I’m tired of my exchange student talking about how easy school is here and how dumb the American kids are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"- School is laughably easy
- Curriculum is substandard,
- School year is very short
- Instruction is substandard,
- No real testing,
- No textbooks,
- Massive grade inflation,
- Incompetent and burnt out teachers / stupid, checked-out and uneducated parents
- STEM and Foreign Languages are very poorly taught by incompetent teachers
- Students are disruptive and there is poor discipline in the classroom
- Students are not differentiated
- No one fails. It is a conveyor belt system, which is producing illiterate students. School is childcare.
- The only kids who are actually learning and thriving are being supplemented at home.

- Immigrant mom. "

Then if you smart enough, there is really no reason you decided to be an “immigrant mom”.

That immigrant mom is here because America's immigration system is very lax. She isnt' able to park herself nor her family in European countries where the academic standards are indeed higher. But she is afraid of the competition in her own country and perhaps her chiildren couldn't cut it back home.

True. My kids are super achievers in a sea of idiots. Make hay while the sun shines and all that. Also, we can speak English but not not other foreign languages. So we go to places where we can speak English. USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand etc. Trying to learn German and Spanish too...but Chinese is hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s from Germany. He 17 and has quite an ego. His English is formal, but excellent and he also speaks German and Spanish fluently.
He’s not taking any math or science classes while he’s here because he doesn’t like those subjects.
He comes home from school every day telling me how the Americans can’t read, don’t know geography, history etc. I’m really tired of hearing it.
Help me survive this until June!

Truth hurts but he is not wrong.

+1

Also: Germans like to complain. It’s the national past-time.

Plus, good in bed but mechanical.

Yes, well, we’re good engineers. You want passion, find an Italian but good luck with him finding your…..can’t say in this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s from Germany. He 17 and has quite an ego. His English is formal, but excellent and he also speaks German and Spanish fluently.
He’s not taking any math or science classes while he’s here because he doesn’t like those subjects.
He comes home from school every day telling me how the Americans can’t read, don’t know geography, history etc. I’m really tired of hearing it.
Help me survive this until June!

Truth hurts but he is not wrong.

+1

Also: Germans like to complain. It’s the national past-time.

Plus, good in bed but mechanical.

Yes, well, we’re good engineers. You want passion, find an Italian but good luck with him finding your…..can’t say in this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s from Germany. He 17 and has quite an ego. His English is formal, but excellent and he also speaks German and Spanish fluently.
He’s not taking any math or science classes while he’s here because he doesn’t like those subjects.
He comes home from school every day telling me how the Americans can’t read, don’t know geography, history etc. I’m really tired of hearing it.
Help me survive this until June!

He is right 1/3 of this country is stupid it is called the cult of MAGA stupids.

How do you not understand this?

We have a country of idiots singing confederacy songs still and NAZI criminals running the government.

This area is 90% liberal. Of the liberals, half are far left.

The kids are close to 100% liberal around here.

I hate to break it to you, but the stupid kids here are likely almost all liberals and socialists.

[Anonymous]

I had a German exchange student as my friend in HS and her favorite saying was “it’s so stupid!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s actually correct. An American high school diploma won’t even get you admitted into a German university. I know this because I am German. In fact I’m currently in Germany—OT though.

Anyway, he shouldn’t be an a$$ about it though. It’s possible that he doesn’t know he’s annoying you and is just making conversation. So tell him. Germans are also very direct and frank, and it’s really not considered insulting if it’s true. So maybe help him out and let him know that Americans take a much softer approach to everything in person.

You’re the adult, lead and/or parent. Or call his parents and ask them to talk to him.

Yeah, but German schools track kids from early elementary school. And the tracking it rigid, no moving between levels once your kid is put on the "dumb" or "average" track.

If he was only in classes with the American kids who were our equivalent of the German "gymnasium" Or If he were taking our math and science classes he would be having a much more challenging experience.

In the note of geography, the American kids might not know his European geography, but I bet he is equally as ignorant of US Geography.

We hosted German exchange students a few years back when a group came to our school.

The German students all thought they would be able to take a quick weekend train trip to California and drive up to NYC for a day trip and back in a few hours.

They were shocked to hear that LA was almost as long of a flight as their flight from Europe, that a train there would take days, and that NYC is not just a quick jaunt you can do in an afternoon. They had no clue about US geography, and how expansive the US is. They were shocked to hear that Texas alone is almost double the size of Germany and that Germany is close in size to many of our smaller large states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all of the people who think it’s ok to bash not only our schools but the children who attend them. No one is making exchange students study here. Of course the school systems have lots of room for improvement. But people need to remember the rules that apply to public schools that have to be followed.

When Americans are overseas complaining about their host countries they are labeled as rude and arrogant Americans and rightly so. Why is it ok for others to express such negativity when we are the host.

