First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:dc resident with two different va library cards - one of which allows me to check out e books.

Agree preschool is kinda different as are in-demand public and charter schools. But I'm ok if one parents lives in DC (even a weekend parent). Maybe ok if a grandma lives here (though in both cases we should not be talking about just accessing free preschool before enrolling in K in MD - though I'd say the same for upper-NW dc residents who access free pk3 and 4 EOTP) . Not ok with using a property you own as a residency address. mom, dad, or grandparent needs to be dc resident.

I actually feel the opposite. I have more tolerance for people who own district property. Definitely not ok with those who use grandma's adress.

[Anonymous]

Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

Nah, they're just trolling you. And it worked. Lighten up Francis!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are legit explanations, OP. Maybe try to find out more.

None of their business. Maybe it is a babysitter or relative.

As a taxpayer, it is my business.

They might pay tuition. Really, it's none of your business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here -- I'd really like to think it was one of the legitimate reasons stated in prior posts, but it sure didn't seem like it. It seemed like people that live in Maryland dropping their kids off on the way to work.

Not a rental car, not a foster parent, not grandma, not military -- kids calling parents "mom" and very much looking like they'd just been on a 40 minute car ride.

It seemed very casual. That was the most jarring part.

Looking like they'd been on a 40 minute car ride? That's ridiculous. I live in MD and it takes me 10 minutes to get to the district. Not everyone lives in the far reaching suburbs. I think you need something to do now that your kids are back in school. Obsessing over whether or not somebody is legitimately attending your school is silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

BS. I have lived in DC for 2 years. I don't know anyone who moved from MD and didn't eventually change their tags and no one who is divorced with one parent in DC and one parent in MD. DCPS needs a zero tolerance policy on this. Al cheaters should be investigated especially at high demand schools. If you want your kids to go to school in DC then move the eff into the City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The custodial parent in a divorce must have an in bound residence to register a student. At Wilson they are grilling parents--You have to show your divorce decree as proof. Additionally, the parent who originally enrolled the child in school must be PRESENT at the time you are registering your kid--even if circumstances have changed. In this way they avoid getting in the middle of a battle between parents.

They mean business--I saw them doing this. There are cameras everywhere to record plates and interactions with parents. I've never seen them be so strict.

Thanks for clarifying, b/c I was going to ask. No dog in this hunt for me, but my brother had to take legal primary custody of my niece for her to be inbound for her school in another state. He and mom share custody, but now with him 60% so that DN could attend the school for which he is inbounds. Does DCPS require primary custody? Bro and Ex had to arrange respective nights at each home in order to meet the requirement. Still, the Ex is doing some drop offs during the school week, even though she is out of bounds. Can't tell in the other state because they just cross school district lines, not state lines.

Frankly, I have never understood why anyone would want to have kids in DCPS, but that's me.

I was waiting for this because of course there's always a VA or MoCo person stalking DC school threads. Oh wait, you were intrigued about a DC school thread because it was in hottest topics. Dear, DC white students (I'd add high SES black but there is no national measure for that) outperformed EVERY single state in the nation. Also, DC has free PK3 and PK4. So yes, there are MANY reasons why people cheat to get their kids into DC schools. But go ahead and insist on thinking all DC schools are like the poorest and most dilapidated like you see on Oprah. Kind of ignorant not to know the difference about a school system that neighbors you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here -- I'd really like to think it was one of the legitimate reasons stated in prior posts, but it sure didn't seem like it. It seemed like people that live in Maryland dropping their kids off on the way to work.

Not a rental car, not a foster parent, not grandma, not military -- kids calling parents "mom" and very much looking like they'd just been on a 40 minute car ride.

It seemed very casual. That was the most jarring part.

Looking like they'd been on a 40 minute car ride? That's ridiculous. I live in MD and it takes me 10 minutes to get to the district. Not everyone lives in the far reaching suburbs. I think you need something to do now that your kids are back in school. Obsessing over whether or not somebody is legitimately attending your school is silly.

10 minutes to get to the DC line sure. Not all parts of DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

BS. I have lived in DC for 2 years. I don't know anyone who moved from MD and didn't eventually change their tags and no one who is divorced with one parent in DC and one parent in MD. DCPS needs a zero tolerance policy on this. Al cheaters should be investigated especially at high demand schools. If you want your kids to go to school in DC then move the eff into the City.

