Katie Couric didn't know?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly what do you suggest, 15:13?

Not blaming women for men's bad behavior, to start. Just find it odd that no men were blamed for letting this go on so long - not the NBC brass paying his ridiculous salary, creating and nurturing a culture that allowed for this, the other male staff, etc. This thread is all about how it was all Katie's fault.

Did you miss the title of *this* thread?
I bumped up for you the thread about the perpetrator, Matt Lauer.

Right but this one is all about Katie.

Correct. You knew that by the title, right?

We're kind of fed up with people who knew about the smut, but acted like they were ok with it.

I'm fed up with conversations about men and their deplorable behavior being redirected to be about women. That is what you are not getting. The title of the thread is about Katie, not Matt. The blame is on Katie, not Matt. This is troubling and this is why I clicked. The point you are missing is that this shouldn't be about Katie.

Matt is the obvious villain but the women around him that remained silent despite knowing his behavior enabled him to attack even more women so yeah, they’re complicit and guilty as hell.

Please show us where Lauer's been accused of attacking anyone.

"A former NBC employee filed a complaint to the network on Wednesday saying the longtime "Today" show cohost Matt Lauer summoned her to his office in 2001, locked the door, and sexually assaulted her, The New York Times reported.

The woman told The Times that after Lauer locked the door by using a button under his desk, he asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did, then pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair, and assaulted her. She said she eventually passed out, woke up on the floor of Lauer's office, and was taken to a nurse by Lauer's assistant."


...if he somehow left a woman blacked out on his office floor with her pants down after a lovely consensual encounter, it's odd as hell.

So neither the NBC nurse nor Laurer’s assistant contacted the police? I don’t believe for a minute that NBC didn’t know about these allegations when they happened. Their statement that they were just notified and acted immediately is complete lies.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they all knew. See how fast Don Nash, Today Show executive producer, retired after the Ann Curry interview.
Interesting that Katie just got a nice job covering the Olympics for NBC.

Do you think she'll mention the enabling of the rape culture of the girls' Gymnastics?

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Anonymous wrote:I think they all knew. See how fast Don Nash, Today Show executive producer, retired after the Ann Curry interview.
Interesting that Katie just got a nice job covering the Olympics for NBC.

Do you think she'll mention the enabling of the rape culture of the girls' Gymnastics?

She seems to be avoiding substantive conversations on these topics. So I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you really rush to judgment when in reality, you have NO idea what Katie Couric knew or did. It's disturbing and I don't believe for a second that any one of you would jeopardize your own livelihoods in a similar situation, especially if you were a single mother caring for two young daughters. It makes you seem really angry and unhinged.

How many people at work "pinch" your "ass"?

How many times does this have to be stated: She recently said that the "ass pinching" line was just a joke. IT WAS A JOKE, PEOPLE! Good grief.

If you believe it was a funny joke,
post here a YouTube link of that clip.

Nope, we've all seen that clip. Instead, I'll post a link to her recent interview in which she states she was joking about the ass pinching and that she and Lauer had a "brother/sister" relationship.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/01/13/katie-couric-breaks-silence-matt-lauer-firing-not-matt-we-knew/1031514001/

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you really rush to judgment when in reality, you have NO idea what Katie Couric knew or did. It's disturbing and I don't believe for a second that any one of you would jeopardize your own livelihoods in a similar situation, especially if you were a single mother caring for two young daughters. It makes you seem really angry and unhinged.

How many people at work "pinch" your "ass"?

How many times does this have to be stated: She recently said that the "ass pinching" line was just a joke. IT WAS A JOKE, PEOPLE! Good grief.

If you believe it was a funny joke,
post here a YouTube link of that clip.

Nope, we've all seen that clip. Instead, I'll post a link to her recent interview in which she states she was joking about the ass pinching and that she and Lauer had a "brother/sister" relationship.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/01/13/katie-couric-breaks-silence-matt-lauer-firing-not-matt-we-knew/1031514001/

You're a pathetic coward.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they all knew. See how fast Don Nash, Today Show executive producer, retired after the Ann Curry interview.
Interesting that Katie just got a nice job covering the Olympics for NBC.

Do you think she'll mention the enabling of the rape culture of the girls' Gymnastics?

