Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.


Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher


The file part is the county requiring that for K-2 this year. I'm not thrilled with that.

I am thrilled with knowing my kids' teachers pay attention to my kids well-being and are able to tell me how it looks at school. I just don't need every teacher in the future, administrators, and who knows who all else able to see the notes.


Yes that is ridiculous. Can parents of K-2 kids opt out of that? So glad my youngest is in third and not subject to that!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.


Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher


The file part is the county requiring that for K-2 this year. I'm not thrilled with that.

I am thrilled with knowing my kids' teachers pay attention to my kids well-being and are able to tell me how it looks at school. I just don't need every teacher in the future, administrators, and who knows who all else able to see the notes.


Yes that is ridiculous. Can parents of K-2 kids opt out of that? So glad my youngest is in third and not subject to that!


Yeah, you can opt out, just like you can opt out of the form for 3-12.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.


Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher


The file part is the county requiring that for K-2 this year. I'm not thrilled with that.

I am thrilled with knowing my kids' teachers pay attention to my kids well-being and are able to tell me how it looks at school. I just don't need every teacher in the future, administrators, and who knows who all else able to see the notes.


Yes that is ridiculous. Can parents of K-2 kids opt out of that? So glad my youngest is in third and not subject to that!


Yeah, you can opt out, just like you can opt out of the form for 3-12.


I bet teachers are appreciative of the opt outs in K-2. Less work for them!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.


Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher


The file part is the county requiring that for K-2 this year. I'm not thrilled with that.

I am thrilled with knowing my kids' teachers pay attention to my kids well-being and are able to tell me how it looks at school. I just don't need every teacher in the future, administrators, and who knows who all else able to see the notes.


Yes that is ridiculous. Can parents of K-2 kids opt out of that? So glad my youngest is in third and not subject to that!


Yeah, you can opt out, just like you can opt out of the form for 3-12.


I bet teachers are appreciative of the opt outs in K-2. Less work for them!


I wonder if teachers will still do the assessment for K-2 even if they don't do the write-up. I'm actually hesitant to opt-out even though I don't want the write-up on file because I still want the teacher paying attention to my kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?


One concern is that the "file" is used when deciding any discipline. So if your child gets in trouble at school, the SEL screener is reviewed. If Larla is accused of bullying and said on the SEL screener that she doesn't often think about other people's feelings, then that's used against her. Another concern is that it's used for interventions. If the school doesn't like the way students answer certain questions, those kids can now be pulled for interventions to correct whatever the school feels was answered the wrong way.

The SEL screener results will be maintained just like the SOL scores, grades, etc. The language they use about data collection is the language used under FERPA, which controls what's an educational record and how it has to be dealt with.

This isn't just some touchy-feely survey with the results getting tossed after the school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?


One concern is that the "file" is used when deciding any discipline. So if your child gets in trouble at school, the SEL screener is reviewed. If Larla is accused of bullying and said on the SEL screener that she doesn't often think about other people's feelings, then that's used against her. Another concern is that it's used for interventions. If the school doesn't like the way students answer certain questions, those kids can now be pulled for interventions to correct whatever the school feels was answered the wrong way.

The SEL screener results will be maintained just like the SOL scores, grades, etc. The language they use about data collection is the language used under FERPA, which controls what's an educational record and how it has to be dealt with.

This isn't just some touchy-feely survey with the results getting tossed after the school year.


This is our main concern. We don’t want our kids being flagged for possible intervention or having to miss class to do these interventions. If they answer a question outside the norm, what will other teachers think when they review their files? Could it reflect poorly on our parenting? It colors their perception of our kids.
Anonymous
Parents should really band together and tell the administration to back off big time on the whole SEL push.

They keep making us teach lessons we're absolutely not trained to deliver. I teach STEM, not psych.

My students hate (with a big H) the SEL lessons because they want to use that period to get their homework done and to relax a bit. The lessons are canned, preachy, unconvincing and embarrassingly contrived powerpoints.

And after an entire year of delivering these once a week, our school has no soap in the boys' bathrooms because kids have broken and keep breaking all the soap holders off the walls.

Anonymous
Believe it or not, you’re child’s info will not only stay at the FCPS level but can also be transmitted to Fairfax County police department and CPS or FFX Cty Social Services databases



Mental health records should never be in the possession of schools, law enforcement and other federal or state agencies

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, you’re child’s info will not only stay at the FCPS level but can also be transmitted to Fairfax County police department and CPS or FFX Cty Social Services databases



Mental health records should never be in the possession of schools, law enforcement and other federal or state agencies



+1 how are other parents not concerned about this??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Parents should really band together and tell the administration to back off big time on the whole SEL push.

They keep making us teach lessons we're absolutely not trained to deliver. I teach STEM, not psych.

My students hate (with a big H) the SEL lessons because they want to use that period to get their homework done and to relax a bit. The lessons are canned, preachy, unconvincing and embarrassingly contrived powerpoints.

And after an entire year of delivering these once a week, our school has no soap in the boys' bathrooms because kids have broken and keep breaking all the soap holders off the walls.



I feel this way about most pushes the schools make. Anti-bullying isn’t working. Based on all the football incidents last year anti-racism isn’t working. Maybe *gasp* schools are not the best places for kids to learn these things-or at least not through stuff that feels like horrible corporate training.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Parents should really band together and tell the administration to back off big time on the whole SEL push.

They keep making us teach lessons we're absolutely not trained to deliver. I teach STEM, not psych.

My students hate (with a big H) the SEL lessons because they want to use that period to get their homework done and to relax a bit. The lessons are canned, preachy, unconvincing and embarrassingly contrived powerpoints.



+1000

They are ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents should really band together and tell the administration to back off big time on the whole SEL push.

They keep making us teach lessons we're absolutely not trained to deliver. I teach STEM, not psych.

My students hate (with a big H) the SEL lessons because they want to use that period to get their homework done and to relax a bit. The lessons are canned, preachy, unconvincing and embarrassingly contrived powerpoints.

And after an entire year of delivering these once a week, our school has no soap in the boys' bathrooms because kids have broken and keep breaking all the soap holders off the walls.



I feel this way about most pushes the schools make. Anti-bullying isn’t working. Based on all the football incidents last year anti-racism isn’t working. Maybe *gasp* schools are not the best places for kids to learn these things-or at least not through stuff that feels like horrible corporate training.


I know! Please just let me teach my content area. I am not psychologist or social worker.
Anonymous
Opt-out deadline is Friday, people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Opt-out deadline is Friday, people.


There is a deadline for opting out? How is that legal?
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