Loudoun County School Board meeting descends into absolute chaos

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Anonymous wrote:Black Americans have been demonized in the U.S. in every sphere of life, culture, media for centuries. By white people! Now, the same is not ok? Tsk, Tsk, tsk...
Not only demonized, subhumanized, but you can't take what you give?

White people aren’t even being demonized! I realize that to the right “hey, maybe you were wrong about this” is equivalent to treason and murder, though.

If Fox/OANN/Newsmax told these people to wear nothing but diapers in public just to Own The Libs, they’d do it without question.

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Guess what color the people were who sold the slaves to the British.

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Anonymous wrote:Black Americans have been demonized in the U.S. in every sphere of life, culture, media for centuries. By white people! Now, the same is not ok? Tsk, Tsk, tsk...
Not only demonized, subhumanized, but you can't take what you give?

White people aren’t even being demonized! I realize that to the right “hey, maybe you were wrong about this” is equivalent to treason and murder, though.

If Fox/OANN/Newsmax told these people to wear nothing but diapers in public just to Own The Libs, they’d do it without question.

Of course they are not, I was just making a point. Snowflake whiners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess what color the people were who sold the slaves to the British.

Guess what? Ghana teachers their kids about their slave trade!

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DP. We were able to see classes this past year. We could watch our kids' virtual classes and what was taught. And yes, there were some trial classes where the teaching was that White people are oppressors and colonizers.

Teachers may not intend to divide the students against each other. But that's the effect.

I’m very curious about the context for this. Care to share?

What they saw was probably just a run of the mill history class that covered factual evidence about how white people (especially rich white males) have, in fact, used their systemic power to oppress others in order to preserve their own positional wealth and privilege. It’s not a secret that this happened and any child reading a thorough American history book will see the pattern for themselves.

Personally, I find it insulting that instead of wanting our children to have a thorough understanding of our history (good bad and otherwise), some people are willing to literally demand censorship. Our kids are not dumb. They also have access to the internet. They’re going to figure it out at some point regardless of what they learn in school.

It’s the framing of history almost exclusively through a racial lens biased against Whites that is unacceptable, unless accompanied by information also pointing out how other societies have also protected the interests of those in other dominant racial and ethnic groups. Critical pedagogy as being implemented now is largely about demonizing White and “White-adjacent” groups for the not-so-subtle purpose of stripping Whites and Asians of power and financial resources. That’s not history; it’s politics.

My child's AAP history book had a photo of a British person being carried on a chair by several "natives." This was a class she took maybe 10 years ago, while in a LCPS high school. She showed me the photo, and we both laughed at the absurdity of the white person. We're white. I don't have a problem with teaching history the way it is. I would, however, have a problem with an anti-white slant. Why on earth would any self respecting white person allow their race to be villified? I would ask the same question regarding any other race. Would AAs allow themselves to be trashed in a modern history book? Hehe, right, that's going to happen. Would South Asians allow themselves to be trashed in a modern history book? Hehe, right, that's going to happen.

What I'm saying is the history books already state actual colonial history. The hate towards any one racial group is unacceptable. Why must one group always be singled out and demonized? The entertainment industry always seems to pick one racial or ethnic group to demonize, for example. All racial groups have abused power at one point or another in history. I don't like the video clips I've been seeing coming out of Israel from the recent past. If it weren't for YouTube, we wouldn't know about some of that stuff. Humans can be brutal towards each other. That's what they should be teaching.

LOL! So you are/were ok with your kid seeing pics of exalted and revered white people, but presenting them in a realistic light, which might be the bad light is not ok? Right!

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Maybe they should all work harder so they can afford private school. Public school isn’t for them.

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Anonymous wrote:What are people freaking out about? Didn't Loudoun commit to opening school in person this fall?

They are freaking out that their children will learn about the role systemic racism has played in our nation’s history.

That is not true.

Loudon is planning to teach children of different skin color to hate each other through a new curriculum/training based on Critical Race Theory (CRT).

The White Supremacists think they can confuse people into believing this is wrong. They specialize in confusing.

Yes, this is what it has all boiled down to.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should all work harder so they can afford private school. Public school isn’t for them.

Yes or move somewhere that the White Supremacy is more out in the open.

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DP. We were able to see classes this past year. We could watch our kids' virtual classes and what was taught. And yes, there were some trial classes where the teaching was that White people are oppressors and colonizers.

Teachers may not intend to divide the students against each other. But that's the effect.

I’m very curious about the context for this. Care to share?

What they saw was probably just a run of the mill history class that covered factual evidence about how white people (especially rich white males) have, in fact, used their systemic power to oppress others in order to preserve their own positional wealth and privilege. It’s not a secret that this happened and any child reading a thorough American history book will see the pattern for themselves.

Personally, I find it insulting that instead of wanting our children to have a thorough understanding of our history (good bad and otherwise), some people are willing to literally demand censorship. Our kids are not dumb. They also have access to the internet. They’re going to figure it out at some point regardless of what they learn in school.

