Loudoun County School Board meeting descends into absolute chaos

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we even worried about this in elementary. CRT is such a high level academic study that what is being taught in elementary or even high school isn't anywhere close to what CRT theory actually is and is basically just discussing history while discussing racism. . .

No matter how many times we say this it doesn’t sink in. That’s beside this is not about actual CRT anymore. CRT is just an easy to repeat acronym that the right has managed to wholly divorce from its origins , the way they now use BLM but don’t actually ever say Black Lives Matter. It’s a hologram for them. It stands for whatever they need to fight against today. It’s anything they don’t like, it’s nothing at all. It’s all a figment of their persecuted little imaginations.

Ha, I mean if CRT is really being taught in ES than we should all applaud our school system for being so advanced

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we even worried about this in elementary. CRT is such a high level academic study that what is being taught in elementary or even high school isn't anywhere close to what CRT theory actually is and is basically just discussing history while discussing racism. . .

No matter how many times we say this it doesn’t sink in. That’s beside this is not about actual CRT anymore. CRT is just an easy to repeat acronym that the right has managed to wholly divorce from its origins , the way they now use BLM but don’t actually ever say Black Lives Matter. It’s a hologram for them. It stands for whatever they need to fight against today. It’s anything they don’t like, it’s nothing at all. It’s all a figment of their persecuted little imaginations.

Ha, I mean if CRT is really being taught in ES than we should all applaud our school system for being so advanced

I mean that’s another inconsistency. I swear these people spent March 2020-March 2020 screaming that teachers weren’t teaching and kids weren’t learning. Then suddenly once they were back in buildings we immediately became so effective at teaching we were INDOCTRINATING them? Makes no sense. The only people I’ve ever heard obsessed with the idea that schools indoctrinate their kids are the ones whose parenting and control of their kids hinges on their own indoctrination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So folks are mad because they don't think the fact that tribal leaders sold slaves in Africa is emphasized enough?
I mean sure teach that. It doesn't change the fact that white folks bought them, took them across the ocean, enslaved them, beat them, r@ped them, tortured and abused them. No one would have sold salves if people weren't looking to buy.

I don't understand how you want things like slavery to be taught. Or what about segregation? Jim Crow? How do you want any of that taught. Do you want to bring back old textbooks that talked about the slave trade as immigration or talked about the happy slave?

I need specific examples of ways you think would be appropriate and what is inappropriate because I really don't get this. Do you think teachers are sitting all the white kids on one side of the room and stoning them? Or hurling insults at them until they are full of guilt? Someone who is anti CRT please explain.

The slaves that were bought were prisoners of tribal wars. They weren’t exploited for perverted pleasure, used to for labor for hundreds of years, and suffer all the human rights violations in Africa like what happened here on US soil. But as long as we have proof these things happened, I believe it should all be taught since it is the true history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So folks are mad because they don't think the fact that tribal leaders sold slaves in Africa is emphasized enough?
I mean sure teach that. It doesn't change the fact that white folks bought them, took them across the ocean, enslaved them, beat them, r@ped them, tortured and abused them. No one would have sold salves if people weren't looking to buy.

I don't understand how you want things like slavery to be taught. Or what about segregation? Jim Crow? How do you want any of that taught. Do you want to bring back old textbooks that talked about the slave trade as immigration or talked about the happy slave?

I need specific examples of ways you think would be appropriate and what is inappropriate because I really don't get this. Do you think teachers are sitting all the white kids on one side of the room and stoning them? Or hurling insults at them until they are full of guilt? Someone who is anti CRT please explain.

The slaves that were bought were prisoners of tribal wars. They weren’t exploited for perverted pleasure, used to for labor for hundreds of years, and suffer all the human rights violations in Africa like what happened here on US soil. But as long as we have proof these things happened, I believe it should all be taught since it is the true history.

Why do you think that is not taught? I mean I leaned that in High School. Plus, that was only a small part of it to be honest. But most slaves in America weren't brought over from Africa via the slave trade. Only 600K slaves were transported to the US, or 5% of the 12 million taken from Africa. Of those, about half or 300K were taken to the 13 colonies. But by 1860 there were FOUR million enslaved people in the US. The vast majority of slaves in the US came from the US. So the tribal leaders selling prisoners is only a small part of the story and doesn't absolve what slave owners did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So folks are mad because they don't think the fact that tribal leaders sold slaves in Africa is emphasized enough?
I mean sure teach that. It doesn't change the fact that white folks bought them, took them across the ocean, enslaved them, beat them, r@ped them, tortured and abused them. No one would have sold salves if people weren't looking to buy.