Amen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here -- I'd really like to think it was one of the legitimate reasons stated in prior posts, but it sure didn't seem like it. It seemed like people that live in Maryland dropping their kids off on the way to work.

Not a rental car, not a foster parent, not grandma, not military -- kids calling parents "mom" and very much looking like they'd just been on a 40 minute car ride.

It seemed very casual. That was the most jarring part.

Looking like they'd been on a 40 minute car ride? That's ridiculous. I live in MD and it takes me 10 minutes to get to the district. Not everyone lives in the far reaching suburbs. I think you need something to do now that your kids are back in school. Obsessing over whether or not somebody is legitimately attending your school is silly.

10 minutes to get to the DC line sure. Not all parts of DC.

The point is that it's ridiculous to say that the kids "looked" like they'd been on a 40 minute car ride. What exactly does that look like?

I see kids coming into from DC every single day to go to MoCo schools. I couldn't care less and it amazes me how much time some people spend worrying about other people's lives and circumstances that they know nothing about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The custodial parent in a divorce must have an in bound residence to register a student. At Wilson they are grilling parents--You have to show your divorce decree as proof. Additionally, the parent who originally enrolled the child in school must be PRESENT at the time you are registering your kid--even if circumstances have changed. In this way they avoid getting in the middle of a battle between parents.

They mean business--I saw them doing this. There are cameras everywhere to record plates and interactions with parents. I've never seen them be so strict.

Thanks for clarifying, b/c I was going to ask. No dog in this hunt for me, but my brother had to take legal primary custody of my niece for her to be inbound for her school in another state. He and mom share custody, but now with him 60% so that DN could attend the school for which he is inbounds. Does DCPS require primary custody? Bro and Ex had to arrange respective nights at each home in order to meet the requirement. Still, the Ex is doing some drop offs during the school week, even though she is out of bounds. Can't tell in the other state because they just cross school district lines, not state lines.

Frankly, I have never understood why anyone would want to have kids in DCPS, but that's me.

I was waiting for this because of course there's always a VA or MoCo person stalking DC school threads. Oh wait, you were intrigued about a DC school thread because it was in hottest topics. Dear, DC white students (I'd add high SES black but there is no national measure for that) outperformed EVERY single state in the nation. Also, DC has free PK3 and PK4. So yes, there are MANY reasons why people cheat to get their kids into DC schools. But go ahead and insist on thinking all DC schools are like the poorest and most dilapidated like you see on Oprah. Kind of ignorant not to know the difference about a school system that neighbors you.

And I was waiting for you to post, because, God forbid, someone ask what is so f'ing hot shit about DC public schools that someone is willing to commit a crime to have their child attend one. And yup, it's up on recent topics, I read these threads every year and wonder in awe, because it must be one long assed car ride to get from where there are crappy MD schools to get to where there are good DC schools.

All I want is for someone to explain to me why the DC schools are so good that someone is willing to cheat to put their kids there, because they are free? PGCPS has preK in Title 1 Schools. Are DCPS's so much better? Or is just that you are so uptight that someone might have a MD plate and drop off a kid at a DC school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

BS. I have lived in DC for 2 years. I don't know anyone who moved from MD and didn't eventually change their tags and no one who is divorced with one parent in DC and one parent in MD. DCPS needs a zero tolerance policy on this. Al cheaters should be investigated especially at high demand schools. If you want your kids to go to school in DC then move the eff into the City.

Amen

I'm the PP that you're quoting here, and we're in agreement - I don't know why you're calling BS! Of course I think all those things I mentioned in the first paragraph are ridiculous. But the point is that there's always going to be some person on here who anecdotally hasn't changed their plates. I also totally think it's BS that apparently 40% of the kids at DCPS schools have nannies and grandparents and custodial parents in another state, but without proof otherwise, the anecdotes are going to stand on this forum. So stupid, but not worth getting into an argument over.

But no one can possibly argue that I should just chill out about someone with no ties to DC who uses DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

Nah, they're just trolling you. And it worked. Lighten up Francis!

