MCPS v FCPS?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To ^ FCPS poster -- FCPS has lower FARMS rate compared to MCPS, and FCPS is larger. TJ is a WHOLE school magnet vs Blair having only top 100 kids in the entire county.

Please try to understand how that impacts the hard numbers, and then take a look at the numbers for ALL of FCPS compared to ALL of MCPS. Then look at proportional rate, and come back and post. Thanks.


Right: so if TJ can teach 423, where half preferentially choose to go to UVA (which let's be clear, is a fantastic school) and we have say, 200 kids mucking around and we're still sending 79 of them to HYPS, let's to the math. (Because let's be honest, lots of parents send their kids to TJ so that they can go to UVA. It's a preferred choice.)

79/200 = 39.5%
21/100 = 21%

Wait, so we are sending 50% more to HYPS. Huh.


Overall HYPS Stats:

Ballpark numbers, because really... you're can't do it yourselves. How typical.

FCPS = 58K kids. MCPS = 48K kids.

We have 20% more kids than you. We send about 10% more than you to HYPS. Big whoop. I explain below.

You argue you have more FARMS. That means that you are arguing that your kids are inherently struggling to even get to the level of us because they are poorer. Dudes. That's the most sick racist thing I have ever heard. Why?

Because MCPS spends 2.68 billion and FCPS spends 3.0 billion. Meaning for our 20% increase in kids, we are still spendng proportionally less than you, by about 10%.. We are doing more with our money than you are. And you pay a higher tax rate than we do.

Wow. You're arguing over a 10% deviation of HYPS when we spend less than you, we have more kids, and even if our FARMs rate is lower, we still have a #4 school and and we have 4 schools nationally ranked over your two. We have a 50% proportional national success rate over all of your schools. And we do it with less proportional money to our kids, and more kids, and less taxes.

*slow clap* You guys totally get gold stars for participation!

FCPS school system is better because we can do more with less and we keep attracting UMC families.

Such. A. Joy. You guys give me life.

50% more schools in the top 200 of US News.
50% more HYPS when adjusted for preferential UVA enrollment.
Less money for our kids for more competitive education.
More ISEF, Science Bowl winners.
No rapists or sexual harassers.

B-Liar has really brainwashed you guys. It's quite adorable.

MADE. MY. DAY!

You’re definitely a certified imbecile.
Anonymous
^^^^
Name calling is so intelligent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.
Anonymous
Your precious B-Liar claims to take the best of the best from MoCo. That means, you only produce 21 STEM HYPS kids from your best.

Your argument is that rate matters. That if you had 21 out of 100 kids, you would maintain the rate at 400 kids. Like so:

000-100: 21 go to HYPS
101-200: 21 go to HYPS
201-300: 21 go to HYPS
301-400: 21 go to HYPS

But we know this can't be true because a) according to B-Liar, THE KIDS THERE ARE THE BEST. They claim they are highly selective. From your argument or rate or %, YOUR ARGUMENT, 63 of the kids at Blair DO NOT BELONG THERE. They are either frauds, or they're just not that smart, or your school isn't picking the best. It's just randomly picking from the top 400, and pushing them in. In fact, as evidenced from the RM, WW, Wootton, WC: Polaris List, it looks like your local schools all keep retaining kids. (And that RM is closing in on Blair's butt).

Also, we know that this doesn't happen in real life. Your argument is like 3rd grade AAP math.

Moreover, even if we were to adjust for true population distribution (aka, a BELL CURVE, for the most simplistic, layman's view), and adjusted for a 10% decrease (also simplistic), your schools distribution by YOUR ARGUMENTS should be like this:

000-100: 21 go to HYPS
101-200: 19 go to HYPS
201-300: 17 go to HYPS
301-400: 15 go to HYPS

Which gives you a whopping 72 kids. And that's being generous.

But let's say we argue that ok, well, from TJ's point of view, we were to also take the cream of the crop, but instead of skimming the top 100, we skim the top 400 and hope to maximize for the top 100 students in the country (which, FYI, makes a ton more sense in terms of statistical rankings). That means, our distribution, or the FCPS argument, looks like this:

000-100: 79 go to HYPS
101-200: 00 go to HYPS
201-300: 00 go to HYPS
301-400: 00 go to HYPS

That means our top 100 is a true top 100, at 79/100.

