Looks like NOVA won Amazon HQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is this announcement supposed to be made for real?

The original announcement of the 20 "finalist" locations said by the end of 2018.

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Anonymous wrote:
Do you know how long the commute is from Herndon to CC during the school year during rush hour? An hour. I make that commute twice a week. It sucks. The countercommute is better, but not great. My kid commutes Herndon to Alexandria (TJ) usually 45 minutes. I’m married to a software engineer. He would not sign up to commute Herndon to CC every day. They would have to bump up his pay quite a bit to get him there 1/2 time.

I know VA commute times. And times. And W. Fairfax Loudoun where the tech workers live to CC is not doable. Even Oakton to CC is bad — at least 45 minutes if you get to metro, park and ride in. More than a half hour to drive. Everyone in NOVA commutes that route. They DO NOT need to add more commuters on 495/66.

Amazon pays well. But not well enough to spend a million buck for a shitshack and put 2 kids in a school system where they might have to go to HS in shifts. Or put them in ACPS or DCPs. Hard pass.

I am not going to nitpick Herndon to CC options. It does occur to me that in your particular situation if your DH went to work in Crystal City, y'all could move to Annandale/Lincolnia and have a very nice commute to TJ and a not so bad commute to CC. Of course if you have another kid you would have to decide if the schools in that part of the County worked for you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you know how long the commute is from Herndon to CC during the school year during rush hour? An hour. I make that commute twice a week. It sucks. The countercommute is better, but not great. My kid commutes Herndon to Alexandria (TJ) usually 45 minutes. I’m married to a software engineer. He would not sign up to commute Herndon to CC every day. They would have to bump up his pay quite a bit to get him there 1/2 time.

I know VA commute times. And times. And W. Fairfax Loudoun where the tech workers live to CC is not doable. Even Oakton to CC is bad — at least 45 minutes if you get to metro, park and ride in. More than a half hour to drive. Everyone in NOVA commutes that route. They DO NOT need to add more commuters on 495/66.

Amazon pays well. But not well enough to spend a million buck for a shitshack and put 2 kids in a school system where they might have to go to HS in shifts. Or put them in ACPS or DCPs. Hard pass.

I am not going to nitpick Herndon to CC options. It does occur to me that in your particular situation if your DH went to work in Crystal City, y'all could move to Annandale/Lincolnia and have a very nice commute to TJ and a not so bad commute to CC. Of course if you have another kid you would have to decide if the schools in that part of the County worked for you.

They don’t. We’re not moving Kid 2 who is just starting HS. And even I’d DC2 is younger, Easter Fairfax schools where we could afford to live are bad.

Plus, Amazon has the reputation of burning through workers quickly. Why would we move if in 2-3 years, DH might well be back working in the Dulles Tech corridor?

Also, given what it costs to move and buy and sell a house, Amazon would have to be offering a huge raise to make it make sense economically. I have a friend in a Southern state who was just hired to work in the tech corridor, at 100% telework he will in his home stat, fly in twice a year, and work remotely because the company was desperate to fill the job.

Easier solution: work at one of the zillion jobs they are having trouble filling in the Tech corridor. It’s the calculus many people world make. Which could be a problem for Amazon in CC.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you know how long the commute is from Herndon to CC during the school year during rush hour? An hour. I make that commute twice a week. It sucks. The countercommute is better, but not great. My kid commutes Herndon to Alexandria (TJ) usually 45 minutes. I’m married to a software engineer. He would not sign up to commute Herndon to CC every day. They would have to bump up his pay quite a bit to get him there 1/2 time.

I know VA commute times. And times. And W. Fairfax Loudoun where the tech workers live to CC is not doable. Even Oakton to CC is bad — at least 45 minutes if you get to metro, park and ride in. More than a half hour to drive. Everyone in NOVA commutes that route. They DO NOT need to add more commuters on 495/66.

Amazon pays well. But not well enough to spend a million buck for a shitshack and put 2 kids in a school system where they might have to go to HS in shifts. Or put them in ACPS or DCPs. Hard pass.

I am not going to nitpick Herndon to CC options. It does occur to me that in your particular situation if your DH went to work in Crystal City, y'all could move to Annandale/Lincolnia and have a very nice commute to TJ and a not so bad commute to CC. Of course if you have another kid you would have to decide if the schools in that part of the County worked for you.

My spouse and many others commute from MD to VA daily and others we know do the opposite commute. Most only stay at a job a few years so moving makes no sense. Every few years the jobs seem to switch from MD to VA and back so you need to live in a location that you can easily commute to if the contracts fizzle out, which happens a lot. Amazon is a good employer because they are not gov't funded and the jobs are a bit more stable. But, we couldn't afford to move on Amazon salary and then have to move again if they change jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you know how long the commute is from Herndon to CC during the school year during rush hour? An hour. I make that commute twice a week. It sucks. The countercommute is better, but not great. My kid commutes Herndon to Alexandria (TJ) usually 45 minutes. I’m married to a software engineer. He would not sign up to commute Herndon to CC every day. They would have to bump up his pay quite a bit to get him there 1/2 time.

I know VA commute times. And times. And W. Fairfax Loudoun where the tech workers live to CC is not doable. Even Oakton to CC is bad — at least 45 minutes if you get to metro, park and ride in. More than a half hour to drive. Everyone in NOVA commutes that route. They DO NOT need to add more commuters on 495/66.

Amazon pays well. But not well enough to spend a million buck for a shitshack and put 2 kids in a school system where they might have to go to HS in shifts. Or put them in ACPS or DCPs. Hard pass.

