How come no one is talking about Artemis II mission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tbh, I think it was more amazing to land on the moon in 1969 prior to computers (as we know them today) and only using slide rulers, paper & pencil, etc to calculate the thousands of data points needed to not only launch a space ship, but people on board, land on the moon, and return.

+1 also for me it’s hard to get excited when I’m worried about jobs, my kids futures, uncertainty. Maybe if it happened 10 years ago I may have been more interested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes it cool? They aren’t even landing on the moon, which is also something we did 57 years ago.

They have gone further in space than any human ever. The high res pics are amazing.

The concern that rich jerks like Musk and Bezos have for going to space has made me lose interest. We have real problems to solve on Earth but tech bros are super concerned about spending billions to go places we can't get to in a reasonable amount of time that are also inherently incompatible with life.

I like the idea of advances in technology and tech transfer but I don't expect a lot of benefits. Tang and pens that can write when upside down aren't solving humanity's biggest problems.

Now that more nations are competing to get to the moon, I also foresee governments taking our territorial and national issues to space. I was glad the Cold War ended. Now it's back. I don't want to waste money on "Who owns the Moon?"

[Anonymous]

People are situationally into it. I was at a bar last night and the landing was on. Everyone cheered, clapped and hugged when they landed safely. I doubt people would have done that if they were watching at home. I doubt the majority of people would have even watched at all.

I think it’s cool but I’ve got a lot of other things that are taking priority. Work, war, Trump’s antics, college applications for DD, eldercare, day to day life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tbh, I think it was more amazing to land on the moon in 1969 prior to computers (as we know them today) and only using slide rulers, paper & pencil, etc to calculate the thousands of data points needed to not only launch a space ship, but people on board, land on the moon, and return.

To be fair, they did have IBM System/360 with Fortran. I believe it was mainly for orbital calculations and simple (by today's standards) numerical simulations.

Designs and modeling would have been mostly analog.

That's why Artemis isn't all that exciting to me. We did it once, and then deleted or lost practically everything. I expect the same to happen with Artemis. The government will lose interest, and "reuse the tapes."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes it cool? They aren’t even landing on the moon, which is also something we did 57 years ago.

They have gone further in space than any human ever. The high res pics are amazing.

The concern that rich jerks like Musk and Bezos have for going to space has made me lose interest. We have real problems to solve on Earth but tech bros are super concerned about spending billions to go places we can't get to in a reasonable amount of time that are also inherently incompatible with life.

I like the idea of advances in technology and tech transfer but I don't expect a lot of benefits. Tang and pens that can write when upside down aren't solving humanity's biggest problems.

Now that more nations are competing to get to the moon, I also foresee governments taking our territorial and national issues to space. I was glad the Cold War ended. Now it's back. I don't want to waste money on "Who owns the Moon?"

I understand these points and agree that watching Bezos and Musk use space as a dick-measuring contest is very off-putting.

However I followed Artemis II every day and enjoyed watching it with my kid. In many of their interviews, the astronauts talked about how leaving the planet and getting close to the moon really hammered home for them how rare and precious Earth is. And Mars is the same. Space exploration is cool and we should keep pushing these boundaries. But the astronauts emphasized that space travel makes them MORE invested in the earth, preserving it as a place to live for us and our kids and our kids kids. Because there is nowhere else for us to live that is even a millionth as nice as earth.

I think that's an inspiring message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so cool!!!

This is a women heavy forum. No one I know is remotely interested in this. Only time I heard it mentioned is from a (male) neighbor.

Wow. Not the case for me. In fact, the opposite. My friends and I (women), my sisters, my mom, and so many I have seen online have been deeply touched by the events of the last 10 days. Women are front and center in this mission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes it cool? They aren’t even landing on the moon, which is also something we did 57 years ago.

They have gone further in space than any human ever. The high res pics are amazing.

