How come no one is talking about Artemis II mission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$93 BILLION to see the dark side of the moon!

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"The Artemis II mission is estimated to cost over $4 billion per launch. This includes the expenses for the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket, the Orion capsule, and ground systems. The total, multi-year Artemis program, spanning from 2012 to 2025, has an estimated cost of approximately $93 billion."

That's a bargain. In today's dollars, the Apollo program cost $318 billion or over 2% of the US Federal budget at the time. Also in today's dollars, each of the Apollo launches from 11 to 17 were around $3 billion, with Apollo 17 nearing $3.7 billion for a much more modest program than today. Today, NASA receives less than 0.5% (closer to .04%) of the Federal budget yet we will be back on the moon likely in the next 5 years doing a lot more with a lot less money.

[Anonymous]

The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

This is untrue because the whole point of this mission was to prepare for Artemis III which will land on the moon and look for lunar ice. Are we going to land monkeys on the moon? Lunar rovers are not reliable enough to do what we want humans to do. Plus we wanted the human feedback on other aspects of the mission to prepare for other humans to go.

The goal is essentially to accelerate the Apollo program but with modern tech. Apollo got caught in a loop of doing similar missions over and over because they lacked tech to deal with basic issues like lunar dust. Now we have more options and can hopefully progress further.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What makes it cool? They aren’t even landing on the moon, which is also something we did 57 years ago.

They have gone further in space than any human ever. The high res pics are amazing.

The concern that rich jerks like Musk and Bezos have for going to space has made me lose interest. We have real problems to solve on Earth but tech bros are super concerned about spending billions to go places we can't get to in a reasonable amount of time that are also inherently incompatible with life.

I like the idea of advances in technology and tech transfer but I don't expect a lot of benefits. Tang and pens that can write when upside down aren't solving humanity's biggest problems.

Now that more nations are competing to get to the moon, I also foresee governments taking our territorial and national issues to space. I was glad the Cold War ended. Now it's back. I don't want to waste money on "Who owns the Moon?"

Then you should care about NASA. They are not rich jerks or tech bros.

I do support NASA. But, as a former fed, I believe that tech bros are interfering with our government's research priorities to benefit their own goals. And diverting our tax money to their own companies. Why should I trust Jeff Bezos to decide space policy just because he invented the internet version of the Sears & Roebuck catalogue?

I personally think that if the human race cannot keep Earth alive, it doesn't matter if we have tiny space colonies elsewhere.

I get that people are interested in space science and I like that our government funds some of it. But I don't want resource wars in space and I really question the value of sending people to Mars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think this is all a big waste of money? Here are some of the scientific innovations that have been derived from space-related exploration and experimentation. When the US government invests in science, it pays off in big ways to our economy and quality of life.

Don't forget, Tang. Add that to your list.

Incorrect. It existed before the space program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

This is untrue because the whole point of this mission was to prepare for Artemis III which will land on the moon and look for lunar ice. Are we going to land monkeys on the moon? Lunar rovers are not reliable enough to do what we want humans to do. Plus we wanted the human feedback on other aspects of the mission to prepare for other humans to go.

The goal is essentially to accelerate the Apollo program but with modern tech. Apollo got caught in a loop of doing similar missions over and over because they lacked tech to deal with basic issues like lunar dust. Now we have more options and can hopefully progress further.

A rover could remain on the moon for months unlike a human. As for reliability, the Mars rovers seemed to be very successful.

[Anonymous]

I honestly didn’t think too much about it until I saw the skit SNL did on it last night!!
Lol!!!!

I am still laughing…. 😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

Nothing shuts up those idiots. They don't believe this mission happened either. I work with some of them. It's a whole generation of willful stupidity.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was cool but I don’t totally get why NASA has astronauts spend so much time doing cutesy stuff. I get it. You’re weightless. Nutella. Music.

[Anonymous]

Just outsource it to some country that can do space exploration for a fraction of NASA's cost.

You know who to call...

[Anonymous]

There's no point continuing the space program since we allowed Musk and SpaceX to get bloated off taxpayer funds. No one is going to support long term space programs to Mars with that level of grift going on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

Nothing shuts up those idiots. They don't believe this mission happened either. I work with some of them. It's a whole generation of willful stupidity.

These people actually exist? I thought they were just people trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

Nothing shuts up those idiots. They don't believe this mission happened either. I work with some of them. It's a whole generation of willful stupidity.

These people actually exist? I thought they were just people trolling.

Amazingly enough, they exist. Any anamoly in the original moon landings is exaggerated into a vast conspiracy. For instance, "recordings" from the time don't have the round trip delay expected for a capsule so far from Earth. But if you are watching a documentary, they have edited out the boring parts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only useful thing about the Artemus mission is it will finally shut up the conspiracy morons who said the Apollo missions never happened because cosmic radiation in space outside of the Earth’s Van Allen Belts would’ve killed anyone in a spacecraft that ventured too far from the Earth.

The crew was simply live cargo. They could’ve just as easily used monkeys. The entire mission could’ve been automated.

Nothing shuts up those idiots. They don't believe this mission happened either. I work with some of them. It's a whole generation of willful stupidity.

These people actually exist? I thought they were just people trolling.

Yes, they really exist and typically also believe the Earth is flat.

[Anonymous]

I looked up the Saturday Night Live sketch and it was hysterical!