It’s the framing of history almost exclusively through a racial lens biased against Whites that is unacceptable, unless accompanied by information also pointing out how other societies have also protected the interests of those in other dominant racial and ethnic groups. Critical pedagogy as being implemented now is largely about demonizing White and “White-adjacent” groups for the not-so-subtle purpose of stripping Whites and Asians of power and financial resources. That’s not history; it’s politics.

The entire premise of history is learning about how different groups of humans treated each other over time. Politics IS history!

They are different disciplines. If you don't appreciate that, you're part of the problem.

NP: how do you teach history without also teaching the politics of the time? For instance if you are learning about Roosevelt and the New Deal, you learn about 'switch in time saves nine.' That is a political decision but it's also history. I don't see how you separate the two.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should all work harder so they can afford private school. Public school isn’t for them.

Yes or move somewhere that the White Supremacy is more out in the open.

Oh it’s in the open here. This entire scene is white rage absolutely losing it that white supremacy is being challenged. It’s in the fact Omeish is on a recall petition in FCPS because she’s Muslim. It’s here.

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DP. We were able to see classes this past year. We could watch our kids' virtual classes and what was taught. And yes, there were some trial classes where the teaching was that White people are oppressors and colonizers.

Teachers may not intend to divide the students against each other. But that's the effect.

I’m very curious about the context for this. Care to share?

What they saw was probably just a run of the mill history class that covered factual evidence about how white people (especially rich white males) have, in fact, used their systemic power to oppress others in order to preserve their own positional wealth and privilege. It’s not a secret that this happened and any child reading a thorough American history book will see the pattern for themselves.

Personally, I find it insulting that instead of wanting our children to have a thorough understanding of our history (good bad and otherwise), some people are willing to literally demand censorship. Our kids are not dumb. They also have access to the internet. They’re going to figure it out at some point regardless of what they learn in school.

It’s the framing of history almost exclusively through a racial lens biased against Whites that is unacceptable, unless accompanied by information also pointing out how other societies have also protected the interests of those in other dominant racial and ethnic groups. Critical pedagogy as being implemented now is largely about demonizing White and “White-adjacent” groups for the not-so-subtle purpose of stripping Whites and Asians of power and financial resources. That’s not history; it’s politics.

The entire premise of history is learning about how different groups of humans treated each other over time. Politics IS history!

They are different disciplines. If you don't appreciate that, you're part of the problem.

NP: how do you teach history without also teaching the politics of the time? For instance if you are learning about Roosevelt and the New Deal, you learn about 'switch in time saves nine.' That is a political decision but it's also history. I don't see how you separate the two.

You don’t. Everything is political . Demanding we don’t address politics at all, don’t use kids’ pronouns, don’t diversify our curriculum is asking us to be political in our teaching. Those are political choices.

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Let's not pretend that the same people who were crying All Lives Matter and flying thin blue line and Gadsden flags are now all of the sudden concerned with teaching RACISM in schools. These are the children and grandchildren of Loudoun County residents who filled in public pools rather than allow black children to swim in them and homeschooled their children rather than send them to newly integrated publics. I do not for one second believe that there is anything but fear and ignorance at the root of it. I really want to feel proud of our country and grateful to be an American, and there are times I do, but it is certainly never when observing the words and actions of so-called "Patriots".

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So folks are mad because they don't think the fact that tribal leaders sold slaves in Africa is emphasized enough?
I mean sure teach that. It doesn't change the fact that white folks bought them, took them across the ocean, enslaved them, beat them, r@ped them, tortured and abused them. No one would have sold salves if people weren't looking to buy.

I don't understand how you want things like slavery to be taught. Or what about segregation? Jim Crow? How do you want any of that taught. Do you want to bring back old textbooks that talked about the slave trade as immigration or talked about the happy slave?

I need specific examples of ways you think would be appropriate and what is inappropriate because I really don't get this. Do you think teachers are sitting all the white kids on one side of the room and stoning them? Or hurling insults at them until they are full of guilt? Someone who is anti CRT please explain.

[Anonymous]

Why are we even worried about this in elementary. CRT is such a high level academic study that what is being taught in elementary or even high school isn't anywhere close to what CRT theory actually is and is basically just discussing history while discussing racism. . .

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we even worried about this in elementary. CRT is such a high level academic study that what is being taught in elementary or even high school isn't anywhere close to what CRT theory actually is and is basically just discussing history while discussing racism. . .

No matter how many times we say this it doesn’t sink in. That’s beside this is not about actual CRT anymore. CRT is just an easy to repeat acronym that the right has managed to wholly divorce from its origins , the way they now use BLM but don’t actually ever say Black Lives Matter. It’s a hologram for them. It stands for whatever they need to fight against today. It’s anything they don’t like, it’s nothing at all. It’s all a figment of their persecuted little imaginations.