The concern that rich jerks like Musk and Bezos have for going to space has made me lose interest. We have real problems to solve on Earth but tech bros are super concerned about spending billions to go places we can't get to in a reasonable amount of time that are also inherently incompatible with life.

I like the idea of advances in technology and tech transfer but I don't expect a lot of benefits. Tang and pens that can write when upside down aren't solving humanity's biggest problems.

Now that more nations are competing to get to the moon, I also foresee governments taking our territorial and national issues to space. I was glad the Cold War ended. Now it's back. I don't want to waste money on "Who owns the Moon?"

Then you should care about NASA. They are not rich jerks or tech bros.

[Anonymous]

Literally anything to distract from Epstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tbh, I think it was more amazing to land on the moon in 1969 prior to computers (as we know them today) and only using slide rulers, paper & pencil, etc to calculate the thousands of data points needed to not only launch a space ship, but people on board, land on the moon, and return.

To be fair, they did have IBM System/360 with Fortran. I believe it was mainly for orbital calculations and simple (by today's standards) numerical simulations.

Designs and modeling would have been mostly analog.

That's why Artemis isn't all that exciting to me. We did it once, and then deleted or lost practically everything. I expect the same to happen with Artemis. The government will lose interest, and "reuse the tapes."

Are you even paying attention?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes it cool? They aren’t even landing on the moon, which is also something we did 57 years ago.

They have gone further in space than any human ever. The high res pics are amazing.

The concern that rich jerks like Musk and Bezos have for going to space has made me lose interest. We have real problems to solve on Earth but tech bros are super concerned about spending billions to go places we can't get to in a reasonable amount of time that are also inherently incompatible with life.

I like the idea of advances in technology and tech transfer but I don't expect a lot of benefits. Tang and pens that can write when upside down aren't solving humanity's biggest problems.

Now that more nations are competing to get to the moon, I also foresee governments taking our territorial and national issues to space. I was glad the Cold War ended. Now it's back. I don't want to waste money on "Who owns the Moon?"

I understand these points and agree that watching Bezos and Musk use space as a dick-measuring contest is very off-putting.

However I followed Artemis II every day and enjoyed watching it with my kid. In many of their interviews, the astronauts talked about how leaving the planet and getting close to the moon really hammered home for them how rare and precious Earth is. And Mars is the same. Space exploration is cool and we should keep pushing these boundaries. But the astronauts emphasized that space travel makes them MORE invested in the earth, preserving it as a place to live for us and our kids and our kids kids. Because there is nowhere else for us to live that is even a millionth as nice as earth.

I think that's an inspiring message.

It's inspiring but only a handful of people get to live it firsthand. And they aren't taking SpaceX private. Commercialization and nationalization of space diminishes the attention on humane perspectives that people should develop.

[Anonymous]

$93 BILLION to see the dark side of the moon!

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"The Artemis II mission is estimated to cost over $4 billion per launch. This includes the expenses for the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket, the Orion capsule, and ground systems. The total, multi-year Artemis program, spanning from 2012 to 2025, has an estimated cost of approximately $93 billion."

[Anonymous]

Where do you get the idea that, "no one is talking about it?" Perhaps you need better news sources?

That said, a good number of people, especially younger people don't believe it happened, don't believe we landed on the moon in 69 and later and seem do doubt the abilities of a lot of modern science. It really is a dumbing down of America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think this is all a big waste of money? Here are some of the scientific innovations that have been derived from space-related exploration and experimentation. When the US government invests in science, it pays off in big ways to our economy and quality of life.

Don't forget, Tang. Add that to your list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so cool!!!

This is a women heavy forum. No one I know is remotely interested in this. Only time I heard it mentioned is from a (male) neighbor.

Most women know more about the latest celebrity scandals then they do about modern science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Literally anything to distract from Epstein.

Why are you distracted? You are free to obsess about that creep, Epstein as much as you like no matter what else is going on. You should print out all the photos and pin them up in your little basement room then pound out theories on all the forums you visit all day long. No one is stopping you. Are you able to think about two things at once?