Summer League Swim 2021

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Anonymous wrote:I hear Northam said 250 spectators allowed at outdoor sports now

Yes. https://www.wsls.com/sports/2021/02/17/up-to-250-spectators-will-be-able-to-watch-virginia-high-school-football-games-this-season/

Social distancing could be the tricky part.

some pools will be able to manage fine, others with small decks and not much additional land won't even be able to come close

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

ignore that poster (the one who claimed that kids playing outside without masks led to swimming restrictions). she is lunatic.

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Anonymous wrote:NVSL team reps and division coordinators are receiving an email if they haven’t already today.

And that email says.....?

The main part:


Happy 2021 to our NVSL teams, families and sponsors. Many of you have reached out to us over the past several weeks to ask about the status of the upcoming season. We are moving forward with plans for a season. The board is meeting regularly, the seeding committee is hard at work, and we will welcome our team reps to the annual seeding meeting on March 14th.



This is a fluid situation and we are closely monitoring the state and local health guidelines that govern youth sports. These guidelines will help us determine the type of season we are able to have. Our newly formed Return to Competition committee, which is made up of team reps, coaches, division coordinators and board members, will meet regularly throughout the spring to determine how we can hold meets safely this summer. We ask for your patience while we work on the details. We will share more information about the season in the weeks ahead and as guidelines change and decisions are made.

This is promising!!!

I really hope the VDH doesn’t come out with some crazy guidelines again or someone is willing to be more specific about outdoor pool use.

Yes, let’s hope. It was crazy that the VDH lumped indoor and outdoor pools under the same rules last spring/summer. They really wrote the guidance for places like gyms and rec centers. Through phase 2 even family members were supposed to maintain at least 10’ in the water and pool use was restricted to guided instruction or exercise.

Those VDH phase 3 guidelines are still in effect. If you want to see a change, don't count on VDH doing the right thing- write to your state delegate. Keep up the pressure.

While I agree that thoughtful advocacy is indeed important, I also feel we're in a vastly different place now than last spring/summer on all accounts for COVID and VDH has a lot more (valid) data and information to use in their guidance.

I'm personally very very hopeful for a swim season this summer as VA public HS sports are ongoing now and without any major issues to my knowledge. Basketball and wrestling just ended, swim might be finalizing too (I don't track HS swim) and football games in the NoVA area start tomorrow 2/22. Every indication and trend would indicate a much more viable path for a swim season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear Northam said 250 spectators allowed at outdoor sports now

Yes. https://www.wsls.com/sports/2021/02/17/up-to-250-spectators-will-be-able-to-watch-virginia-high-school-football-games-this-season/

Social distancing could be the tricky part.

Thanks for posting this, I hadn't seen it. Does anyone know if this could result in potential increase in spectators at VA public HS events?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NVSL team reps and division coordinators are receiving an email if they haven’t already today.

And that email says.....?

The main part:


Happy 2021 to our NVSL teams, families and sponsors. Many of you have reached out to us over the past several weeks to ask about the status of the upcoming season. We are moving forward with plans for a season. The board is meeting regularly, the seeding committee is hard at work, and we will welcome our team reps to the annual seeding meeting on March 14th.



This is a fluid situation and we are closely monitoring the state and local health guidelines that govern youth sports. These guidelines will help us determine the type of season we are able to have. Our newly formed Return to Competition committee, which is made up of team reps, coaches, division coordinators and board members, will meet regularly throughout the spring to determine how we can hold meets safely this summer. We ask for your patience while we work on the details. We will share more information about the season in the weeks ahead and as guidelines change and decisions are made.

This is promising!!!

I really hope the VDH doesn’t come out with some crazy guidelines again or someone is willing to be more specific about outdoor pool use.

Yes, let’s hope. It was crazy that the VDH lumped indoor and outdoor pools under the same rules last spring/summer. They really wrote the guidance for places like gyms and rec centers. Through phase 2 even family members were supposed to maintain at least 10’ in the water and pool use was restricted to guided instruction or exercise.

Those VDH phase 3 guidelines are still in effect. If you want to see a change, don't count on VDH doing the right thing- write to your state delegate. Keep up the pressure.

While I agree that thoughtful advocacy is indeed important, I also feel we're in a vastly different place now than last spring/summer on all accounts for COVID and VDH has a lot more (valid) data and information to use in their guidance.

