To men who have seen prostitutes...

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
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I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

There's an obligation to go into it representing yourself honestly, i.e. not lying about how much sex you will think you want to have. If you purposefully lie about how often you will predict that you'll want to have sex, that is wrong.

But to go into it hoping you will have sex every day, and you find that your libido has died, or that you are too exhausted with the work of keeping a house, working outside the home, or raising children, or you simply lose desire and affection for our spouse, and feel alienated from them, no you have no obligation to sleep with them. Which is why marital rape is recognized as a thing which very much exists, despite what some men want to believe.

Fine, but if a spouse chooses (yes it's a choice) not to ever have sex with their spouse again, then why shouldn't they be able to seek it out elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you

feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
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I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

There's an obligation to go into it representing yourself honestly, i.e. not lying about how much sex you will think you want to have. If you purposefully lie about how often you will predict that you'll want to have sex, that is wrong.

But to go into it hoping you will have sex every day, and you find that your libido has died, or that you are too exhausted with the work of keeping a house, working outside the home, or raising children, or you simply lose desire and affection for our spouse, and feel alienated from them, no you have no obligation to sleep with them. Which is why marital rape is recognized as a thing which very much exists, despite what some men want to believe.

Fine, but if a spouse chooses (yes it's a choice) not to ever have sex with their spouse again, then why shouldn't they be able to seek it out elsewhere?

Sure they can. I have no issue with that, it's their choice. But to go to a woman who is doing sex work, where there is a very large possibility that she is in fact being abused, addicted to drugs, and working for a pimp, and being exploited, is truly despicable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
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I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

That's my point! Somehow feminists see themselves as more special by virtue of having a vagina.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
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I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

That's my point! Somehow feminists see themselves as more special by virtue of having a vagina.

No they dont. But they see that no one has an obligation to provide sex to another person, regardless of their genitalia. You seem to think that BECAUSE women have a vagina, they are obligated to provide sex to men. When this is not the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?

I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

Me again - I have a theory (just dawned on me). Hard core feminism of the kind in this thread relies on diminishing men to the point where they are less than a person. That, then, gives them the right to reject and feel they should be exonerated as well.

Uh, exonerated from what exactly? The rejection police? There is nothing to be exonerated from as no one, male or female, owes any other person on this planet sex. And no one, make or female, should be guilted or forced into having it against their will.

Honestly, you sound eerily like Elliot Rodgers, who so famously thought women should be "punished" for not having sex with him. Sexual entitlement is a very dangerous thing indeed.

Actions have consequences. You can reject all you want, but don't bitch when your spouse seeks it out elsewhere. Just because a woman wants to be celibate, doesn't mean she gets to force her spouse to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
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I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

That's my point! Somehow feminists see themselves as more special by virtue of having a vagina.

No they dont. But they see that no one has an obligation to provide sex to another person, regardless of their genitalia. You seem to think that BECAUSE women have a vagina, they are obligated to provide sex to men. When this is not the case.

So you believe that a woman has the right to not provide sex to her husband, but also has the right to control whether or not he gets it elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
The
I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

That's my point! Somehow feminists see themselves as more special by virtue of having a vagina.

No they dont. But they see that no one has an obligation to provide sex to another person, regardless of their genitalia. You seem to think that BECAUSE women have a vagina, they are obligated to provide sex to men. When this is not the case.

So you believe that a woman has the right to not provide sex to her husband, but also has the right to control whether or not he gets it elsewhere?

No, I could give two shits if he decides he wants to get it elsewhere. What I have a problem with is when he can't get it for free so he has to support an industry which victimizes, abuses, rapes, and even murders women.

[Anonymous]

Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

[Anonymous]

I'm angry!

[Anonymous]

I think there is one poster who is a little unbalanced about this issue and feel all prostitutes are exploited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop it. Men are not by and large visiting prostitutes because their wives won't sleep with them. Maybe 1 in 100 of them.

You're right. They are visiting them because of different reasons, all of them wholly selfish. The "wives not sleeping with me" thing is an excuse for their abhorrent behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys are paying for sex if it is directly with cash or indirectly with emotions and time.

Ladies are kidding themselves if they think there is no male escort market. Every major city has a solid market for male escorts.

First of all, if you see emotions as being of no value other than as a means to an end of obtaining sex, then 1) you're doing it wrong and 2) how sad and unhealthy.

And secondly, there's actually no real market for gigolos for females. For gay men, on the other hand...

I didn't say emotions have no value, just the opposite. You have to invest emotion into a relationship for sex most of the time, something some people don't want to do. It isn't just men, women working long hour jobs feel the same way and look for one night stands all the time to destress from work.

Is the growing market for male escorts a sign of female sexual liberation or just a re-run of the same old stereotypes?
http://aeon.co/magazine/society/women-who-hire-escorts-are-no-different-to-men/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is one poster who is a little unbalanced about this issue and feel all prostitutes are exploited.

I don't think anyone on this board has said that or would say that. But if you are using hookers, you contribute to the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what you feminists are saying is that you can decide you don't want to have sex with your husbands, but when your husbands then look for sex elsewhere, be it an affair or an escort, you don't understand why he would do that?
The
I'm curious to know why you feel it's ok not to engage in sexual relations with a man you are married to and not expect any repercussions. I'm not talking about physical limitations, just "I don't wanna". What makes women so special (and before you start in I AM a woman) that they feel they can behave like this?

I predict crickets on this one, but what the hell do I know.

I'll get attacked. Guaranteed.

I really want to know why any woman feels that her feelings and needs are more important than her husbands. Vaginas don't give you special privileges. You don't get to reject people because you have one.

Actually do. Just like you get to reject someone if you have a dick. It's called being a human being.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is obligated to give sex when they aren't feeling like it- and yes, that includes spouses. No one is entitled to ownership of another person's body.

Ah, actually not true. There is an obligation to provide sex in marriage.

That's my point! Somehow feminists see themselves as more special by virtue of having a vagina.

No they dont. But they see that no one has an obligation to provide sex to another person, regardless of their genitalia. You seem to think that BECAUSE women have a vagina, they are obligated to provide sex to men. When this is not the case.

So you believe that a woman has the right to not provide sex to her husband, but also has the right to control whether or not he gets it elsewhere?

No, I could give two shits if he decides he wants to get it elsewhere. What I have a problem with is when he can't get it for free so he has to support an industry which victimizes, abuses, rapes, and even murders women.

On that, we can agree.

[Anonymous]

Prostitution will never go away. Make it legal and regularized and you have a chance of reducing the exploitation associated with it to some extent.

Sometimes I wonder if a wife would rather have her husband go to a prostitute or have an affair?