Brightwood Protest: MPD has lost control. They all need to be replaced.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question here. How did the scooter driver die? Did the police cruiser run him over?

That would be the police officer's fault.

Did he fall off of his scooter?

That would put the blame on the scooter driver for not wearing a helmet.

Did he hit another car?

Again, scooter driver's fault for not wearing a helmet.

It’s illegal to chase a scooter, so it’s the cops fault even if the scooter was running and crashed.

Like if a criminal is chasing you and you die, it’s the criminals fault.

It might be illegal to chase a scooter, but that is not why he died. He died because he was not wearing a helmet. Period.

It is like I tell my little one about crossing the street. Just because the sign has turned walk, does not mean you can cross without looking both ways. I am not interested in suing the driver with my little ones corpse in the crosswalk. I tell them that I will put "it wasn't my fault" on their grave stone.

Police have procedures for a reason, because bad procedures lead to deaths. This has been studied for over 50 year. Chasing a moped is against regulations because it leads to deaths. They know this. They knowingly broke regulations and caused a death, which they know is probable.

No, it's not like telling your kid to cross the street.

It's like telling a doctor not to use a procedure because it causes death but he uses it anyway.

He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

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Sure. But I think, as a policy matter, (i) people shouldn't run from the cops, and (ii) the police should be able to chase people suspected of wrongdoing. I realize that's not the current state of the law, and because of that, many people do run from the police.

It's not the current state of the law because police chases endanger the public. As a policy matter, police procedures should prohibit police actions that endanger the public.

What if we just shot him before he fleed

Yeah, hahahaha! Let's execute people who don't wear helmets while riding mopeds!!!

It'll be funny as shit when the police snipe you for driving 1 mph over the speed limit. Didn't stop before the stop line? Splat! Crossing the street once the red flashing person is going?? Boom!

Hmm, wait, nevermind. I'll go with defund the police.

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Anonymous wrote:And this is just a question re broader issues surrounding policing: honestly if he was not Black what is the likelihood he would have been stopped at all?

I’m white and got ticketed for jay walking in Adams Morgan. It’s pretty dangerous to ride a fast machine on a sidewalk. With Philadelphia ransacked, MPD probably correctly felt the need to not allow total chaos to break loose in DC.

The police escalating by violently cracking down on people is a great way to lead to chaos.

Cracking down on the people who are destroying property, looting, and assaulting officers?

What about the vast majority of people who are doing none of the above? Or do you support attacking all police officers when one does something wrong. Your double standard is hard to comprehend.

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He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

"Sure I chased that guy with a deadly weapon, but he's the one who decided to try to cross the street on a don't-walk to get away from me. He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death!"

I can't believe some people's expectations that random members of the public must behave perfectly at all times or else deservedly suffer the consequences, while the professionals who serve and protect in society's name must be excused from all error.

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He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

"Sure I chased that guy with a deadly weapon, but he's the one who decided to try to cross the street on a don't-walk to get away from me. He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death!"

I can't believe some people's expectations that random members of the public must behave perfectly at all times or else deservedly suffer the consequences, while the professionals who serve and protect in society's name must be excused from all error.

But but otherwise they might quiiiiiitttt!

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Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

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Go vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Why does that sound like a nice world to live in to you? Sounds kind of shitty to me, so instead I'll vote for leaders who will work against that. No one should die just because they are running from the police. Have fun in your fascist hellhole, Greg.

No one should run from the police! Mess up? Deal with the consequences like an adult. We live in a society of rules and laws. This isn’t Thunderdome

Yes, which the police need to follow. But they didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question here. How did the scooter driver die? Did the police cruiser run him over?

That would be the police officer's fault.

Did he fall off of his scooter?

That would put the blame on the scooter driver for not wearing a helmet.

Did he hit another car?

Again, scooter driver's fault for not wearing a helmet.

It’s illegal to chase a scooter, so it’s the cops fault even if the scooter was running and crashed.

Like if a criminal is chasing you and you die, it’s the criminals fault.

It might be illegal to chase a scooter, but that is not why he died. He died because he was not wearing a helmet. Period.

It is like I tell my little one about crossing the street. Just because the sign has turned walk, does not mean you can cross without looking both ways. I am not interested in suing the driver with my little ones corpse in the crosswalk. I tell them that I will put "it wasn't my fault" on their grave stone.

Police have procedures for a reason, because bad procedures lead to deaths. This has been studied for over 50 year. Chasing a moped is against regulations because it leads to deaths. They know this. They knowingly broke regulations and caused a death, which they know is probable.

No, it's not like telling your kid to cross the street.

It's like telling a doctor not to use a procedure because it causes death but he uses it anyway.

He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

Sorry that isn’t how the law works.

Car chases kill, cops know that, they are responsible. It’s the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Teens in the burbs run from cops every weekend when their parties are busted. The consequence is not death.

You sound like a sociopath.

The cops broke the rules, that has consequences, unfortunately they caused a death and they should be prosecuted for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't people learn that cime could kill you . Instead of protesto teach your kids that if you run from the cops you could die so don't run idiots

Teens in the burbs run from cops every weekend when their parties are busted. The consequence is not death.

You sound like a sociopath.

The cops broke the rules, that has consequences, unfortunately they caused a death and they should be prosecuted for it.

+1 It was reckless endangerment at minimum.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question here. How did the scooter driver die? Did the police cruiser run him over?

That would be the police officer's fault.

Did he fall off of his scooter?

That would put the blame on the scooter driver for not wearing a helmet.

Did he hit another car?

Again, scooter driver's fault for not wearing a helmet.

It’s illegal to chase a scooter, so it’s the cops fault even if the scooter was running and crashed.

Like if a criminal is chasing you and you die, it’s the criminals fault.

It might be illegal to chase a scooter, but that is not why he died. He died because he was not wearing a helmet. Period.

It is like I tell my little one about crossing the street. Just because the sign has turned walk, does not mean you can cross without looking both ways. I am not interested in suing the driver with my little ones corpse in the crosswalk. I tell them that I will put "it wasn't my fault" on their grave stone.

Police have procedures for a reason, because bad procedures lead to deaths. This has been studied for over 50 year. Chasing a moped is against regulations because it leads to deaths. They know this. They knowingly broke regulations and caused a death, which they know is probable.

No, it's not like telling your kid to cross the street.

It's like telling a doctor not to use a procedure because it causes death but he uses it anyway.

He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

Sad but true.

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He chose to drive into the street from an alley without stopping.

He, and he alone, is responsible for his own death.

Sad but true.

This reflects the philosophy that everyone must obey the rules at all times, except the police.^^^