I don't understand how you want things like slavery to be taught. Or what about segregation? Jim Crow? How do you want any of that taught. Do you want to bring back old textbooks that talked about the slave trade as immigration or talked about the happy slave?

I need specific examples of ways you think would be appropriate and what is inappropriate because I really don't get this. Do you think teachers are sitting all the white kids on one side of the room and stoning them? Or hurling insults at them until they are full of guilt? Someone who is anti CRT please explain.

The slaves that were bought were prisoners of tribal wars. They weren’t exploited for perverted pleasure, used to for labor for hundreds of years, and suffer all the human rights violations in Africa like what happened here on US soil. But as long as we have proof these things happened, I believe it should all be taught since it is the true history.

Why do you think that is not taught? I mean I leaned that in High School. Plus, that was only a small part of it to be honest. But most slaves in America weren't brought over from Africa via the slave trade. Only 600K slaves were transported to the US, or 5% of the 12 million taken from Africa. Of those, about half or 300K were taken to the 13 colonies. But by 1860 there were FOUR million enslaved people in the US. The vast majority of slaves in the US came from the US. So the tribal leaders selling prisoners is only a small part of the story and doesn't absolve what slave owners did.

I agree that Black Native Americans were forced into slavery. Most of the descendants of slaves are also native Americans. That isn’t taught. The woman in the Loving case was a Native American for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we even worried about this in elementary. CRT is such a high level academic study that what is being taught in elementary or even high school isn't anywhere close to what CRT theory actually is and is basically just discussing history while discussing racism. . .

No matter how many times we say this it doesn’t sink in. That’s beside this is not about actual CRT anymore. CRT is just an easy to repeat acronym that the right has managed to wholly divorce from its origins , the way they now use BLM but don’t actually ever say Black Lives Matter. It’s a hologram for them. It stands for whatever they need to fight against today. It’s anything they don’t like, it’s nothing at all. It’s all a figment of their persecuted little imaginations.

Ha, I mean if CRT is really being taught in ES than we should all applaud our school system for being so advanced

I mean that’s another inconsistency. I swear these people spent March 2020-March 2020 screaming that teachers weren’t teaching and kids weren’t learning. Then suddenly once they were back in buildings we immediately became so effective at teaching we were INDOCTRINATING them? Makes no sense. The only people I’ve ever heard obsessed with the idea that schools indoctrinate their kids are the ones whose parenting and control of their kids hinges on their own indoctrination.

bingo

If you surveyed these red-white-and-blue buffoons who were hollering the National Anthem at the school board meeting the other day, do you think even one of them could intelligently articulate what was on the table for discussion? It's like they are sentient Skechers programmed by Fox News to start clomping at the sound of a rotating selection of trigger words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The school board has approved curriculum that includes books describing blow jobs for 9th graders. In school. Blowjobs. They need to own that and they don’t want to. You can’t use that word in the school board meeting but it is ok in school? Ok! That makes total sense!!!

Lol such innocence. Yes it is appropriate to learn sex education at 14/15.
I went to high school in the 80s. I had 9th grader friends who did experience at this age with BJs. Wake up. I’m sure consent etc is covered. They are not telling them to get out there and give them.

I learned about blowjobs when I was in 9th grade when I read (not for school) The World According to Garp in which a woman bites off the penis of the man she is having an affair with while giving him a BJ, after the car they are in is accidentally hit from behind by the car her husband is driving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are people freaking out about? Didn't Loudoun commit to opening school in person this fall?

They are freaking out that their children will learn about the role systemic racism has played in our nation’s history.

That is not true.

Loudon is planning to teach children of different skin color to hate each other through a new curriculum/training based on Critical Race Theory (CRT).

Nobody is trying to teach children of different skin colors to hate each other in a school curriculum. I'll grant you there might be parents who teach that to their children at home but you are delusional and not so bright if you believe any school curriculum wants children to hate each other for any reason. You might want to try to get a grip on reality and stop drinking the conservative kool aid.

DP. We were able to see classes this past year. We could watch our kids' virtual classes and what was taught. And yes, there were some trial classes where the teaching was that White people are oppressors and colonizers.

Teachers may not intend to divide the students against each other. But that's the effect.