I am not going to nitpick Herndon to CC options. It does occur to me that in your particular situation if your DH went to work in Crystal City, y'all could move to Annandale/Lincolnia and have a very nice commute to TJ and a not so bad commute to CC. Of course if you have another kid you would have to decide if the schools in that part of the County worked for you.

They don’t. We’re not moving Kid 2 who is just starting HS. And even I’d DC2 is younger, Easter Fairfax schools where we could afford to live are bad.

Plus, Amazon has the reputation of burning through workers quickly. Why would we move if in 2-3 years, DH might well be back working in the Dulles Tech corridor?

Also, given what it costs to move and buy and sell a house, Amazon would have to be offering a huge raise to make it make sense economically. I have a friend in a Southern state who was just hired to work in the tech corridor, at 100% telework he will in his home stat, fly in twice a year, and work remotely because the company was desperate to fill the job.

Easier solution: work at one of the zillion jobs they are having trouble filling in the Tech corridor. It’s the calculus many people world make. Which could be a problem for Amazon in CC.
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Amazon caps at $160,000 and you may get a bonus or two the first year till the RSU's kick in (which you have to pay taxes on when they vest or sell them to pay the taxes). It makes absolutely no sense to move and you just do the commute if you cannot telecommute. Many are doing an 1-2 hour commute depending on traffic.

[Anonymous]

They are not picking the DMV area. So...this tread is a moot point.

[Anonymous]

* thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are not picking the DMV area. So...this tread is a moot point.

how do you know? Are you on the committee?

[Anonymous]

Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

So you don't really know, and you are just guessing like the rest of the folks on here.

What are the odds saying?

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/Amazon-Location-of-Second-Headquarters-HQ2-Odds_P23296.html

Bid Winner for Next Amazon Headquarters (HQ2)?
Northern Virginia, Virginia +240
Washington, D.C. +350
Austin, Texas +400
Boston, Massachusetts +450
Toronto, Ontario +500
Atlanta, Georgia +900
Montgomery County, Maryland +1200
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania +2000
Raleigh, North Carolina +2500
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania +3000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

Look at the actual betting odds. NoVA tops the list. However, those odds don't seem to distinguish between CC and Dulles. Personally, I would put money on CC over Dulles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

So you don't really know, and you are just guessing like the rest of the folks on here.

What are the odds saying?

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/Amazon-Location-of-Second-Headquarters-HQ2-Odds_P23296.html

Bid Winner for Next Amazon Headquarters (HQ2)?
Northern Virginia, Virginia +240
Washington, D.C. +350
Austin, Texas +400
Boston, Massachusetts +450
Toronto, Ontario +500
Atlanta, Georgia +900
Montgomery County, Maryland +1200
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania +2000
Raleigh, North Carolina +2500
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania +3000

There is always a competing post back.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2018/7/24/17608410/amazon-hq2-finalists-geekwire-atlanta-jeff-bezos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

So you don't really know, and you are just guessing like the rest of the folks on here.

What are the odds saying?

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/Amazon-Location-of-Second-Headquarters-HQ2-Odds_P23296.html

Bid Winner for Next Amazon Headquarters (HQ2)?
Northern Virginia, Virginia +240
Washington, D.C. +350
Austin, Texas +400
Boston, Massachusetts +450
Toronto, Ontario +500
Atlanta, Georgia +900
Montgomery County, Maryland +1200
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania +2000
Raleigh, North Carolina +2500
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania +3000

There is always a competing post back.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2018/7/24/17608410/amazon-hq2-finalists-geekwire-atlanta-jeff-bezos

That was a poll, where Geekwire readers voted. Not a sport book taking bets on the most likely outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

So you don't really know, and you are just guessing like the rest of the folks on here.

What are the odds saying?

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/Amazon-Location-of-Second-Headquarters-HQ2-Odds_P23296.html

Bid Winner for Next Amazon Headquarters (HQ2)?
Northern Virginia, Virginia +240
Washington, D.C. +350
Austin, Texas +400
Boston, Massachusetts +450
Toronto, Ontario +500
Atlanta, Georgia +900
Montgomery County, Maryland +1200
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania +2000
Raleigh, North Carolina +2500
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania +3000

There is always a competing post back.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2018/7/24/17608410/amazon-hq2-finalists-geekwire-atlanta-jeff-bezos

That was a poll, where Geekwire readers voted. Not a sport book taking bets on the most likely outcome.

Vegas is wrong plenty of the time...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it is just not logical. Everyone is bettign on Atlanta or other cities. Every city thinks they are getting it. I just do not see DC being picked. Its a pipe dream.

So you don't really know, and you are just guessing like the rest of the folks on here.

What are the odds saying?

http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/Amazon-Location-of-Second-Headquarters-HQ2-Odds_P23296.html

Bid Winner for Next Amazon Headquarters (HQ2)?
Northern Virginia, Virginia +240
Washington, D.C. +350
Austin, Texas +400
Boston, Massachusetts +450
Toronto, Ontario +500
Atlanta, Georgia +900
Montgomery County, Maryland +1200
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania +2000
Raleigh, North Carolina +2500
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania +3000

There is always a competing post back.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2018/7/24/17608410/amazon-hq2-finalists-geekwire-atlanta-jeff-bezos

That was a poll, where Geekwire readers voted. Not a sport book taking bets on the most likely outcome.

Vegas is wrong plenty of the time...

Whereas the readers of Geekwire have a perfect prediction record.