2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results

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Pool letter may come separately-call your school if unsure.

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DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:My NNAT score was 139 but Cogat is 120 does that mean she is automatically in the pool? We have not received any in pool letter though so far. Please Clarify.

2d graders should be on this blog!

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

Teacher said she'd submit him if he did not make pool- that was extremely clear. She also said she rarely said this and she wanted us to look into AAP since it would be great for DS for many reasons she went through at 1st quarter parent-teacher conference.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

Teacher said she'd submit him if he did not make pool- that was extremely clear. She also said she rarely said this and she wanted us to look into AAP since it would be great for DS for many reasons she went through at 1st quarter parent-teacher conference.

PP here again- asked DH, the wording was quite clear in submitting (versus recommending). This sent a strong message of support (despite not being aware of any scores at that time).

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

Teachers CAN submit referrals.

See Local Plan for the Gifted, page 6:

In addition, students in grades 2–8 may be screened upon referral from parents or legal guardians, teachers, professionals, students, peers, self or others.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/localplan/FinalLocalPlan.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

PP here with DS, teacher was clear that she would refer. Didn't care about scores nor knew about them but said AAP was a place where DS with creative critical thinking would thrive. She made it clear that if DS did not make it in pool, she would refer and for us to read about AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

PP here with DS, teacher was clear that she would refer. Didn't care about scores nor knew about them but said AAP was a place where DS with creative critical thinking would thrive. She made it clear that if DS did not make it in pool, she would refer and for us to read about AAP.

Preempting other questions- DS is our eldest so we don't have the lingo down but his teacher did very clearly say she would refer/submit DS and she wanted us to read about AAP . Was very direct- teacher led the whole conference and had her agenda- one very clearly was telling us about AAP and her position.

[Anonymous]

Is the Cogat report produced by FCPS or the publishing company? Which one did you receive ?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, what is our recourse if my son doesn't get into AAP? Help!

Recourse: You have a normal kid who has the opportunity to enjoy life. Stop being such a "helicopter parent" and let your son breathe. AAP isn't the "be all and end all." Maybe the doctor should up your Xanax Rx, or just go do some yoga to calm down.

Seriously! What is with you parents who are so obsessed with your second graders? My oldest DC was in Gen Ed in elementary school, and is now a sophmore at Princeton. But we'd be proud of him no matter where he went to college. I guess my point is that GT/AAP had absolutely no bearing on the rest of his life. It's so unimportant in the big scheme of things. Why do you all think that life is over if your child doesn't "get into" AAP? Life must be very narrow for you if this what you consider the road to success.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

PP here with DS, teacher was clear that she would refer. Didn't care about scores nor knew about them but said AAP was a place where DS with creative critical thinking would thrive. She made it clear that if DS did not make it in pool, she would refer and for us to read about AAP.

Preempting other questions- DS is our eldest so we don't have the lingo down but his teacher did very clearly say she would refer/submit DS and she wanted us to read about AAP . Was very direct- teacher led the whole conference and had her agenda- one very clearly was telling us about AAP and her position.

Sorry, this makes no sense. The first grade teacher wouldn't do the referral (not recent information) and the second grade teacher would have knowledge of the NNAT results and therefore know your child would be in the pool, at a 160 score...

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

PP here with DS, teacher was clear that she would refer. Didn't care about scores nor knew about them but said AAP was a place where DS with creative critical thinking would thrive. She made it clear that if DS did not make it in pool, she would refer and for us to read about AAP.

Preempting other questions- DS is our eldest so we don't have the lingo down but his teacher did very clearly say she would refer/submit DS and she wanted us to read about AAP . Was very direct- teacher led the whole conference and had her agenda- one very clearly was telling us about AAP and her position.

Sorry, this makes no sense. The first grade teacher wouldn't do the referral (not recent information) and the second grade teacher would have knowledge of the NNAT results and therefore know your child would be in the pool, at a 160 score...

We and many others love our teacher but there were some class changes- NNAT scores were not on her radar. After teacher talked about DS and referring- we brought up the NNAT scores. Teacher was floored at the score but then kept saying DS was gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:DS has been in pull outs and identified since preK- NNAT score was 160- cogat 129. Teacher already said she'd submit him regardless of scores (unprompted). I guess I am puzzled since these scores are different- DS is over 2 grades ahead in LA but that was the lowest score for Cogat. I did read now that cogat testing is read and is group based - meanwhile NNAT is timed. DS can wander a bit and he focuses on things so much that we have to snap him back (NOT ADHD). Based on feedback, cogat would have been better if DS could have gone on his own (not read- group timing). Anyway, has anyone else had this scenario and please share what happened. Thanks.

"Teacher" doesn't submit him.

A teacher can refer, but this is extremely rare. A teacher can also proactively suggest that the parents refer, which is more common.

PP here with DS, teacher was clear that she would refer. Didn't care about scores nor knew about them but said AAP was a place where DS with creative critical thinking would thrive. She made it clear that if DS did not make it in pool, she would refer and for us to read about AAP.

Preempting other questions- DS is our eldest so we don't have the lingo down but his teacher did very clearly say she would refer/submit DS and she wanted us to read about AAP . Was very direct- teacher led the whole conference and had her agenda- one very clearly was telling us about AAP and her position.

Sorry, this makes no sense. The first grade teacher wouldn't do the referral (not recent information) and the second grade teacher would have knowledge of the NNAT results and therefore know your child would be in the pool, at a 160 score...

We and many others love our teacher but there were some class changes- NNAT scores were not on her radar. After teacher talked about DS and referring- we brought up the NNAT scores. Teacher was floored at the score but then kept saying DS was gifted.

I have never heard of a classroom teacher saying a child is gifted in a setting like this. If your child has a 160 on the NNAT, however the discussion is moot and he is already in the pool of considers children.