I can find you plenty of examples TODAY of white people INSISTING things like:

--it was good that the Europeans came to the Americans, the land was not being used and they took advantage of it better than the native Americans
--black people are better off being here than they would have been if they had stayed in Africa
--Western culture is objectively superior to others (e..g, native American, African) because the values of logic, individualism, and science, are superior to values such as nature
--Europeans didn't actually kill most native Americans, they mainly died off from diseases
--cultures fight other cultures all the time and its just native Americans' fault they lost to the superior Europeans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school board has approved curriculum that includes books describing blow jobs for 9th graders. In school. Blowjobs. They need to own that and they don’t want to. You can’t use that word in the school board meeting but it is ok in school? Ok! That makes total sense!!!

Lol such innocence. Yes it is appropriate to learn sex education at 14/15.
I went to high school in the 80s. I had 9th grader friends who did experience at this age with BJs. Wake up. I’m sure consent etc is covered. They are not telling them to get out there and give them.

I learned about blowjobs when I was in 9th grade when I read (not for school) The World According to Garp in which a woman bites off the penis of the man she is having an affair with while giving him a BJ, after the car they are in is accidentally hit from behind by the car her husband is driving.

The book PP is referring to is one kids would have CHOICE to read. Not assigned reading, choice
. Some of these parents are so afraid of their kids choosing a book they don’t approve of they want it removed for ALL kids. And if your kids watch Netflix this is hugely hypocritical anyway. They see it there plenty.

[Anonymous]

Here's the thing with CRT.

The CNNs will tell you "they don't teach CTR in k-12, it's something they teach in law school" or "it's just teaching "real" history"

However, if you start looking at how CTR ideas are applied in school, I think you might question what exactly is being taught in schools - https://www.city-journal.org/christopher-rufo-on-woke-education

I feel like we already lost a lot of control over what our kids are exposed to. Very sexualized content starting as early as 5th grade and up. And now what I'm really concerned with is various children being taught that their "race" is something that might keep them down, no mater what they do.

If the system is racist, and you're black, well of course you'll fail! If you're white, you're definitely guilty of getting an upper hand in society, even if you aren't aware of it!

Then there's the, "if you don't think you're racist or America is racist, then YOU have white fragility!"

Do you see these circular arguments and negative implications of all of this CTR based language will lead to?

YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE MORE RACISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR FOCUS ON RACE!!!

My biggest concern is what type of a message is that for young children. They see a kid doing a fun thing at the park so they go to play with them. Now maybe with all this focus on race, they say, oh he's white/black...and that will be the first lense they view the world through.

Honestly this is rediculous to me, as an Asian. I feel bad for my white friends how they now are casted as evil (even with news articles saying Asian hate crimes are due to white supremacy?!) and I feel bad for my black friends, and especially their kids, who may now have an inferiority complex.

You guys might think these people are nuts, but there's a reason they are upset. I suggest you look into some of the emails and content being circulated and taught as assignments to your kids. You might be surprised and you might not like what you see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with CRT.

The CNNs will tell you "they don't teach CTR in k-12, it's something they teach in law school" or "it's just teaching "real" history"

However, if you start looking at how CTR ideas are applied in school, I think you might question what exactly is being taught in schools - https://www.city-journal.org/christopher-rufo-on-woke-education

I feel like we already lost a lot of control over what our kids are exposed to. Very sexualized content starting as early as 5th grade and up. And now what I'm really concerned with is various children being taught that their "race" is something that might keep them down, no mater what they do.

If the system is racist, and you're black, well of course you'll fail! If you're white, you're definitely guilty of getting an upper hand in society, even if you aren't aware of it!

Then there's the, "if you don't think you're racist or America is racist, then YOU have white fragility!"

Do you see these circular arguments and negative implications of all of this CTR based language will lead to?

YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE MORE RACISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR FOCUS ON RACE!!!

My biggest concern is what type of a message is that for young children. They see a kid doing a fun thing at the park so they go to play with them. Now maybe with all this focus on race, they say, oh he's white/black...and that will be the first lense they view the world through.

Honestly this is rediculous to me, as an Asian. I feel bad for my white friends how they now are casted as evil (even with news articles saying Asian hate crimes are due to white supremacy?!) and I feel bad for my black friends, and especially their kids, who may now have an inferiority complex.

You guys might think these people are nuts, but there's a reason they are upset. I suggest you look into some of the emails and content being circulated and taught as assignments to your kids. You might be surprised and you might not like what you see.

