Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want teachers making “observations” of my child’s mental health.

They will do this regardless (and for most teachers that’s a good thing). They just won’t put it in your children’s file.

No they don’t. They don’t sit down at recess and write notes on your child. They don’t communicate to parents about their students’ mental health. Ask me how I know.

+1 they are not allowed to suggest or diagnose anything to parents.

I'm the teacher who originally wrote about making notes at recess. I don't know about others, but my notes were for me. They enabled me to be sure I was paying attention to each child. (The children who "act out" obviously get attention. The ones who are quiet sometimes can go under the radar.
These were not notes that went anywhere but to my own keeping. The notes were for me. They were not observations on "mental health" --they were observations on participation. Some kids need time along and that is okay. But, if that child is always alone and seems afraid to interact, that is a problem and the teacher should pay attention.

Also, do you think teachers aren't concerned about kids who seem unhappy? You don't want the teacher to notice? Are you the same parent who comes to school and complains because your child is being bullied and the teacher did nothing?

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

[Anonymous]

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

Who said anything about sitting and taking notes? You pick three or four kids to make notes on--doesn't take a minute to say that "Josie is playing by herself--seems happy." "Johnny is getting a little rough with Mike--had to step in. Mike was upset." "Sissy is watching others play. Not trying to join in."

This isn't like a specialist coming in and sitting in the back of your classroom and making detailed notes about behavior of one student. It is just being sure that you aren't ignoring problems. Of course, you always pay attention to the behavior problems--too rough, etc. This is just to be sure that you aren't ignoring the ones that are left out. It also helps to know how many times you have to step in on the rough ones before you contact the parents.
Mike an
Most of the time, the notes are just "Susie and Mary jumping rope together." "Henry and Joe are playing soccer."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

Who said anything about sitting and taking notes? You pick three or four kids to make notes on--doesn't take a minute to say that "Josie is playing by herself--seems happy." "Johnny is getting a little rough with Mike--had to step in. Mike was upset." "Sissy is watching others play. Not trying to join in."

This isn't like a specialist coming in and sitting in the back of your classroom and making detailed notes about behavior of one student. It is just being sure that you aren't ignoring problems. Of course, you always pay attention to the behavior problems--too rough, etc. This is just to be sure that you aren't ignoring the ones that are left out. It also helps to know how many times you have to step in on the rough ones before you contact the parents.
Mike an
Most of the time, the notes are just "Susie and Mary jumping rope together." "Henry and Joe are playing soccer."

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

[Anonymous]

This is why we opted out. We don’t need our kids worrying about this ridiculous survey and having it in their file.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want teachers making “observations” of my child’s mental health.

They will do this regardless (and for most teachers that’s a good thing). They just won’t put it in your children’s file.

No they don’t. They don’t sit down at recess and write notes on your child. They don’t communicate to parents about their students’ mental health. Ask me how I know.

+1 they are not allowed to suggest or diagnose anything to parents.

I'm the teacher who originally wrote about making notes at recess. I don't know about others, but my notes were for me. They enabled me to be sure I was paying attention to each child. (The children who "act out" obviously get attention. The ones who are quiet sometimes can go under the radar.
These were not notes that went anywhere but to my own keeping. The notes were for me. They were not observations on "mental health" --they were observations on participation. Some kids need time along and that is okay. But, if that child is always alone and seems afraid to interact, that is a problem and the teacher should pay attention.

Also, do you think teachers aren't concerned about kids who seem unhappy? You don't want the teacher to notice? Are you the same parent who comes to school and complains because your child is being bullied and the teacher did nothing?

As the parent of a couple of quiet kids, I thank you for doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

Who said anything about sitting and taking notes? You pick three or four kids to make notes on--doesn't take a minute to say that "Josie is playing by herself--seems happy." "Johnny is getting a little rough with Mike--had to step in. Mike was upset." "Sissy is watching others play. Not trying to join in."

This isn't like a specialist coming in and sitting in the back of your classroom and making detailed notes about behavior of one student. It is just being sure that you aren't ignoring problems. Of course, you always pay attention to the behavior problems--too rough, etc. This is just to be sure that you aren't ignoring the ones that are left out. It also helps to know how many times you have to step in on the rough ones before you contact the parents.
Mike an
Most of the time, the notes are just "Susie and Mary jumping rope together." "Henry and Joe are playing soccer."

