Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those kids had no right to be there-they were uninvited and many were hopping the fence and causing trouble. The officer was having trouble controlling this "mob" of kids and he got carried away. The kids should have sat down as instructed, not "mouthed off". and shown respect. Regardless of race, kids need to learn to follow rules. None of this would have happened if rules were followed. I wonder how many of you would be outraged if a mob of black kids from SE or PG hopped the fence at your fancy HOA pool, community pool (where you pay high membership dues) or private country club and started trouble-this is about a pack of unruly kids not abiding by rules and laws. As usual, it has been turned into a race issue!

Screaming "call my mother" is mouthing off? Funny he did not tackle any of the white kids milling around.

If you look at the video from another angle she definitely is resisting the officer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It appears to me that there issues on both sides.

Some of the black teens were uninvited guests at a private pool. The white lady and police officer behaved very badly. Both sides were wrong.

However, I didn't really see the other cops doing much of anything to diffuse the situation and I did see teens swarming all around the area. I heard them being asked by the officer to 'sit on the ground until they get to the bottom of this.' That is a reasonable request no matter what color you are. Why did they not do this? Is the officer expected to leave unruly teens swarm around and out of sight? His first priority is to defend and protect himself. Those 2 boys came at him when his back was turned. I can't hear what they may have said to provoke the reaction of him unholstering his weapon.

There are too many missing facts here to pass judgement. However calling this an act of racism is jumping the gun a tad too quickly. Not every incident involving white cops and black people is racism.

+1. You are right.

And of course some people will make up a dozen reasons why you aren't...so no surprise those teenagers behaved like that, if they have parents like some of the ones in this thread.

Still haven't seen anyone respond to the point that only the people of color were detained. The white woman who started it, apparently, has seen no consequences.

Or the gross (and racist) assumption that none of the White kids that were there trespassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears to me that there issues on both sides.

Some of the black teens were uninvited guests at a private pool. The white lady and police officer behaved very badly. Both sides were wrong.

However, I didn't really see the other cops doing much of anything to diffuse the situation and I did see teens swarming all around the area. I heard them being asked by the officer to 'sit on the ground until they get to the bottom of this.' That is a reasonable request no matter what color you are. Why did they not do this? Is the officer expected to leave unruly teens swarm around and out of sight? His first priority is to defend and protect himself. Those 2 boys came at him when his back was turned. I can't hear what they may have said to provoke the reaction of him unholstering his weapon.

There are too many missing facts here to pass judgement. However calling this an act of racism is jumping the gun a tad too quickly. Not every incident involving white cops and black people is racism.

I think that the reaction of the other officers - to immediately intervene when he pulled his weapon - speaks to how inappropriate his response was.

I also think that the stated details from bystanders that only the black and Hispanic teenagers were asked to sit down speaks to the racism at play.

And what he did to that girl was completely uncalled for. An unarmed minor female in a bathing suit, grabbed by the hair, face smashed into the grass and held down by an adult male with a gun. There is no universe in which that is okay, no matter what she said.

PP here. I fully agree with this statement no matter what the color of the participants are. I wouldn't agree with it if it were a black cop and a black teen. She was unarmed and shouldn't have been manhandled AT ALL. But she was resisting arrest. Are you saying the cop should have left her go after she resisted? Are you saying it's ok for her to disrespect the authority of the police by mouthing off because you're being run off from somewhere you shouldn't have been? I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm genuinely curious how you think this cop should have handled this situation?

And I'm pretty sure I read something on buzzfeed about a white girl being handcuffed.

"Stone told BuzzFeed News that when she approached the officers to explain what had happened in the pool the cop featured in the video ordered that she be handcuffed. “I asked why I was in handcuffs and he wouldn’t tell me,” she said, adding that she was the only white person handcuffed."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/texas-police-officer-suspended-after-pulling-weapon-on-teens#.miPxgYZogj

No she was NOT!! He told her to leave - she was walking away and had some chocie words for him. He chased her and physically subdued. At NO point before he slammed her did he accuse her of a crime or tell her she was being arrested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I favor putting more public parks and water parks in rich people's neighborhoods. It is a check on racism.

I bet there are public pools in those areas just like there are around here But that's not going to be as fun as crashing a private pool.

This is all beside the point. These are young teens and as far as I know, trespassing, which HAS NOT been proven yet, doesn't and shouldn't result in this kind of,police behavior.

