Wash Post: Michael Eric Dyson reports 6 yo grandson called a racial slur at Mann

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing how if you tweak someone’s words you can make them imply something completely different. Again, go back to Fox News. You add nothing of value here, except reinforcing that some WOTP parents think like you and will reflect that in how their kids act.

Please give me an example. I simply copied and pasted his tweets, in their same order. That's all.

I should add: on this very topic from this very day. The content is all his.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing how if you tweak someone’s words you can make them imply something completely different. Again, go back to Fox News. You add nothing of value here, except reinforcing that some WOTP parents think like you and will reflect that in how their kids act.

Please give me an example. I simply copied and pasted his tweets, in their same order. That's all.

I should add: on this very topic from this very day. The content is all his.

In response to that question from a reporter? Because context changes the implications

See, you're just a racist operating in bad faith. GFY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Black people are the ones who should be upset with Dyson here. By crying wolf, it makes them less safe from actual racists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been around a bunch of 6 year olds waiting for their lunch lately?
I have-every day as a school based SLP.
Some points:
1. Yes, cutting/busting the line is a serious offense in that world, especially on pizza day.
2. Kids say mean things to each other that they don't fully understand all the time. They borrow chunks of language that they hear in movies, videos, at home and try them out in a situation where they think it might make sense.
3.Boys make threats that involve the potential of violence (punching, kicking, hitting, pushing, and yes, shooting), that's what they do. We (educators) do our best to give them better words and explain non-violent ways to settle arguments and tell them not to put their hands on each other frequently.
4. six year olds are children and the intent behind their mean words likely does not match the adult interpretation. They are mad and they lash out and then they go out to play.

In my experience in upper NW schools as well at in title 1 schools in DC and in MD, the N word is really not used in the elementary school population. They call each other things like poophead and stupid (for some reason "stupid" is viewed as especially terrible in this world). In many years, I haven't heard it used as a direct insult or really at all. They hear it in music and from older kids as they get older.

From the police statement there were 2 kids who cut the line and it had happened before. So really that is an egregious offense to 6 year olds on pizza day.

I feel really bad for the 6 year old who was falsely accused of using the n word and his family who have no recourse that won't make them look worse. Because I agree we need to have a serious discussion about all of these things. But this wasn't the event to pin that discussion to. I have lost all respect for Dyson who is using this as PR stunt. Hopefully his son has learned his lesson about bringing his dad to school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

Well then you haven’t been thinking hard enough. As one example, the “f“word has been re-claimed by some in the LGBTQ community. As a straight person, I would not use it, even if in jest, because whatever my intentions, it would have a different impact coming from me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was no slur.

So be it. Are you okay with the threat of shooting a classmate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been around a bunch of 6 year olds waiting for their lunch lately?
I have-every day as a school based SLP.
Some points:
1. Yes, cutting/busting the line is a serious offense in that world, especially on pizza day.
2. Kids say mean things to each other that they don't fully understand all the time. They borrow chunks of language that they hear in movies, videos, at home and try them out in a situation where they think it might make sense.
3.Boys make threats that involve the potential of violence (punching, kicking, hitting, pushing, and yes, shooting), that's what they do. We (educators) do our best to give them better words and explain non-violent ways to settle arguments and tell them not to put their hands on each other frequently.
4. six year olds are children and the intent behind their mean words likely does not match the adult interpretation. They are mad and they lash out and then they go out to play.

In my experience in upper NW schools as well at in title 1 schools in DC and in MD, the N word is really not used in the elementary school population. They call each other things like poophead and stupid (for some reason "stupid" is viewed as especially terrible in this world). In many years, I haven't heard it used as a direct insult or really at all. They hear it in music and from older kids as they get older.

From the police statement there were 2 kids who cut the line and it had happened before. So really that is an egregious offense to 6 year olds on pizza day.

I feel really bad for the 6 year old who was falsely accused of using the n word and his family who have no recourse that won't make them look worse. Because I agree we need to have a serious discussion about all of these things. But this wasn't the event to pin that discussion to. I have lost all respect for Dyson who is using this as PR stunt. Hopefully his son has learned his lesson about bringing his dad to school.

You feel bad for the kid that threatened to shoot a kid at school?!!!! Is this for real????

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was no slur.

So be it. Are you okay with the threat of shooting a classmate?

I think you need to read the SLP's post about how 6yo's communicate with each other when someone breaks the rules.

Nobody is ok with the cutting in line or the threatening. But it was best managed by the school and parents without the press and the lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the "n" word, what about threatening to go get Dad's gun and shoot someone?

I don't care if the kid is 6, that's outrageous.

I agree. The gun reference is concerning. Also the problem is that usage of the n-word is so common now thanks to vile rap songs that contain the word - and the people who embrace that “music.”

So you're excusing the use of the word by the 6yo white kid, with the rationale that he probably heard it in a rap song? How realistic is that scenario? We're not talking about teens here.

Either the word is accepted part of public discourse or its not. I happen to believe that it should not be acceptable, but unfortunately the rap culture blew a hole in that big enough to sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Please stop with this. Rap and hip-hop has been around for decades. Over the last last 5 years or so there is a growing interest in using the word in a negative and demeaning context. That is not how it is used in rap music and you know it.

