classical statues. Completely ridiculous.


Not appropriate:

The controversial assignment came to light when students were asked to read a passage from the "unapproved" book during class, which prompted concerns from parents. The specific text in question was a diary entry written by Anne Frank, the young Jewish girl who documented her experiences hiding from Nazis in an attic in the German-occupied Netherlands during World War II. This passage contained explicit descriptions of male and female genitalia, according to reports reportedThe mother of twin brothers in the eighth-grade class, Amy Manuel, expressed her dismay, stating that her sons came home and disclosed that the teacher had made them read the sexually explicit passage aloud. Manuel said, "I mean it's bad enough she's having them read this for an assignment, but then she also is making them read it aloud and making a little girl talk about feeling each other's breasts and when she sees a female she goes into ecstasy, that's not OK."


I disagree. I think it’s fine. I remember reading Ethan Frome and talking about the significance and symbolism of the shriveled cucumber over the door. I think it was 9th grade. A 14 year old should be able to read an extremely tame passage about a peer having emotions and questions about their body.
Nothing graphic is depicted. The parent sheltering their little lamb from this material is raising a boy that can’t have a mature discussion about sex. And we wonder why boys have trouble with consent… it’s difficult to talk about consent, if discussing sex is so incredibly stigmatized.

Nope. You’re nuts. There are thousands of books a teacher can choose that won’t make kids and parents uncomfortable. Your kids can read this at home.


Who knows these days. There's a school district that banned a photograph of the statue of David. Another one is banning Anne Frank. There is a school district that banned the Paperbag Princess. It's a freaking board book! It's a story about a princess who rescues a prince while wearing a paper bag. The prince is ungrateful because she is underdressed. That's it! FFS people.
they are not banning Anne Frank they are punishing a teacher who used an unauthorized book, a graphic novel about Anne Frank. Her diary was not a. Graphic novel

It was on a summer reading list, so it was not unauthorized.


It was unauthorized.

A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class.
While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php

The controversy surrounding this incident is compounded by the fact that the illustrated and unabridged version of "Anne Frank's Diary" was included on a reading list distributed to parents at the beginning of the school year, even though it was never officially approved by district officials. This revelation has prompted the school district to launch an investigation into the oversight.

https://www.outlookindia.com/international/us/texas-middle-school-teacher-fired-after-assigning-graphic-novel-adaptation-of-anne-frank-news-319306


So, how does a book appear on a reading list you might ask?
Either a committee of teachers or some "curriculum specialist" added the book without the knowledge of administration. I know. I used to work in this field. Hopefully, the investigation will find how that happened.


More concerned that the book has been banned. That’s the concern.


I haven't read it but the reviews on Amazon seem to make it clear why the book was not approved. It is abridged, like most graphic novels are, and also includes new material that Anne's father had censored in the originally published diary, mostly pertaining to her sexual fantasies about girls, boys, and statues. Those were apparently a part of her diary that her father removed - they may be an appropriate part of a modern coming of age book but could easily be left out of the story as it has generally been told.


Being abridged is a ridiculous reason to ban something.
Also: super cool with her voice not being censored by the literal patriarchy.
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Anonymous wrote:“A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class. Per a report from KFDM confirmed by a spokesperson for Hamshire-Fannett ISD, located south of Beaumont. While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.”

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php


Let's get the facts straight here....

The book the teacher read was not The Diary of Anne Frank, it was Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation.

chron.com/news/houston-t…

Which includes a depiction of molestation.

x.com/HollyBriden/st…

The teacher asked students to discuss the molestation
outlookindia.com/international/…


Yes let’s get it straight. The nudes depicted in the comic are pictures of classical statues. Completely ridiculous.


Not appropriate:

The controversial assignment came to light when students were asked to read a passage from the "unapproved" book during class, which prompted concerns from parents. The specific text in question was a diary entry written by Anne Frank, the young Jewish girl who documented her experiences hiding from Nazis in an attic in the German-occupied Netherlands during World War II. This passage contained explicit descriptions of male and female genitalia, according to reports reportedThe mother of twin brothers in the eighth-grade class, Amy Manuel, expressed her dismay, stating that her sons came home and disclosed that the teacher had made them read the sexually explicit passage aloud. Manuel said, "I mean it's bad enough she's having them read this for an assignment, but then she also is making them read it aloud and making a little girl talk about feeling each other's breasts and when she sees a female she goes into ecstasy, that's not OK."


I disagree. I think it’s fine. I remember reading Ethan Frome and talking about the significance and symbolism of the shriveled cucumber over the door. I think it was 9th grade. A 14 year old should be able to read an extremely tame passage about a peer having emotions and questions about their body.
Nothing graphic is depicted. The parent sheltering their little lamb from this material is raising a boy that can’t have a mature discussion about sex. And we wonder why boys have trouble with consent… it’s difficult to talk about consent, if discussing sex is so incredibly stigmatized.