Why on earth do we not expect more from our polIce force?

What pool, country club or HOA do you belong to? Please invite 50+ unruly, underprivileged teens to your pool, some may need to jump the fence, but that's ok! Just try it as an experiment-find a tough HS in SE or PG-put up fancy fliers and just let them come-it should be fun! Let us all know how it goes! and do tell how your neighbors react......

who has proven who says they were unruly OR underprivileged?

Right! This board is just loaded with prejudices!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Until you have experienced Black Spring Break or a House Party in your neighborhood, you cannot possibly understand any of this.

WTF does this mean?

Let me google that for you.....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+spring+break

[Anonymous]

So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.

[Anonymous]

Someone FROM the neighborhood speaks but you probably won't like what you read.

https://www.facebook.com/benet.embry/posts/10152901015923202

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until you have experienced Black Spring Break or a House Party in your neighborhood, you cannot possibly understand any of this.

WTF does this mean?

Let me google that for you.....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+spring+break

Are you the PP?

My point is, have you experienced a "Black Spring Break" in your suburban neighborhood. And did it consist of 14-16 year olds at a pool party? Again, this board is LOADED with prejudices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone FROM the neighborhood speaks but you probably won't like what you read.

https://www.facebook.com/benet.embry/posts/10152901015923202

Oh please. Scroll through the rest of his page. He's an attention whore for his radio show.

[Anonymous]

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The girl in the vidoe was mouthing off and this was getting the other kifds riled up-which could have made the whole situation worse. The girl deserved to be tackled-she is an idiot who should learn to STFU when told to! Especially by a police officer.

Yes, when your goal is to calm and de-escalate a situation involving teenagers, tackling one of the teenagers is a very effective strategy! No, wait, actually it isn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I favor putting more public parks and water parks in rich people's neighborhoods. It is a check on racism.

I bet there are public pools in those areas just like there are around here But that's not going to be as fun as crashing a private pool.

This is all beside the point. These are young teens and as far as I know, trespassing, which HAS NOT been proven yet, doesn't and shouldn't result in this kind of,police behavior.

Why on earth do we not expect more from our polIce force?

What pool, country club or HOA do you belong to? Please invite 50+ unruly, underprivileged teens to your pool, some may need to jump the fence, but that's ok! Just try it as an experiment-find a tough HS in SE or PG-put up fancy fliers and just let them come-it should be fun! Let us all know how it goes! and do tell how your neighbors react......

[b]who has proven who says they were unruly OR underprivileged?[/b]

Right! This board is just loaded with prejudices!

How does anyone know this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.

+1. And this is underscored when other officers at the same scene had to intervene to keep him from doing something stupid. That, to me, says a lot and it should to anyone else with an open mind. At the same time, White kids were there and did the same thing that the Black kids were accused of doing - different results.

[Anonymous]

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive

THIS, a thousand times, every time there's a cop/idiot interaction where people blame the citizen. I expect more from trained officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.

I'm not absolving this officer of guilt. Clearly he needs a different career.
I'm also not absolving the teens of guilt for trespassing or alleviating their parents of their responsibility to raise respectful citizens.

I see 50+ kids crashing a party they weren't invited to.
I see no parents making an effort to know what their children were doing. I know what my kids post on the internet because i make it a point to. If nothing else, for their own safety. And when they say "I'm going here" I pick up the phone and verify that they are in fact going where they say they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it has gotten to the point where black cops should always take the lead in responding to crimes involving blacks. Like female officers are the only ones allowed to search female suspects & often required to transport one. At least then race could be taken out of the equation since that is always the first thing anyone looks at.


Maybe black citizens that have had special training can volunteer to ride along with white cops, since there probably aren't enough black cops to response to all the calls.

??

The cops (white) were there to protect the neighbors (white) from the thugs-in-the-making (black).

Are you saying that cops should be asking for the demographic characteristics of the OFFENDERS before deciding whom to send? What if among the offenders there's a black woman, a transgender, a Jesuit priest and a Frenchman?

If you call 911 regarding an incident with another person one of the first questions they ask is, "Is the person white, hispanic, or African-American?"

That has not been my experience when calling 911, even when I witnessed an assault in a parking.lot. they have asked me to describe the suspect, after being asked to describe the emergency. I was not immediately asked the skin color of the guy performing the assault.