What is unacceptable when it is thrown around to demean and hurt people and when white people say it the context changes. I don't understand why this is confusing for white people.

What about when a mixed-race individual says it? Is it ok only part of the time then?

Either the word is unacceptable or its not. I happen to think it should be unacceptable in all contexts.

Thank you for your opinion. Do you care at all about the feelings of others? Maybe befriend some black people and try really listening to them.

Are you saying that some people actually have "feelings" FOR the word? Shouldn't all right-thinking people condemn it??

Some people, black people use the word in a different way. I dont understand what us so hard to get about this. Millions of white teenagers for decades have consumed rap music and know not to use this word in a negative context. I personally dont use the word but get really angry that white folks cant accept not using the word even though black people do. The highest form of entitlement. I'm sure prof. Dyson has written a paper on this.

Most white people don’t say the word. They do accept what you are saying. Importantly, no one said it in this incident (except Prof. Dyson).

At the same time, it is weird logic to say, “We don’t want any of you to use a word, but it’s fine for us to use it.” If you really don’t want it used by some, a more effective strategy would be to adopt the same behavior.

I can’t think of another word which has that “it’s fine for me to use, but others shouldn’t” logic.

Well then you haven’t been thinking hard enough. As one example, the “f“word has been re-claimed by some in the LGBTQ community. As a straight person, I would not use it, even if in jest, because whatever my intentions, it would have a different impact coming from me.

I wouldn’t use that word either, but I was not aware it had been “reclaimed.”

[Anonymous]

Update from the superintendent includes this statement: "At this time, we cannot affirm with confidence that no racial slur was used"

So all the racists trying to sweep it under the rug can go pound sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been around a bunch of 6 year olds waiting for their lunch lately?
I have-every day as a school based SLP.
Some points:
1. Yes, cutting/busting the line is a serious offense in that world, especially on pizza day.
2. Kids say mean things to each other that they don't fully understand all the time. They borrow chunks of language that they hear in movies, videos, at home and try them out in a situation where they think it might make sense.
3.Boys make threats that involve the potential of violence (punching, kicking, hitting, pushing, and yes, shooting), that's what they do. We (educators) do our best to give them better words and explain non-violent ways to settle arguments and tell them not to put their hands on each other frequently.
4. six year olds are children and the intent behind their mean words likely does not match the adult interpretation. They are mad and they lash out and then they go out to play.

In my experience in upper NW schools as well at in title 1 schools in DC and in MD, the N word is really not used in the elementary school population. They call each other things like poophead and stupid (for some reason "stupid" is viewed as especially terrible in this world). In many years, I haven't heard it used as a direct insult or really at all. They hear it in music and from older kids as they get older.

From the police statement there were 2 kids who cut the line and it had happened before. So really that is an egregious offense to 6 year olds on pizza day.

I feel really bad for the 6 year old who was falsely accused of using the n word and his family who have no recourse that won't make them look worse. Because I agree we need to have a serious discussion about all of these things. But this wasn't the event to pin that discussion to. I have lost all respect for Dyson who is using this as PR stunt. Hopefully his son has learned his lesson about bringing his dad to school.

You feel bad for the kid that threatened to shoot a kid at school?!!!! Is this for real????

Yes, have you read the horrible things people are saying about him on Dyson's twitter feed? He has been called a sociopath among other things based on Dyson's misrepresentation of the situation. He is 6, he didn't use the n word. And his threat was inappropriate, but not unusual among 6 year olds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been around a bunch of 6 year olds waiting for their lunch lately?
I have-every day as a school based SLP.
Some points:
1. Yes, cutting/busting the line is a serious offense in that world, especially on pizza day.
2. Kids say mean things to each other that they don't fully understand all the time. They borrow chunks of language that they hear in movies, videos, at home and try them out in a situation where they think it might make sense.
3.Boys make threats that involve the potential of violence (punching, kicking, hitting, pushing, and yes, shooting), that's what they do. We (educators) do our best to give them better words and explain non-violent ways to settle arguments and tell them not to put their hands on each other frequently.
4. six year olds are children and the intent behind their mean words likely does not match the adult interpretation. They are mad and they lash out and then they go out to play.

In my experience in upper NW schools as well at in title 1 schools in DC and in MD, the N word is really not used in the elementary school population. They call each other things like poophead and stupid (for some reason "stupid" is viewed as especially terrible in this world). In many years, I haven't heard it used as a direct insult or really at all. They hear it in music and from older kids as they get older.

From the police statement there were 2 kids who cut the line and it had happened before. So really that is an egregious offense to 6 year olds on pizza day.

I feel really bad for the 6 year old who was falsely accused of using the n word and his family who have no recourse that won't make them look worse. Because I agree we need to have a serious discussion about all of these things. But this wasn't the event to pin that discussion to. I have lost all respect for Dyson who is using this as PR stunt. Hopefully his son has learned his lesson about bringing his dad to school.

You feel bad for the kid that threatened to shoot a kid at school?!!!! Is this for real????

Yes, have you read the horrible things people are saying about him on Dyson's twitter feed? He has been called a sociopath among other things based on Dyson's misrepresentation of the situation. He is 6, he didn't use the n word. And his threat was inappropriate, but not unusual among 6 year olds.

The school just admitted that he may have used a racial slur. They are investigating and you are the one making things up.