Wash Post: Michael Eric Dyson reports 6 yo grandson called a racial slur at Mann

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

Translation: we're covering all bases since we know with whom we are dealing. Have you ever worked in a bureaucracy threatened with legal action?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

Translation: we're covering all bases since we know with whom we are dealing. Have you ever worked in a bureaucracy threatened with legal action?

Translation: you weren't there and are assuming things, aka making stuff up based on your "expertise"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Riddle me this: how does Michael Eric Dyson know a racial slur was used? He posted on his Twitter account that he was heading to the school after a 6 year old called his grandson the N-word. He was heading to the school.

The principal said no slur was used, so we can surmise the principal didn't tell Mr. Dyson otherwise over the phone. And his grandson is 6 years old, so I doubt he has his own cell phone to call his granddad outside of the gazing eyes of the attentive administration.

So, how then does Dyson know his son was called an N-word before he even arrived at the school?



It isn't even 2nd hand reports that the N word was used. He started the reports!

I have exactly the same question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

Translation: we're covering all bases since we know with whom we are dealing. Have you ever worked in a bureaucracy threatened with legal action?

Dyson got WAY out over his skis. Then doubled down (according to the outrage playbook). This is just DCPS providing cover to an ally. So he does not get any well deserved blow back.

[Anonymous]

Yes, because the history in our country is all about black people lying about white crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no green aliens with big ears and pointy horns exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no green aliens with big ears and pointy horns exist.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no green aliens with big ears and pointy horns exist.

Exactly.

I can confirm with confidence that there is a history of racism in this country. You two ought to take a hard look in the mirror and think about who you really want to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no green aliens with big ears and pointy horns exist.

Exactly.

I can confirm with confidence that there is a history of racism in this country. You two ought to take a hard look in the mirror and think about who you really want to be.

Absolutely there is a history of racism in this country!

What if that history played no role in the 6-year-old’s pizza line fight?

Trying to make mountains out of molehills does not further the cause of justice.

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The pizza at Mann must be fantastic!

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

Well then you haven’t been thinking hard enough. As one example, the “f“word has been re-claimed by some in the LGBTQ community. As a straight person, I would not use it, even if in jest, because whatever my intentions, it would have a different impact coming from me.

We can be even more basic. Is it ok for a man in the workplace to call a woman "honey" "sweetie" or "baby"? Perfectly acceptable for her mother or significant other to use those words, right? Every man should know not to use those words with a woman this he is unfamiliar with. Context matters.

Furthermore if I as a black person say to you, out of respect for me, please dont use that word, that honestly should be enough. Got it now? This isnt hard people.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

Well then you haven’t been thinking hard enough. As one example, the “f“word has been re-claimed by some in the LGBTQ community. As a straight person, I would not use it, even if in jest, because whatever my intentions, it would have a different impact coming from me.

We can be even more basic. Is it ok for a man in the workplace to call a woman "honey" "sweetie" or "baby"? Perfectly acceptable for her mother or significant other to use those words, right? Every man should know not to use those words with a woman this he is unfamiliar with. Context matters.

Furthermore if I as a black person say to you, out of respect for me, please dont use that word, that honestly should be enough. Got it now? This isnt hard people.

+2. Ta-Nehisi Coates gave a similar explanation of why white people should not use that word.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/9/16627900/ta-nehisi-coates-n-word

[Anonymous]

I believe racism and disproportionate discipline in schools are real and present. And we should all do everything we can to correct the issues.

However, I also believe that Dyson is using a story he embellished about a fight among 6 year old boys where his grandson and another child were the initial aggressors to score political points. He isn’t helping anyone.

There are enough legitimate stories for him to tell without dragging these children into it.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

Well then you haven’t been thinking hard enough. As one example, the “f“word has been re-claimed by some in the LGBTQ community. As a straight person, I would not use it, even if in jest, because whatever my intentions, it would have a different impact coming from me.

We can be even more basic. Is it ok for a man in the workplace to call a woman "honey" "sweetie" or "baby"? Perfectly acceptable for her mother or significant other to use those words, right? Every man should know not to use those words with a woman this he is unfamiliar with. Context matters.

Furthermore if I as a black person say to you, out of respect for me, please dont use that word, that honestly should be enough. Got it now? This isnt hard people.

+2. Ta-Nehisi Coates gave a similar explanation of why white people should not use that word.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/9/16627900/ta-nehisi-coates-n-word

This is dumb. I stopped reading when he used the example of his wife calling her friend "bitch" as an example of acceptability for "different groups." How low we have sunk. SMH

[Anonymous]

Yes, have you read the horrible things people are saying about him on Dyson's twitter feed? He has been called a sociopath among other things based on Dyson's misrepresentation of the situation. He is 6, he didn't use the n word. And his threat was inappropriate, but not unusual among 6 year olds.

The parents should sue the professor for slander. Lying about six year olds. How low can you go?