"DL is working well for my kid"

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is unhappy enough that he testified yesterday about the mental health troubles MCPS isn’t addressing.

Its not MCPS job to deal with mental health troubles. If your child has mental health issues, that's a parenting fail as the real issue is you have not addressed it. Instead of taking your kid to testify take him to a therapist.

MCPS disagrees. MCPS has spent a good amount of money implementing mental health curriculum - Be Well 365?

The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

I keep pushing back on this argument because kids experience anxiety and depression for all kinds of reasons. I recognize that for a lot of kids the locus of their anxiety is around fear of a global pandemic and their depression is from the fact that life has radically changed and there is no easy answer about when things will be going back to normal. I I think it's incredibly simplistic and naive to think that reopening school is going to just cure those mental health issues. And yes part of parenting is helping your child through mental health issues and helping them to build resilience in the face of adversity.

I think you are both naive and lacking in empathy for failing to understand that school would bring a sense of normality to many kids and essentially solve their issues. I’m certain my 8 year old’s anxiety will be 95% gone as soon as he can get back in school. It is directly related to being out of school and never existed previously. It’s also unrelated to fear of the pandemic. Sure if I could afford to send him to an in-person daily program he would do much better but I don’t have that money and as we are new to the area also don’t have groups of friends for him to spend time with. These issues are multiplied many times over in other families. The risks of reopening schools are tiny but I’m beginning to conclude that the BOE just doesn’t care about kids. Believe me this will be (and is) studied for years and the long term mental health implications for our kids are only just beginning.

Life isn't normal right now. Being in school doesn't magically make the pandemic go away

No but it brings routine and social interaction to kids. It sets norms for behaving with peers. It provides an outlet for kids to learn and grow away from their families.

This is our new normal. Time to adjust and adapt to it.

Right. The new normal for Montgomery county but no where else in the world. Just wait.

If you are not happy here, you are welcome to put your kids to private, homeschool or move to where schools are open. You have lots of options. Schools are not opening right now. If your kids need to be in school in person get them in school. But, don't complain about getting covid or the schools opening/closing all the time.

Oh schools will open. The costs are just too high not to. You are in the wrong side of this one - you’ll see. Look at all the schools open elsewhere and how they are NOT driving transmission.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is unhappy enough that he testified yesterday about the mental health troubles MCPS isn’t addressing.

Its not MCPS job to deal with mental health troubles. If your child has mental health issues, that's a parenting fail as the real issue is you have not addressed it. Instead of taking your kid to testify take him to a therapist.

MCPS disagrees. MCPS has spent a good amount of money implementing mental health curriculum - Be Well 365?

The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

No, we are responsible parents who meet our kids needs and stop scapegoating others as an excuse for your child's mental health issues. They probably had issues before and you didn't notice it.

No you are a nasty, selfish, heartless, mean excuse for a parent who is unable to feel empathy.

You have no idea what is going on in my life. The difference is I take responsibility for mine and get them the help they need vs. rant about what others aren't doing. My Kids, MY RESPONSIBILITY. YOUR KIDS, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. There is much more to mental health than not having in person school and you are minimizing and ignoring your kids needs if you don't seem to understand that. We are in a pandemic. Its not just about you, but the greater good. There is no way MCPS can safely go back and you wanting to risk our kids health and our families health as you cannot make the necessary changes to meet your kids needs is nasty, selfish, heartless and mean. Be a parent and understand the risks you are putting others at with your behavior.

Ma’am, it’s not just about you! We’re talking about the greater good here. Thousands upon thousands of kids are already suffering and the long term consequences of keeping schools closed are immense. Take a look at the broader picture here. Yay you that you have the resources you need outside of school. Hundreds of thousands of other families don’t and are struggling in a multitude of ways. Many are in crisis. Many kids are in crisis. It’s not just about you! Btw, I hope you’ve realized that you are arguing with several people here who are all outraged by your inability to understand the reality of mental health issues during this pandemic.

There aren't thousands upon thousands of kids suffering as you claim because schools are closed. And, given the posts here and that protest, the numbers look pretty small and many of us understand and support why they are closed. COVID is very serious and its outrageous that you don't have the ability to understand how dangerous and deadly it is and understand numbers are rising again.

If your kids are suffering, get them help. Stop blaming the schools for your child's mental health issues. You can scapegoat any you'd like but that's not the cause of mental health. And, given how you great people online, one can only guess what goes on in your home. Maybe you need to adapt like the rest of us have and stop scapegoating and start supporting.

Do you realize how many more have gotten sick and DIED of covid? DIED? But, you don't seem to care about those people. The essential workers who get exposed daily because of people's choices. What about all those kids who lost their parents to COVID? Does your inability to care for your kids at home mean we should lose more lives as that's exactly what will happen when we open schools? And, then you'll be screaming your child has a sub who is terrible because the teacher is out with covid. What do you think will happen when we open and close schools every few weeks? That will be really disruptive to people who now have child care and give it up.