She seems to be avoiding substantive conversations on these topics. So I doubt it.

I think her Olympic coverage will be a flop. People aren't easily fooled by such a hypocrite.

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I think NBC will have replace Curic for the Olympic coverage. Her name is tarnished for protecting sex predator Matt Lauer.

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Anonymous wrote:I think NBC will have replace Curic for the Olympic coverage. Her name is tarnished for protecting sex predator Matt Lauer.

You must be joking (though sadly, I'm sure you're not). She didn't protect him; she said she didn't know. I believe her. I'm sure most of the people he worked with knew he was a huge flirt and cheating on his wife, but that doesn't also equate to a serial harasser.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that a journalist working closely with someone for 15 years would have known something. Similar to Oprah who has assistants who are in the business of learning what is happening in Hollywood. It seems disingenuous. Does anyone think it's true? Enlighten me.

People in the media are very good at igoring what they don't want to know.

That's why, in a different example, they were blindsided by Trump's election (and misled all of us in the process)

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She even said he pinched her ass too much.
Of course she knew what was going on.
And covered for him.

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Anonymous wrote:She even said he pinched her ass too much.
Of course she knew what was going on.
And covered for him.

For the ZILLIONTH time: she stated that she was KIDDING about the ass pinching remark. http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/katie-couric-is-disturbed-by-the-matt-lauer-allegations.html

The whole brother/sister relationship they had was what made her JOKE about him pinching her ass. She was making a joke and knew he'd laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:did she say she didn't know? She was on the record long ago saying that Lauer pinched her ass. She's a victim of his hideous behavior.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/29/matt-lauer-pinches-katie-couric/

No, she's a victim of her own ego and climb to power. If Matt did this years ago, why didn't she raise the roof about it then?

Because... it's generational. Women Katie's age didn't care about the occasional pinch on the butt or constant flirting enough to complain. It would have been career suicide! Back then there were so few women and the attitudes towards them would make you whiny millennials run home to breastfeed. Times have changed. Attitudes have changed. No one is tolerating that b.s. anymore and the impact to revenue and the bottom line proves it. Someone Katie's age would essentially be crying over spilt milk now; particularly since the women in her age group, in that business, have enjoyed professional success and the creepy men they encountered along the way were par for the course. Not so much today.

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In think it's possible that she was in such a place of privilege and power that she was unaware that his inappropriate but in her mind innocent-enough behaviors would be acted out in coercive ways against women in subordinate positions. I'll give her that. I think it's possible that she was clueless, but she would acknowledge that she was so high on a pedestal in the morning news world that she wasn't vulnerable in the ways other women were, and therefore was able to remain unaware of it.

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Anonymous wrote:She even said he pinched her ass too much.
Of course she knew what was going on.
And covered for him.

For the ZILLIONTH time: she stated that she was KIDDING about the ass pinching remark. http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/katie-couric-is-disturbed-by-the-matt-lauer-allegations.html

The whole brother/sister relationship they had was what made her JOKE about him pinching her ass. She was making a joke and knew he'd laugh.

You mean she fabricated that? Come on, be for real.
He pinched her ass and she didn't appreciate it.

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Anonymous wrote:She even said he pinched her ass too much.
Of course she knew what was going on.
And covered for him.

For the ZILLIONTH time: she stated that she was KIDDING about the ass pinching remark. http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/katie-couric-is-disturbed-by-the-matt-lauer-allegations.html

The whole brother/sister relationship they had was what made her JOKE about him pinching her ass. She was making a joke and knew he'd laugh.

You mean she fabricated that? Come on, be for real.
He pinched her ass and she didn't appreciate it.

I don't know if she made up the ass-pinching or if it really happened and she thought it was funny. Either way, it didn't seem to have bothered her at all, but her comment was totally taken by everyone else as this horrible, sexual harrassment that she obviously didn't intend. I used to work with a guy, and we would do things like that to each other all the time - I'd swat his butt in passing, he'd swat or pinch mine. We were buddies and that's just how we related to each other. It sounds like Couric and Lauer were also very much buddies/brother-sister types.

Whatever. No matter what anyone says, you'll still believe he sexually harrassed her by "pinching her butt." Personally, I'm going to take her word for it that she was just joking around.