Just bcs you are Asian doesn't mean you are not a racist. Which you just explained to all of us that you are. You are projecting on kids what you think. CRT language you claim is a problem is exactly right and on point. Are you actually arguing that you will create more racists if you focus on teaching how we got here, to be this racist? You sound like an immigrant and as such you are clearly ignorant of race issues in the U.S. Rather than write racist crap as you did above, and scream in all caps, how about your educated yourself on what systemic racism in the United States was and is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with CRT.

The CNNs will tell you "they don't teach CTR in k-12, it's something they teach in law school" or "it's just teaching "real" history"

However, if you start looking at how CTR ideas are applied in school, I think you might question what exactly is being taught in schools - https://www.city-journal.org/christopher-rufo-on-woke-education

I feel like we already lost a lot of control over what our kids are exposed to. Very sexualized content starting as early as 5th grade and up. And now what I'm really concerned with is various children being taught that their "race" is something that might keep them down, no mater what they do.

If the system is racist, and you're black, well of course you'll fail! If you're white, you're definitely guilty of getting an upper hand in society, even if you aren't aware of it!

Then there's the, "if you don't think you're racist or America is racist, then YOU have white fragility!"

Do you see these circular arguments and negative implications of all of this CTR based language will lead to?

YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE MORE RACISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR FOCUS ON RACE!!!

My biggest concern is what type of a message is that for young children. They see a kid doing a fun thing at the park so they go to play with them. Now maybe with all this focus on race, they say, oh he's white/black...and that will be the first lense they view the world through.

Honestly this is rediculous to me, as an Asian. I feel bad for my white friends how they now are casted as evil (even with news articles saying Asian hate crimes are due to white supremacy?!) and I feel bad for my black friends, and especially their kids, who may now have an inferiority complex.

You guys might think these people are nuts, but there's a reason they are upset. I suggest you look into some of the emails and content being circulated and taught as assignments to your kids. You might be surprised and you might not like what you see.

Talking about race does not leads to creating racism. That IS what is ridiculous. Talking about it opens up conversations and hopefully forces us to address prejudices and hopefully make better choices in the future. And what a horrible thing to say that you think that black kids have a inferiority complex because of people addressing racism.

[Anonymous]

CTR creates unhappy people. Keep it up. Make more people miserable, like you. Such a cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CTR creates unhappy people. Keep it up. Make more people miserable, like you. Such a cult.

so if we just don't talk about race and the history of the US as it relates to this, we would all be OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing with CRT.

The CNNs will tell you "they don't teach CTR in k-12, it's something they teach in law school" or "it's just teaching "real" history"

However, if you start looking at how CTR ideas are applied in school, I think you might question what exactly is being taught in schools - https://www.city-journal.org/christopher-rufo-on-woke-education

I feel like we already lost a lot of control over what our kids are exposed to. Very sexualized content starting as early as 5th grade and up. And now what I'm really concerned with is various children being taught that their "race" is something that might keep them down, no mater what they do.

If the system is racist, and you're black, well of course you'll fail! If you're white, you're definitely guilty of getting an upper hand in society, even if you aren't aware of it!

Then there's the, "if you don't think you're racist or America is racist, then YOU have white fragility!"

Do you see these circular arguments and negative implications of all of this CTR based language will lead to?

YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE MORE RACISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR FOCUS ON RACE!!!

My biggest concern is what type of a message is that for young children. They see a kid doing a fun thing at the park so they go to play with them. Now maybe with all this focus on race, they say, oh he's white/black...and that will be the first lense they view the world through.

Honestly this is rediculous to me, as an Asian. I feel bad for my white friends how they now are casted as evil (even with news articles saying Asian hate crimes are due to white supremacy?!) and I feel bad for my black friends, and especially their kids, who may now have an inferiority complex.

You guys might think these people are nuts, but there's a reason they are upset. I suggest you look into some of the emails and content being circulated and taught as assignments to your kids. You might be surprised and you might not like what you see.

Just bcs you are Asian doesn't mean you are not a racist. Which you just explained to all of us that you are. You are projecting on kids what you think. CRT language you claim is a problem is exactly right and on point. Are you actually arguing that you will create more racists if you focus on teaching how we got here, to be this racist? You sound like an immigrant and as such you are clearly ignorant of race issues in the U.S. Rather than write racist crap as you did above, and scream in all caps, how about your educated yourself on what systemic racism in the United States was and is?

Yes, keep calling everyone racist. You use it so much that it doesn’t even mean anything anymore. Bet you are a white sad upper class elite.