You’re right. There are millions of kids suffering. Try looking at the research.

[Anonymous]

I think we should have both in person and DL for those who want it. Certain benchmarks on the part of distance learners have to be met. Some of us desperately need to send our kids back. Some of us never want to go back again.

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To the bitchy poster,

Here’sa lesson in empathy - imagine that instead of what you are saying blaming parents for their kids’ distress during a global pandemic, posters here were blaming you for the death of your child. Let’s say we said to you again and again, buckle up buttercup and get your kids some damn help? Why didn’t you get your kid help? Stop blaming other people for your kid’s death, you’re the parent? Why didn’t you save him/her? I take care of MY kids and they haven’t died, you should have taken better care of yours.

Get it now? You understand why we think you are cruel and heartless? Of course no one would say that to you and again, I’m sorry for your loss.

[Anonymous]

Well, that went south in a hurry. No Russian Trolls needed.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

No, we are responsible parents who meet our kids needs and stop scapegoating others as an excuse for your child's mental health issues. They probably had issues before and you didn't notice it.

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Anonymous wrote:No you are a nasty, selfish, heartless, mean excuse for a parent who is unable to feel empathy.

She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

I was thinking another word but I'll go along with yours.

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Anonymous wrote:I have spent thousands upon thousands to meet my child's needs. You all name calling speak volumes of what probably goes on in your home and that's why your kids NEED to be at school. Its a safe place for them, unlike home.

Luckily, I don't take criticism from hypocrites like you. I guess only you can name call? GTFO with that nonsense. I have a great family and we are really happy, I'm certain the same cannot be said of your miserable family having to deal with your nasty ass 24/7.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, that went south in a hurry. No Russian Trolls needed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

No, we are responsible parents who meet our kids needs and stop scapegoating others as an excuse for your child's mental health issues. They probably had issues before and you didn't notice it.

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Anonymous wrote:No you are a nasty, selfish, heartless, mean excuse for a parent who is unable to feel empathy.

She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

I was thinking another word but I'll go along with yours.

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Anonymous wrote:I have spent thousands upon thousands to meet my child's needs. You all name calling speak volumes of what probably goes on in your home and that's why your kids NEED to be at school. Its a safe place for them, unlike home.

Luckily, I don't take criticism from hypocrites like you. I guess only you can name call? GTFO with that nonsense. I have a great family and we are really happy, I'm certain the same cannot be said of your miserable family having to deal with your nasty ass 24/7.

Oh I’m pretty sure the bitchy poster is a troll of some kind. I mean no real person is that mean, right?

[Anonymous]

Putting the drama aside, I am chiming in as a parent of two kids who attend a small private. I also have one in public. At the beginning, I was one of the people who said that DL was working well for my family. My oldest likes being able to sleep later, I love having us all together (most days), and my kids seemed generally happy, all things considered. One saving grace for them was returning to sports, but with sports as their main socialization, DL was working and they were doing fine.

Then, despite my initial reservations, the two who go to private school returned for some in-person learning, first for half days and then for some full days. Both reported almost immediately feeling much more energized and focused on their school work. Both noted a significant improvement in their understanding of math due to learning in person. I thought they were fine, but I have been amazed by how much happier the are since returning to school several days per week.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting the drama aside, I am chiming in as a parent of two kids who attend a small private. I also have one in public. At the beginning, I was one of the people who said that DL was working well for my family. My oldest likes being able to sleep later, I love having us all together (most days), and my kids seemed generally happy, all things considered. One saving grace for them was returning to sports, but with sports as their main socialization, DL was working and they were doing fine.

Then, despite my initial reservations, the two who go to private school returned for some in-person learning, first for half days and then for some full days. Both reported almost immediately feeling much more energized and focused on their school work. Both noted a significant improvement in their understanding of math due to learning in person. I thought they were fine, but I have been amazed by how much happier the are since returning to school several days per week.

I also have one kid in private and one in public. Ironically the one in DL seems to be doing better. Can't really explain it, but DL seems to work for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we should have both in person and DL for those who want it. Certain benchmarks on the part of distance learners have to be met. Some of us desperately need to send our kids back. Some of us never want to go back again.

This is a public health issue not a popularity contest. The actions of others effect everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting the drama aside, I am chiming in as a parent of two kids who attend a small private. I also have one in public. At the beginning, I was one of the people who said that DL was working well for my family. My oldest likes being able to sleep later, I love having us all together (most days), and my kids seemed generally happy, all things considered. One saving grace for them was returning to sports, but with sports as their main socialization, DL was working and they were doing fine.

Then, despite my initial reservations, the two who go to private school returned for some in-person learning, first for half days and then for some full days. Both reported almost immediately feeling much more energized and focused on their school work. Both noted a significant improvement in their understanding of math due to learning in person. I thought they were fine, but I have been amazed by how much happier the are since returning to school several days per week.

I also have one kid in private and one in public. Ironically the one in DL seems to be doing better. Can't really explain it, but DL seems to work for them.