Nope. You’re nuts. There are thousands of books a teacher can choose that won’t make kids and parents uncomfortable. Your kids can read this at home.


Who knows these days. There's a school district that banned a photograph of the statue of David. Another one is banning Anne Frank. There is a school district that banned the Paperbag Princess. It's a freaking board book! It's a story about a princess who rescues a prince while wearing a paper bag. The prince is ungrateful because she is underdressed. That's it! FFS people.
they are not banning Anne Frank they are punishing a teacher who used an unauthorized book, a graphic novel about Anne Frank. Her diary was not a. Graphic novel

It was on a summer reading list, so it was not unauthorized.


It was unauthorized.

A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class.
While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php

The controversy surrounding this incident is compounded by the fact that the illustrated and unabridged version of "Anne Frank's Diary" was included on a reading list distributed to parents at the beginning of the school year, even though it was never officially approved by district officials. This revelation has prompted the school district to launch an investigation into the oversight.

https://www.outlookindia.com/international/us/texas-middle-school-teacher-fired-after-assigning-graphic-novel-adaptation-of-anne-frank-news-319306


So, how does a book appear on a reading list you might ask?
Either a committee of teachers or some "curriculum specialist" added the book without the knowledge of administration. I know. I used to work in this field. Hopefully, the investigation will find how that happened.


More concerned that the book has been banned. That’s the concern.


I haven't read it but the reviews on Amazon seem to make it clear why the book was not approved. It is abridged, like most graphic novels are, and also includes new material that Anne's father had censored in the originally published diary, mostly pertaining to her sexual fantasies about girls, boys, and statues. Those were apparently a part of her diary that her father removed - they may be an appropriate part of a modern coming of age book but could easily be left out of the story as it has generally been told.


Being abridged is a ridiculous reason to ban something.
Also: super cool with her voice not being censored by the literal patriarchy.


Nah, I don't think being abridged is meaningful one way or the other, I just mentioned it for completeness' sake. As for the "patriarchy", I guess it depends on whether you think it's more important in school to focus on her and her coming-of-age story or focus on her in the context of the times. Kids in middle school read a lot of coming-of-age stories from various perspectives already so tbh one more isn't that valuable, but rather imo her particular perspective is the reason to read the book. I also think the issue of words-vs-pictures is at play here too. Why are the students reading a graphic novel rather than the book, either the original or the updated version?

I also understand there were some details of the particular assignment that were objected to. Firing the teacher seems a bit much to me, just telling her not to assign that lesson or book again seems like a more appropriate course of action.
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If you’d get arrested for showing the material to your subordinates at the office, it’s wrong to show children at public schools.

How easy is that?

You think you’d get fired for showing this to your employees?








https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

So bring genderqueer to your office and show the oral sex pictures
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Anonymous wrote:We understand the goal here.....

It is an effort to normalize trans, sexual promiscuity, pedophilia, and other behaviors that have been traditionally unaccepted.

The good news is that most of the public doesn't approve of this nonsense. And, the one good thing to come out of the pandemic is that parents were alerted to the crap being fed to their kids and are now paying more attention.


Did you just equate sex without marriage and trans to pedophilia?

Yes, you did. And that is why nothing you say should be taken seriously because you are either an imbecile or a fraud. Possibly both.

Yes, you did. And that is why nothing you say should be taken seriously because you are either an imbecile or a fraud. Possibly both.

When any of these things are being promoted to children as "normal," yes.... they are all bad.


Thanks for clearing up that you were not a fraud.
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Anonymous wrote:“A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class. Per a report from KFDM confirmed by a spokesperson for Hamshire-Fannett ISD, located south of Beaumont. While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.”

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php


Let's get the facts straight here....

The book the teacher read was not The Diary of Anne Frank, it was Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation.

chron.com/news/houston-t…

Which includes a depiction of molestation.

x.com/HollyBriden/st…

The teacher asked students to discuss the molestation
outlookindia.com/international/…


Yes let’s get it straight. The nudes depicted in the comic are pictures of classical statues. Completely ridiculous.


Not appropriate:

The controversial assignment came to light when students were asked to read a passage from the "unapproved" book during class, which prompted concerns from parents. The specific text in question was a diary entry written by Anne Frank, the young Jewish girl who documented her experiences hiding from Nazis in an attic in the German-occupied Netherlands during World War II. This passage contained explicit descriptions of male and female genitalia, according to reports reportedThe mother of twin brothers in the eighth-grade class, Amy Manuel, expressed her dismay, stating that her sons came home and disclosed that the teacher had made them read the sexually explicit passage aloud. Manuel said, "I mean it's bad enough she's having them read this for an assignment, but then she also is making them read it aloud and making a little girl talk about feeling each other's breasts and when she sees a female she goes into ecstasy, that's not OK."


