Brightwood Protest: MPD has lost control. They all need to be replaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Teens in the burbs run from cops every weekend when their parties are busted. The consequence is not death.

It is if they run into the path of a moving car!

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this is just a question re broader issues surrounding policing: honestly if he was not Black what is the likelihood he would have been stopped at all?

I’m white and got ticketed for jay walking in Adams Morgan. It’s pretty dangerous to ride a fast machine on a sidewalk. With Philadelphia ransacked, MPD probably correctly felt the need to not allow total chaos to break loose in DC.

Just FYI. He was looking for his keys which he had lost earlier. That's why he was on the sidewalk and he was probably driving very slowly so that he could see the keys.

Source?

An interview with his friend who was the one who rented the scooter. His friend was very upset that he let him use the scooter rather than walking to look for the keys.

Great. So his friend is just as responsible for his death as potentially the police are.

Who let him give that interview? What an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Ok, let's assume I agree that no one should run from the police (there's the faulty assumption that the police are 100% correct and honest, which is faulty).

So then what should be the consequences if someone chooses to run? An additional misdemeanor charge if caught? Summary execution? Something in between?

[Anonymous]

I'll wait for the US Attorney and MPD internal affairs to review before making a judgement. I've heard too many different stories and trust the powers that be to sort it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Ok, let's assume I agree that no one should run from the police (there's the faulty assumption that the police are 100% correct and honest, which is faulty).

So then what should be the consequences if someone chooses to run? An additional misdemeanor charge if caught? Summary execution? Something in between?

Sometimes pedestrians are summarily executed by people running from police or just already engaged in illegal behavior and driving irresponsibly. This has happened to folks in DC hit by stolen vehicles. This could have happened to anyone on foot hit by this kids scooter. This is primarily why police dont give chase.

[Anonymous]

Apparently the cops knew him well from previous problems he’s had with the law. Therefore, (and this is before all the facts come out, so I’m assuming he wasn’t armed or acting in a violent or threatening manner) there was absolutely no reason for them to give chase. Document his infraction and mail him a ticket or get a warrant for his arrest, whatever his violation legally called for. There were completely reasonable actions the cops could have taken instead of giving chase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Last night was the second night of protests regarding MPD's handling of the scooter incident and the subsequent death of a Brightwood resident.

Medics report several infants and several 14-18 year olds were pepper sprayed with tear gas, response escalated by poilice at 8:45 PM.

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1QKYefjSb0

Here are some thoughts:

If you

- ride a moped on a sidewalk, without a helmet, and
- illegally flee a legal police stop, and
- wreck while evading police, then...

The outcome is 100% on you. There is nothing for reasonable, rational people to protest.

More

- If you bring an infant to a riot, you are negligent
- 14-18 year olds in Brightwood are hardly babies: that's the cohort committing much of the smash-and-grabs and muggings.
- People smashing squad car and HQ windows belong in jail
- Anyone launching powerful fireworks at police officers should do serious jail time

Agreed!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Ok, let's assume I agree that no one should run from the police (there's the faulty assumption that the police are 100% correct and honest, which is faulty).

So then what should be the consequences if someone chooses to run? An additional misdemeanor charge if caught? Summary execution? Something in between?

Sometimes pedestrians are summarily executed by people running from police or just already engaged in illegal behavior and driving irresponsibly. This has happened to folks in DC hit by stolen vehicles. This could have happened to anyone on foot hit by this kids scooter. This is primarily why police dont give chase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Ok, let's assume I agree that no one should run from the police (there's the faulty assumption that the police are 100% correct and honest, which is faulty).

So then what should be the consequences if someone chooses to run? An additional misdemeanor charge if caught? Summary execution? Something in between?

Sometimes pedestrians are summarily executed by people running from police or just already engaged in illegal behavior and driving irresponsibly. This has happened to folks in DC hit by stolen vehicles. This could have happened to anyone on foot hit by this kids scooter. This is primarily why police dont give chase.

So your solution is to allow people to openly break the law? If someone runs a light or does something illegal, I support the police 100% in going after that person. I would prefer to live in a safe environment instead of a state of anarchy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Ok, let's assume I agree that no one should run from the police (there's the faulty assumption that the police are 100% correct and honest, which is faulty).

So then what should be the consequences if someone chooses to run? An additional misdemeanor charge if caught? Summary execution? Something in between?

Sometimes pedestrians are summarily executed by people running from police or just already engaged in illegal behavior and driving irresponsibly. This has happened to folks in DC hit by stolen vehicles. This could have happened to anyone on foot hit by this kids scooter. This is primarily why police dont give chase.

So your solution is to allow people to openly break the law? If someone runs a light or does something illegal, I support the police 100% in going after that person. I would prefer to live in a safe environment instead of a state of anarchy.

NP but this is insanity. You're arguing for police chases when someone runs a light? That has to be sarcasm; what you're envisioning is drastically less safe than reality (where a ticket is mailed to that person's house).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the cops knew him well from previous problems he’s had with the law. Therefore, (and this is before all the facts come out, so I’m assuming he wasn’t armed or acting in a violent or threatening manner) there was absolutely no reason for them to give chase. Document his infraction and mail him a ticket or get a warrant for his arrest, whatever his violation legally called for. There were completely reasonable actions the cops could have taken instead of giving chase.

Yes this exactly. Plus they violated MPD policy. They stated themselves the reason for pursuit was that he wasn’t wearing a helmet. That is not reason enough to pursue him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this is just a question re broader issues surrounding policing: honestly if he was not Black what is the likelihood he would have been stopped at all?

I’m white and got ticketed for jay walking in Adams Morgan. It’s pretty dangerous to ride a fast machine on a sidewalk. With Philadelphia ransacked, MPD probably correctly felt the need to not allow total chaos to break loose in DC.

Just FYI. He was looking for his keys which he had lost earlier. That's why he was on the sidewalk and he was probably driving very slowly so that he could see the keys.

Source?

An interview with his friend who was the one who rented the scooter. His friend was very upset that he let him use the scooter rather than walking to look for the keys.

Great. So his friend is just as responsible for his death as potentially the police are.

Who let him give that interview? What an idiot.

Also: who the hell looks for their keys on the sidewalk by driving a moped? That story makes zero sense, yet it's being taken credulously. Also, there's no way to drive a moped "very slowly" and remain upright. Again, this story is nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So your solution is to allow people to openly break the law? If someone runs a light or does something illegal, I support the police 100% in going after that person. I would prefer to live in a safe environment instead of a state of anarchy.

An environment where the police engage in a car chase when a driver runs a red light, is not a safe environment.

I would prefer to live in a safe environment, where the police follow the police procedures about car chases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So your solution is to allow people to openly break the law? If someone runs a light or does something illegal, I support the police 100% in going after that person. I would prefer to live in a safe environment instead of a state of anarchy.

An environment where the police engage in a car chase when a driver runs a red light, is not a safe environment.

I would prefer to live in a safe environment, where the police follow the police procedures about car chases.

So essentially you are saying let people do what they wish. If someone takes off, the police should go for donuts instead of doing something about it. Lovely. No wonder DC is so messed up. Not looking forward to seeing what happens if this stupid Initiative 81 passes.

[Anonymous]

Allowing people to run away from police is even worse. It is basically telling criminals, to just take off. They have better chances if they run away.

Now the guy is taking off, he most likely has a reason he is ditching the cops. maybe an illegal gun or firearm in the car. Or he has a warrant out for his arrest. Or car is stolen.

I don't know about you but I have never taken off if I had police pulling me over. Maybe I am old fashioned, I don't know.