PP here. You never know, do you? My son, who said that he wanted to stick with DL, has been a completely different person since he went back to school - in a good way. Of course I never would have known this until he actually went back to school.

Still, every kid is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, that went south in a hurry. No Russian Trolls needed.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

No, we are responsible parents who meet our kids needs and stop scapegoating others as an excuse for your child's mental health issues. They probably had issues before and you didn't notice it.

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Anonymous wrote:No you are a nasty, selfish, heartless, mean excuse for a parent who is unable to feel empathy.

She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

I was thinking another word but I'll go along with yours.

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Anonymous wrote:I have spent thousands upon thousands to meet my child's needs. You all name calling speak volumes of what probably goes on in your home and that's why your kids NEED to be at school. Its a safe place for them, unlike home.

Luckily, I don't take criticism from hypocrites like you. I guess only you can name call? GTFO with that nonsense. I have a great family and we are really happy, I'm certain the same cannot be said of your miserable family having to deal with your nasty ass 24/7.

Oh I’m pretty sure the bitchy poster is a troll of some kind. I mean no real person is that mean, right?

You sound like you fit the bill.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we should have both in person and DL for those who want it. Certain benchmarks on the part of distance learners have to be met. Some of us desperately need to send our kids back. Some of us never want to go back again.

This is a public health issue not a popularity contest. The actions of others effect everyone.

+1, its not about what we want, its about health and safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, that went south in a hurry. No Russian Trolls needed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps blaming parents for kids mental health is a nasty selfish person lacking in any empathy. Yes, lack of school is causing mental health problems. Anxiety is rocketing among children. Isolation is one factor and it’s also causing regression in behaviors for many kids. I was able to find my kid a therapist and was lucky to have insurance to cover it, but his need for therapy was directly related to school closures and would be solved instantly by being back at school in person. So not only is the school not addressing this but the lack of school is a direct causal factor. The nasty poster knows this but for some reason it feels good to her to attack desperate parents to meet her fear driven goal of keeping school closed.

No, we are responsible parents who meet our kids needs and stop scapegoating others as an excuse for your child's mental health issues. They probably had issues before and you didn't notice it.

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Anonymous wrote:No you are a nasty, selfish, heartless, mean excuse for a parent who is unable to feel empathy.

She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's a nasty bitch. Just call her what she is.

I was thinking another word but I'll go along with yours.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have spent thousands upon thousands to meet my child's needs. You all name calling speak volumes of what probably goes on in your home and that's why your kids NEED to be at school. Its a safe place for them, unlike home.

Luckily, I don't take criticism from hypocrites like you. I guess only you can name call? GTFO with that nonsense. I have a great family and we are really happy, I'm certain the same cannot be said of your miserable family having to deal with your nasty ass 24/7.

Oh I’m pretty sure the bitchy poster is a troll of some kind. I mean no real person is that mean, right?

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are a troll.

And, if things aren't working at home with school, things cannot be 100% happy. Parents may be happy but if they are screaming mental health and other issues a lot more is going on there.

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OMG. That is so offensive. Some kids are not okay. That doesn't mean they have bad parents. You do not sound totally okay yourself... but please refrain from judging others. The only thing that solves problems is truth... and you need to work harder to get there.

DL is not working for all kids. The kids are fine- the adults in the room need to change. That means teachers and MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:To the bitchy poster,

Here’sa lesson in empathy - imagine that instead of what you are saying blaming parents for their kids’ distress during a global pandemic, posters here were blaming you for the death of your child. Let’s say we said to you again and again, buckle up buttercup and get your kids some damn help? Why didn’t you get your kid help? Stop blaming other people for your kid’s death, you’re the parent? Why didn’t you save him/her? I take care of MY kids and they haven’t died, you should have taken better care of yours.

Get it now? You understand why we think you are cruel and heartless? Of course no one would say that to you and again, I’m sorry for your loss.

And, how about some empathy for others as well? You are cruel and heartless not to care we are in a pandemic and your demands to go back can and will have serious consequences on others. That is extremely selfish.

If your kids are stressed over a pandemic, how is sending them to school where they could catch covid a good idea? If your kids are that stressed, what are you doing to change your home environment, what you talk to about them and what they see and hear to make it better for them.

My kids have not died.

Its funny the same people demanding teachers "suck it up buttercup" are the ones not willing to do it and do DL.

Either way we are probably NOT going back this year so if things aren't working for your child or in your home, you need to make changes to make it work.

School isn't going to go back to normal for a very long time.

And, what do you envision school will look like. Kids will not be able to eat together at lunch. Play at recess closely together nor even sit close to each other. They will be confined to their desks with partitions around them. And, make on. That sounds pretty miserable.

And each time a classmate or teacher gets covid, school gets closed for 2 weeks. And, then what do the parents do who cannot get last minute child care? Are you going to volunteer to take their kids for two weeks each time school closes to make it work?