I disagree. I think it’s fine. I remember reading Ethan Frome and talking about the significance and symbolism of the shriveled cucumber over the door. I think it was 9th grade. A 14 year old should be able to read an extremely tame passage about a peer having emotions and questions about their body.
Nothing graphic is depicted. The parent sheltering their little lamb from this material is raising a boy that can’t have a mature discussion about sex. And we wonder why boys have trouble with consent… it’s difficult to talk about consent, if discussing sex is so incredibly stigmatized.

Nope. You’re nuts. There are thousands of books a teacher can choose that won’t make kids and parents uncomfortable. Your kids can read this at home.


Who knows these days. There's a school district that banned a photograph of the statue of David. Another one is banning Anne Frank. There is a school district that banned the Paperbag Princess. It's a freaking board book! It's a story about a princess who rescues a prince while wearing a paper bag. The prince is ungrateful because she is underdressed. That's it! FFS people.
they are not banning Anne Frank they are punishing a teacher who used an unauthorized book, a graphic novel about Anne Frank. Her diary was not a. Graphic novel

It was on a summer reading list, so it was not unauthorized.


It was unauthorized.

A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class.
While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php

The controversy surrounding this incident is compounded by the fact that the illustrated and unabridged version of "Anne Frank's Diary" was included on a reading list distributed to parents at the beginning of the school year, even though it was never officially approved by district officials. This revelation has prompted the school district to launch an investigation into the oversight.

https://www.outlookindia.com/international/us/texas-middle-school-teacher-fired-after-assigning-graphic-novel-adaptation-of-anne-frank-news-319306


So, how does a book appear on a reading list you might ask?
Either a committee of teachers or some "curriculum specialist" added the book without the knowledge of administration. I know. I used to work in this field. Hopefully, the investigation will find how that happened.


More concerned that the book has been banned. That’s the concern.


I haven't read it but the reviews on Amazon seem to make it clear why the book was not approved. It is abridged, like most graphic novels are, and also includes new material that Anne's father had censored in the originally published diary, mostly pertaining to her sexual fantasies about girls, boys, and statues. Those were apparently a part of her diary that her father removed - they may be an appropriate part of a modern coming of age book but could easily be left out of the story as it has generally been told.


Being abridged is a ridiculous reason to ban something.
Also: super cool with her voice not being censored by the literal patriarchy.


Nah, I don't think being abridged is meaningful one way or the other, I just mentioned it for completeness' sake. As for the "patriarchy", I guess it depends on whether you think it's more important in school to focus on her and her coming-of-age story or focus on her in the context of the times. Kids in middle school read a lot of coming-of-age stories from various perspectives already so tbh one more isn't that valuable, but rather imo her particular perspective is the reason to read the book. I also think the issue of words-vs-pictures is at play here too. Why are the students reading a graphic novel rather than the book, either the original or the updated version?

I also understand there were some details of the particular assignment that were objected to. Firing the teacher seems a bit much to me, just telling her not to assign that lesson or book again seems like a more appropriate course of action.


Surely you are capable seeing a difference in the merit of specific curriculum isn’t what is being discussed here. This is about a teacher that was fired for assigning a book, that has been a staple of English classes for a generation.
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If you’d get arrested for showing the material to your subordinates at the office, it’s wrong to show children at public schools.

How easy is that?

You think you’d get fired for showing this to your employees?








https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

So bring genderqueer to your office and show the oral sex pictures


Dp- has that been assigned reading at any school? Ever?
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Anonymous wrote:“A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class. Per a report from KFDM confirmed by a spokesperson for Hamshire-Fannett ISD, located south of Beaumont. While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.”

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php


Let's get the facts straight here....

The book the teacher read was not The Diary of Anne Frank, it was Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation.

chron.com/news/houston-t…

Which includes a depiction of molestation.

x.com/HollyBriden/st…

The teacher asked students to discuss the molestation
outlookindia.com/international/…


Yes let’s get it straight. The nudes depicted in the comic are pictures of classical statues. Completely ridiculous.


Not appropriate:

The controversial assignment came to light when students were asked to read a passage from the "unapproved" book during class, which prompted concerns from parents. The specific text in question was a diary entry written by Anne Frank, the young Jewish girl who documented her experiences hiding from Nazis in an attic in the German-occupied Netherlands during World War II. This passage contained explicit descriptions of male and female genitalia, according to reports reportedThe mother of twin brothers in the eighth-grade class, Amy Manuel, expressed her dismay, stating that her sons came home and disclosed that the teacher had made them read the sexually explicit passage aloud. Manuel said, "I mean it's bad enough she's having them read this for an assignment, but then she also is making them read it aloud and making a little girl talk about feeling each other's breasts and when she sees a female she goes into ecstasy, that's not OK."


