Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what violence 8:46 is talking about?

As opposed to all the peaceful uses commonly associated with assault weapons?

[Anonymous]

If you look at the Change.org petitions, it's about 4:1 in favor of not having the store in McLean, and those taking this position probably are from McLean. The people favoring a gun store at that location seem from comments to be out of the area. And there is no mention in the pro-store petition that the store abuts an elementary school.

The location matters .... It is not a helpful visual for pro-gun advocates to show "here's our latest store next to an elementary school, come in and check out #pewpewlife." Many people like me who haven't taken sides before in the gun debate can find an easy side to take here ... And it's not with the gun store.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad that it's near an elementary school? Are you worried kids will go buy guns? Are you worried that the shop's proximity will inspire a nutter to buy a gun and shoot up the school?

No one has answered this: What SPECIFICALLY bothers you about the store being close the the school?

Having followed the Cherrydale thing closely, I strongly encourage the organizers of this protest to look at the website and facebook page the Cherrydale community pulled together. It includes lots of links, including news coverage of gun-related " accidents" that have happened on the premises of gun stores as well as the risk of robberies because gun stores carry a very useful product for criminals. Don't let the 2nd Amendment talking points scare you off. My recollection is that the majority of pro-gun store people in the Cherrydale situation were not even local. The story was publicized through a well-known gun advocacy group and the harassment began. Honestly, I think the shameless bullying did more to empower the community than it did to deter. Good luck!

Great suggestion and, yes, the people defending this are largely from outside the area.

No, they are actually McLean residents, perhaps your neighbors if you're local.

Not my neighbors. I saw mine standing outside yesterday with signs. I think most of McLean is in agreement that this is not wanted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad that it's near an elementary school? Are you worried kids will go buy guns? Are you worried that the shop's proximity will inspire a nutter to buy a gun and shoot up the school?

No one has answered this: What SPECIFICALLY bothers you about the store being close the the school?

Having followed the Cherrydale thing closely, I strongly encourage the organizers of this protest to look at the website and facebook page the Cherrydale community pulled together. It includes lots of links, including news coverage of gun-related " accidents" that have happened on the premises of gun stores as well as the risk of robberies because gun stores carry a very useful product for criminals. Don't let the 2nd Amendment talking points scare you off. My recollection is that the majority of pro-gun store people in the Cherrydale situation were not even local. The story was publicized through a well-known gun advocacy group and the harassment began. Honestly, I think the shameless bullying did more to empower the community than it did to deter. Good luck!

Great suggestion and, yes, the people defending this are largely from outside the area.

No, they are actually McLean residents, perhaps your neighbors if you're local.

Not my neighbors. I saw mine standing outside yesterday with signs. I think most of McLean is in agreement that this is not wanted.

definitely not true. It's only an issue here on this board. It's a non-issue in McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Do we have stats regarding the injuries or fatalities stemming from weapons sold by this proprietor (or weapons stolen from)? I'm pretty sure laws keep us from accessing that info. If the shop owner can honestly and with certainty say that nobody has ever died as a result of a weapon sold out of or stolen from his store, only then could I even begin a conversation. Because guns just make everyone safer, right?

There is no way the store owner would have access to this information, unless you are talking about fatalities/injuries or thefts/ robberies occurring inside the store itself. If someone is shot (fatally or otherwise), or a gun is stolen, the firearm owner is not required to report where the firearm was purchased. McLean Firearms has been in business for several years without incident. There's no way the owner would be able to maintain his Federal Firearms License if there had been negligent injuries or fatalities occuring on the premises or he'd sold guns to people who should have been legally barred from buying guns, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad that it's near an elementary school? Are you worried kids will go buy guns? Are you worried that the shop's proximity will inspire a nutter to buy a gun and shoot up the school?

No one has answered this: What SPECIFICALLY bothers you about the store being close the the school?

Having followed the Cherrydale thing closely, I strongly encourage the organizers of this protest to look at the website and facebook page the Cherrydale community pulled together. It includes lots of links, including news coverage of gun-related " accidents" that have happened on the premises of gun stores as well as the risk of robberies because gun stores carry a very useful product for criminals. Don't let the 2nd Amendment talking points scare you off. My recollection is that the majority of pro-gun store people in the Cherrydale situation were not even local. The story was publicized through a well-known gun advocacy group and the harassment began. Honestly, I think the shameless bullying did more to empower the community than it did to deter. Good luck!

Great suggestion and, yes, the people defending this are largely from outside the area.

No, they are actually McLean residents, perhaps your neighbors if you're local.

Not my neighbors. I saw mine standing outside yesterday with signs. I think most of McLean is in agreement that this is not wanted.

definitely not true. It's only an issue here on this board. It's a non-issue in McLean.

That is a lie. Please let us know what other topics you post on, so we know to ignore those comments as well.

[Anonymous]

How do we know what percentage of current McLean residents own a gun? I have one neighbor who told me he has one locked up hidden in his house in case of emergency, and the police can't get there in time. But he said he can't tell his wife about it, or she might divorce him. I'd assume his other neighbors don't know about it. He's an active Democrat, just not on this issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know what percentage of current McLean residents own a gun? I have one neighbor who told me he has one locked up hidden in his house in case of emergency, and the police can't get there in time. But he said he can't tell his wife about it, or she might divorce him. I'd assume his other neighbors don't know about it. He's an active Democrat, just not on this issue.

There's no way to get an exact number, but consider this: the previous shop was in business for years and did well for itself. It's a pretty safe bet that most of the customers were local.

[Anonymous]

Guns, ammo, and gun stores are legal and are protected by the Second Amendment. I know some people don't like that. I appreciate living in a place and being able to protect my family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guns, ammo, and gun stores are legal and are protected by the Second Amendment. I know some people don't like that. I appreciate living in a place and being able to protect my family.

Sure. But that doesn't mean that the market can't speak and drive this business out of McLean. Isn't that what you all like? Market rules!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guns, ammo, and gun stores are legal and are protected by the Second Amendment. I know some people don't like that. I appreciate living in a place and being able to protect my family.

Sure. But that doesn't mean that the market can't speak and drive this business out of McLean. Isn't that what you all like? Market rules!

Clearly that business is not wanted by the majority of area residents in that location. It seems like an obvious ploy by the landlord, John Justice, and the gun store owner, JB Gates, to be such a nuisance that others will buy them out.

Either someone will step up to the plate and buy them out or local politicians will step in. I do not believe Sharon Bulova and John Foust will sit by and let a few right-wing freaks and a greedy landlord put children at risk and destroy property values in one of the wealthiest parts of the county.

[Anonymous]

What I like is being able to exercise my Constitutional rights. Think I'll stop by and make a new purchase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guns, ammo, and gun stores are legal and are protected by the Second Amendment. I know some people don't like that. I appreciate living in a place and being able to protect my family.

The Second Amendment has not prevented other localities from prohibiting gun shops as close to a school building as this store is to the school in McLean. If it's permitted in Fairfax, it's time to change the law. This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I didn't know who the owners were, 11:35.
Do you mind telling us who you are?
It seems you shouldn't be opposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns, ammo, and gun stores are legal and are protected by the Second Amendment. I know some people don't like that. I appreciate living in a place and being able to protect my family.

Sure. But that doesn't mean that the market can't speak and drive this business out of McLean. Isn't that what you all like? Market rules!

That's not a market decision. It's a community/government decision. There's no market forces at work in your little protest.