Alternatively, for us to do a reverse of the bell curve above (to adapt for your argument):

000-100: 23 go to HYPS
101-200: 21 go to HYPS
201-300: 19 go to HYPS
301-400: 16 go to HYPS

Still... not so good for your rate argument-- we still have a 10% lead.

In TJ's view, we are getting the best. And the best 100, at 79/100, outperforms the best 100 in other high schools the rest of the country. When you talk to admissions, they scale what to expect from these kids based on performance: and that's why 79 of them get in. If Blair was so great, it would get 80/100. Period.

You guys don't want to play with numbers. But this is reality folks: parents aren't sending the best to Blair. You have a really good distribution within your county schools because Blair isn't worth it for parents. It's not getting the cream, it's getting the same as RM, WW: it's getting what it can get. And that's why as a magnet, it's an utter sham. But moreover, you argue that you have more FARMS. I double checked this.

FCPS: 33
MCPS: 28

So you are telling the whole world that MOCO is so much more poorer that FCPS and thus can't possibly outperform FCPS because we have 18% less FARMS then you.

WOW. I mean, I would argue that this is statistically irrelevant given the numbers, but I don't think you would understand, as you are still stuck in 3rd grade math.

But keep arguing that your top 100 is better than TJ's. According to the rest of the world, the top 100 at TJ outperform your top 100 in each of your schools-- including Stuy. That's why it's number 1 on the Polaris list, USNews, GS, ... basically, all the studies out there.

God this was fun. Thanks for calling me names. No wonder you guys attract new businesses in NoCo anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.


That is the best you can do, isn't it?

You can't argue. You can't produce math to show that you are right.

You just call names.

B-Liar must be so proud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.


It's ok. I mean, I'd like a school that allows a sexual harrasser of 4 decades to hang out just because he can teach math. And a rapist as an assistant coach. That's all good.

Name calling is apparently what your school teaches.
Anonymous
What is the point of this debate. No one picks a county on the small chance they will get in to either. They both attract and support successful students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.


That is the best you can do, isn't it?

You can't argue. You can't produce math to show that you are right.

You just call names.

B-Liar must be so proud.

What the hell is a B-liar.

Also, who the hell has time to gather all those stats? You clearly have some issues. You make fun of UMD boosters but you've got some issues if you spend this much time gathering stats about whether FCPS sends more kids to HYP or MCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Also, who the hell has time to gather all those stats? You clearly have some issues. You make fun of UMD boosters but you've got some issues if you spend this much time gathering stats about whether FCPS sends more kids to HYP or MCPS.


Don'tcha know it's much better to post BS without stats?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.


That is the best you can do, isn't it?

You can't argue. You can't produce math to show that you are right.

You just call names.

B-Liar must be so proud.

What the hell is a B-liar.

Also, who the hell has time to gather all those stats? You clearly have some issues. You make fun of UMD boosters but you've got some issues if you spend this much time gathering stats about whether FCPS sends more kids to HYP or MCPS.

What ststs? Those are made up numbers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.

You are also an idiot.


That is the best you can do, isn't it?

You can't argue. You can't produce math to show that you are right.

You just call names.

B-Liar must be so proud.

What the hell is a B-liar.

Also, who the hell has time to gather all those stats? You clearly have some issues. You make fun of UMD boosters but you've got some issues if you spend this much time gathering stats about whether FCPS sends more kids to HYP or MCPS.

What stats? Those are made up numbers
Anonymous
Those are numbers from Polaris list website.

The farms rates are from the MCPS and FCPS websites.

The inability to see facts and argue persuasive, the name calling, and the complete inability to see mockery is indicative of the educational level from MCPS and of your on doing.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok, but then why do more large public MCPS make the list than large FCPS schools? That was my question.


Because of U.Va. Big percent of the class at TJ goes to U.Va. Md. doesn't have an equivalent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Those are numbers from Polaris list website.

The farms rates are from the MCPS and FCPS websites.

The inability to see facts and argue persuasive, the name calling, and the complete inability to see mockery is indicative of the educational level from MCPS and of your on doing.


Sigh! !
79/200 = 39.5%  where?
You picked a number out of your @$$ to fit your narrative.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, but then why do more large public MCPS make the list than large FCPS schools? That was my question.


Because of U.Va. Big percent of the class at TJ goes to U.Va. Md. doesn't have an equivalent.

Wrong, about 40% Blair magnet students go to UMD, which is actually a STEM powerhouse while UVA is not.
One has to wonder why go to all the troubles of going to TJ just to end up at UVA.
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