I disagree. I think it’s fine. I remember reading Ethan Frome and talking about the significance and symbolism of the shriveled cucumber over the door. I think it was 9th grade. A 14 year old should be able to read an extremely tame passage about a peer having emotions and questions about their body.
Nothing graphic is depicted. The parent sheltering their little lamb from this material is raising a boy that can’t have a mature discussion about sex. And we wonder why boys have trouble with consent… it’s difficult to talk about consent, if discussing sex is so incredibly stigmatized.

Nope. You’re nuts. There are thousands of books a teacher can choose that won’t make kids and parents uncomfortable. Your kids can read this at home.


Who knows these days. There's a school district that banned a photograph of the statue of David. Another one is banning Anne Frank. There is a school district that banned the Paperbag Princess. It's a freaking board book! It's a story about a princess who rescues a prince while wearing a paper bag. The prince is ungrateful because she is underdressed. That's it! FFS people.
they are not banning Anne Frank they are punishing a teacher who used an unauthorized book, a graphic novel about Anne Frank. Her diary was not a. Graphic novel

It was on a summer reading list, so it was not unauthorized.


It was unauthorized.

A Texas middle school teacher has been fired after assigning an unapproved illustrated version of Anne Frank's Diary to her eighth grade reading class.
While district officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary was not approved, it was included on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year, KFDM reports.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-teacher-anne-frank-fired-18375331.php

The controversy surrounding this incident is compounded by the fact that the illustrated and unabridged version of "Anne Frank's Diary" was included on a reading list distributed to parents at the beginning of the school year, even though it was never officially approved by district officials. This revelation has prompted the school district to launch an investigation into the oversight.

https://www.outlookindia.com/international/us/texas-middle-school-teacher-fired-after-assigning-graphic-novel-adaptation-of-anne-frank-news-319306


So, how does a book appear on a reading list you might ask?
Either a committee of teachers or some "curriculum specialist" added the book without the knowledge of administration. I know. I used to work in this field. Hopefully, the investigation will find how that happened.


More concerned that the book has been banned. That’s the concern.


I haven't read it but the reviews on Amazon seem to make it clear why the book was not approved. It is abridged, like most graphic novels are, and also includes new material that Anne's father had censored in the originally published diary, mostly pertaining to her sexual fantasies about girls, boys, and statues. Those were apparently a part of her diary that her father removed - they may be an appropriate part of a modern coming of age book but could easily be left out of the story as it has generally been told.


Being abridged is a ridiculous reason to ban something.
Also: super cool with her voice not being censored by the literal patriarchy.


Nah, I don't think being abridged is meaningful one way or the other, I just mentioned it for completeness' sake. As for the "patriarchy", I guess it depends on whether you think it's more important in school to focus on her and her coming-of-age story or focus on her in the context of the times. Kids in middle school read a lot of coming-of-age stories from various perspectives already so tbh one more isn't that valuable, but rather imo her particular perspective is the reason to read the book. I also think the issue of words-vs-pictures is at play here too. Why are the students reading a graphic novel rather than the book, either the original or the updated version?

I also understand there were some details of the particular assignment that were objected to. Firing the teacher seems a bit much to me, just telling her not to assign that lesson or book again seems like a more appropriate course of action.


Surely you are capable seeing a difference in the merit of specific curriculum isn’t what is being discussed here. This is about a teacher that was fired for assigning a book, that has been a staple of English classes for a generation.


Are we aiming for accuracy in this discussion? Or just emoting?
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Anonymous wrote:the greatest triumph the left has achieved in this debate is convincing people to use the word "ban"

schools and libraries do not ban, they CHOOSE - what to include and what not to

GOVERNMENTS ban


Public schools and public libraries are part of the government. Did you miss that lesson in school?

The right has always loved banning books and knowledge and information that it perceives as a threat to its extremism. Can't have the free circulation of ideas!


silly response

does that therefore mean that public schools and libraries must provide access to every book ever published? of course not

you can still buy whatever you want on Amazon - if the government tells Amazon and other outlets to stop selling something, now that would be a BAN
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If you’d get arrested for showing the material to your subordinates at the office, it’s wrong to show children at public schools.

How easy is that?

You think you’d get fired for showing this to your employees?








https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

So bring genderqueer to your office and show the oral sex pictures


Dp- has that been assigned reading at any school? Ever?


way to move the goalposts

as long as it's not formally assigned, it's fine to have in the library? even Mein Kampf?
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