My friends call me Psycho.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

BS. I have lived in DC for 2 years. I don't know anyone who moved from MD and didn't eventually change their tags and no one who is divorced with one parent in DC and one parent in MD. DCPS needs a zero tolerance policy on this. Al cheaters should be investigated especially at high demand schools. If you want your kids to go to school in DC then move the eff into the City.

Amen

I'm the PP that you're quoting here, and we're in agreement - I don't know why you're calling BS! Of course I think all those things I mentioned in the first paragraph are ridiculous. But the point is that there's always going to be some person on here who anecdotally hasn't changed their plates. I also totally think it's BS that apparently 40% of the kids at DCPS schools have nannies and grandparents and custodial parents in another state, but without proof otherwise, the anecdotes are going to stand on this forum. So stupid, but not worth getting into an argument over.

But no one can possibly argue that I should just chill out about someone with no ties to DC who uses DCPS.

How did we get from the OP reporting 2 MD cars, to 40% of the kids. Is this some weird DCPS school with only 5 students?

I think it's interesting that someone who has lived in DC for two whole years considers themselves an expert on the city. In my experience, the families that are most likely to be families spread across both sides of the border, are families like mine who have been in DC or the DC area for multiple generations. If you moved here within the last couple years then it's likely that your kids' grandparents and uncles and aunts are out of the area, but for families who have long histories here, it's not uncommon to have some members who have moved over the line, which often means that kids are going back and forth due to custody, childcare, or other reasons.

I've taught in DC for many years, and most classes will have at least one kid in a complicated joint custody situation, kinship care, foster care, or covered under McKinney-Vinto. These things are reality for many many kids in the city. Just because that isn't your particular experience, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Argue all you'd like that (1) it's not a good use of DCPS resources to investigate the huge number of MD plates at schools, or (2) many of the MD plates are actually legitimate users of the schools, either because they live in DC but didn't update their plates, because it's a nanny or grandparent, because of divorced spouses with joint custody.

But do NOT try and argue that a MD person who has no ties to DC, pays no taxes in DC, fraudulently signs the DCPS residency form, and takes a spot in PK3 that by necessity now means that a DC resident kid will not have access to free PK this year (because there are not enough spots in DCPS preschools) is somehow the same thing as me borrowing a book from a MD library or driving on a VA road.

You guys are lunatics. And the more people on hear who stand behind such absurd arguments makes me think there are actually way more MD residency cheaters than I initially thought. Because the only way you'd possibly stand behind such an argument is because you had something to lose.

BS. I have lived in DC for 2 years. I don't know anyone who moved from MD and didn't eventually change their tags and no one who is divorced with one parent in DC and one parent in MD. DCPS needs a zero tolerance policy on this. Al cheaters should be investigated especially at high demand schools. If you want your kids to go to school in DC then move the eff into the City.

Amen

I'm the PP that you're quoting here, and we're in agreement - I don't know why you're calling BS! Of course I think all those things I mentioned in the first paragraph are ridiculous. But the point is that there's always going to be some person on here who anecdotally hasn't changed their plates. I also totally think it's BS that apparently 40% of the kids at DCPS schools have nannies and grandparents and custodial parents in another state, but without proof otherwise, the anecdotes are going to stand on this forum. So stupid, but not worth getting into an argument over.

But no one can possibly argue that I should just chill out about someone with no ties to DC who uses DCPS.

How did we get from the OP reporting 2 MD cars, to 40% of the kids. Is this some weird DCPS school with only 5 students?

I think it's interesting that someone who has lived in DC for two whole years considers themselves an expert on the city. In my experience, the families that are most likely to be families spread across both sides of the border, are families like mine who have been in DC or the DC area for multiple generations. If you moved here within the last couple years then it's likely that your kids' grandparents and uncles and aunts are out of the area, but for families who have long histories here, it's not uncommon to have some members who have moved over the line, which often means that kids are going back and forth due to custody, childcare, or other reasons.

I've taught in DC for many years, and most classes will have at least one kid in a complicated joint custody situation, kinship care, foster care, or covered under McKinney-Vinto. These things are reality for many many kids in the city. Just because that isn't your particular experience, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Who said I'd only lived here for 2 years? I've lived in the district since 1997.