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

As a HS teacher, I agree. ES teachers shouldn’t do this. It’s creepy; they aren’t trained to do it; and kids could shouldn’t have a psychosocial “profile” in their file that follows them to the upper grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want teachers making “observations” of my child’s mental health.

They will do this regardless (and for most teachers that’s a good thing). They just won’t put it in your children’s file.

No they don’t. They don’t sit down at recess and write notes on your child. They don’t communicate to parents about their students’ mental health. Ask me how I know.

+1 they are not allowed to suggest or diagnose anything to parents.

I'm the teacher who originally wrote about making notes at recess. I don't know about others, but my notes were for me. They enabled me to be sure I was paying attention to each child. (The children who "act out" obviously get attention. The ones who are quiet sometimes can go under the radar.
These were not notes that went anywhere but to my own keeping. The notes were for me. They were not observations on "mental health" --they were observations on participation. Some kids need time along and that is okay. But, if that child is always alone and seems afraid to interact, that is a problem and the teacher should pay attention.

Also, do you think teachers aren't concerned about kids who seem unhappy? You don't want the teacher to notice? Are you the same parent who comes to school and complains because your child is being bullied and the teacher did nothing?

Do you really need to take notes, though? Can’t you just observe and remember? Unless you are building documentation for a report to Child Support Services, the note taking seems excessive and invasive. I am a HS teacher so I know I have many more students than you but I don’t need notes to remember who is exhibiting behaviors that indicate unhappiness or distress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

Who said anything about sitting and taking notes? You pick three or four kids to make notes on--doesn't take a minute to say that "Josie is playing by herself--seems happy." "Johnny is getting a little rough with Mike--had to step in. Mike was upset." "Sissy is watching others play. Not trying to join in."

This isn't like a specialist coming in and sitting in the back of your classroom and making detailed notes about behavior of one student. It is just being sure that you aren't ignoring problems. Of course, you always pay attention to the behavior problems--too rough, etc. This is just to be sure that you aren't ignoring the ones that are left out. It also helps to know how many times you have to step in on the rough ones before you contact the parents.
Mike an
Most of the time, the notes are just "Susie and Mary jumping rope together." "Henry and Joe are playing soccer."

Agree.

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

[Anonymous]

What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?

This will go down on your permanent record.

-Violent Femmes

[Anonymous]

I opted my kids out. One is in high school, the other in middle. I have the same concerns as others -- it looks like they are looking for problems!

[Anonymous]

FYI, each school has a different method for opting out. Contact your own school if you don't know how to opt out. (Someone upthread had said to opt out by emailing the principal, at our school it was someone else to contact with a from filled out.)

[Anonymous]

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You’re supposed to be standing and watching the kids at recess, not sitting taking notes and observing one particular kid.

Who said anything about sitting and taking notes? You pick three or four kids to make notes on--doesn't take a minute to say that "Josie is playing by herself--seems happy." "Johnny is getting a little rough with Mike--had to step in. Mike was upset." "Sissy is watching others play. Not trying to join in."

This isn't like a specialist coming in and sitting in the back of your classroom and making detailed notes about behavior of one student. It is just being sure that you aren't ignoring problems. Of course, you always pay attention to the behavior problems--too rough, etc. This is just to be sure that you aren't ignoring the ones that are left out. It also helps to know how many times you have to step in on the rough ones before you contact the parents.
Mike an
Most of the time, the notes are just "Susie and Mary jumping rope together." "Henry and Joe are playing soccer."

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

As a HS teacher, I agree. ES teachers shouldn’t do this. It’s creepy; they aren’t trained to do it; and kids could shouldn’t have a psychosocial “profile” in their file that follows them to the upper grades.

+1 Yes!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve never heard of teachers doing this. And I still don’t want notes about my kid. Let alone something in their file.

Who said anything about a file?

What paranoid parents to object to a teacher would want to make brief notations about the behavior of kids in the class. The purpose? To help the kids and ensure that no child goes unnoticed.

You are probably the same parent who gets angry when you think that your kid is being bullied.

I've also had parents tell me that Susie says no one will play with her.-----when Susie plays with the same two girls every day.

Teacher

The file part is the county requiring that for K-2 this year. I'm not thrilled with that.

I am thrilled with knowing my kids' teachers pay attention to my kids well-being and are able to tell me how it looks at school. I just don't need every teacher in the future, administrators, and who knows who all else able to see the notes.