I'm personally very very hopeful for a swim season this summer as VA public HS sports are ongoing now and without any major issues to my knowledge. Basketball and wrestling just ended, swim might be finalizing too (I don't track HS swim) and football games in the NoVA area start tomorrow 2/22. Every indication and trend would indicate a much more viable path for a swim season.

HS swim has wrapped up and it went well. I don't know of any issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear Northam said 250 spectators allowed at outdoor sports now

Yes. https://www.wsls.com/sports/2021/02/17/up-to-250-spectators-will-be-able-to-watch-virginia-high-school-football-games-this-season/

Social distancing could be the tricky part.

Thanks for posting this, I hadn't seen it. Does anyone know if this could result in potential increase in spectators at VA public HS events?

👍 I posted the link. The 250 itself is an increase. It could increase if the governor feels conditions allow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

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Sounds like a you problem.

I really hope our pool can open regularly this summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

Teens don’t have parents there. There were way too many kids (of all ages) near the diving board. There were way too many kids socializing together during breaks and on deck. That’s insane to me that the lifeguards can watch an empty pool, sell an ice cream cone, check someone in, but can’t tell kids to back up or only 4 at a time in line for the diving board. I’m not expecting them to go around and police masking all the time but if they police occasional running, they can police occasional overcrowding or mask violations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

Teens don’t have parents there. There were way too many kids (of all ages) near the diving board. There were way too many kids socializing together during breaks and on deck. That’s insane to me that the lifeguards can watch an empty pool, sell an ice cream cone, check someone in, but can’t tell kids to back up or only 4 at a time in line for the diving board. I’m not expecting them to go around and police masking all the time but if they police occasional running, they can police occasional overcrowding or mask violations.

I think the point was that selling ice cream, watching the pool, checking people in, etc. was not going to put teenage guards in line to take the wrath of some irrational adult if they had to police social distancing and mask wearing. I know that the guard companies were also concerned about pools turning their guards into the mask/social distancing police. I will admit the kids at our pool didn’t really socially distance from each other but when they were out of the pool they were masked even if they were hanging out/playing in a group. It sounds like you made the right choice for you to steer clear of the pool though.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

Teens don’t have parents there. There were way too many kids (of all ages) near the diving board. There were way too many kids socializing together during breaks and on deck. That’s insane to me that the lifeguards can watch an empty pool, sell an ice cream cone, check someone in, but can’t tell kids to back up or only 4 at a time in line for the diving board. I’m not expecting them to go around and police masking all the time but if they police occasional running, they can police occasional overcrowding or mask violations.

does your pool not have managers on duty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

+1 for our pool. This makes sense. Lifeguards are there to prevent drowning. Parents should be policing their own children. If they pool makes you uncomfortable don't go!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids a lifeguard. She does not need to be vaccinated. That’s hilarious. You all realize these kids hung out together all summer last year OUTSIDE the pool gates? I think they are good to lifeguard the same this year. It was ridiculous that any of us had to wear masks outside while at the pool.

That is a pretty bad brag about your child and your parenting skills. And, this is why covid is as bad as it is and why swimming is limited. Thanks!

I’m the only parent allowing my kid to play with neighbor kids last summer? Even without masks?

We didn’t use the pool last summer recreationally because your lifeguard kid (and other lifeguard kids) failed to enforce the rules. Those are the same rules we, as a family, instituted outside the pool gates.

Our pool made it clear to the families that the teenage lifeguards were not responsible for enforcing social distancing. They made it clear that as adults we were responsible for ours and our children’s behavior, and honestly with all the ridiculous incidents of people physically assaulting those trying to enforce mask/distancing requirements, I thought this made sense. The guards jobs were to keep an eye on the people in the water, not to make sure people out of the pool were masked, distanced, etc. People abided by the mask requirements on the pool deck and the kids abided by the mask requirement out of the water. There were no Covid issues at our pool over the summer.

+1 for our pool. This makes sense. Lifeguards are there to prevent drowning. Parents should be policing their own children. If they pool makes you uncomfortable don't go!

Eh- they are there for a lot more reasons than that: test water, empty trash and recycling, collect forgotten items, check people in, collect fees for guests, sell items, first aid, stock bathrooms, provide menus to delivery places, offer phones to call parents, etc. They do a lot of things - and while watching the eater is a main duty, it is by no means the only main duty. Enforcing rules (paying for guests, not running, no pushing, etc) is definitely in their job description and it should include telling groups of kids to break it up during a pandemic when the whole pool could be down.