This. I’d offer to send him back if the school is not a good fit. He doesn’t want to fail behind does he? I wouldn’t make that offer to him either, I’d contact his program and arrange his return. Buh bye

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- School is laughably easy
- Curriculum is substandard,
- School year is very short
- Instruction is substandard,
- No real testing,
- No textbooks,
- Massive grade inflation,
- Incompetent and burnt out teachers / stupid, checked-out and uneducated parents
- STEM and Foreign Languages are very poorly taught by incompetent teachers
- Students are disruptive and there is poor discipline in the classroom
- Students are not differentiated
- No one fails. It is a conveyor belt system, which is producing illiterate students. School is childcare.
- The only kids who are actually learning and thriving are being supplemented at home.

- Immigrant mom.

Comes off as ungrateful and supercilious. If your country is so much better, head home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"- School is laughably easy
- Curriculum is substandard,
- School year is very short
- Instruction is substandard,
- No real testing,
- No textbooks,
- Massive grade inflation,
- Incompetent and burnt out teachers / stupid, checked-out and uneducated parents
- STEM and Foreign Languages are very poorly taught by incompetent teachers
- Students are disruptive and there is poor discipline in the classroom
- Students are not differentiated
- No one fails. It is a conveyor belt system, which is producing illiterate students. School is childcare.
- The only kids who are actually learning and thriving are being supplemented at home.

- Immigrant mom. "

Then if you smart enough, there is really no reason you decided to be an “immigrant mom”.

That immigrant mom is here because America's immigration system is very lax. She isnt' able to park herself nor her family in European countries where the academic standards are indeed higher. But she is afraid of the competition in her own country and perhaps her chiildren couldn't cut it back home.

True. My kids are super achievers in a sea of idiots. Make hay while the sun shines and all that. Also, we can speak English but not not other foreign languages. So we go to places where we can speak English. USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand etc. Trying to learn German and Spanish too...but Chinese is hard.

Uh huh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s from Germany. He 17 and has quite an ego. His English is formal, but excellent and he also speaks German and Spanish fluently.
He’s not taking any math or science classes while he’s here because he doesn’t like those subjects.
He comes home from school every day telling me how the Americans can’t read, don’t know geography, history etc. I’m really tired of hearing it.
Help me survive this until June!

He is right 1/3 of this country is stupid it is called the cult of MAGA stupids.

How do you not understand this?

We have a country of idiots singing confederacy songs still and NAZI criminals running the government.

This area is 90% liberal. Of the liberals, half are far left.

The kids are close to 100% liberal around here.

I hate to break it to you, but the stupid kids here are likely almost all liberals and socialists.

Rotfl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s actually correct. An American high school diploma won’t even get you admitted into a German university. I know this because I am German. In fact I’m currently in Germany—OT though.

Anyway, he shouldn’t be an a$$ about it though. It’s possible that he doesn’t know he’s annoying you and is just making conversation. So tell him. Germans are also very direct and frank, and it’s really not considered insulting if it’s true. So maybe help him out and let him know that Americans take a much softer approach to everything in person.

You’re the adult, lead and/or parent. Or call his parents and ask them to talk to him.

Yeah, but German schools track kids from early elementary school. And the tracking it rigid, no moving between levels once your kid is put on the "dumb" or "average" track.

If he was only in classes with the American kids who were our equivalent of the German "gymnasium" Or If he were taking our math and science classes he would be having a much more challenging experience.

In the note of geography, the American kids might not know his European geography, but I bet he is equally as ignorant of US Geography.

We hosted German exchange students a few years back when a group came to our school.

The German students all thought they would be able to take a quick weekend train trip to California and drive up to NYC for a day trip and back in a few hours.

They were shocked to hear that LA was almost as long of a flight as their flight from Europe, that a train there would take days, and that NYC is not just a quick jaunt you can do in an afternoon. They had no clue about US geography, and how expansive the US is. They were shocked to hear that Texas alone is almost double the size of Germany and that Germany is close in size to many of our smaller large states.

Australian here (former DC resident), popping a toe in the water and hoping the sharks are elsewhere.

Geography is not map memorization. It is an integrated subject that explores the development of land over the millennia, land and water systems, nations and migration, environmental development/destruction.

Yes, know your map. The US needs to do that, as a minimum. You can also go deeper. Highly recommended.

No idea about the German kid. But please stop smearing geography as the study of a map in 1945. Lest you sound…

…what did the German kid say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s actually correct. An American high school diploma won’t even get you admitted into a German university. I know this because I am German. In fact I’m currently in Germany—OT though.

Anyway, he shouldn’t be an a$$ about it though. It’s possible that he doesn’t know he’s annoying you and is just making conversation. So tell him. Germans are also very direct and frank, and it’s really not considered insulting if it’s true. So maybe help him out and let him know that Americans take a much softer approach to everything in person.

You’re the adult, lead and/or parent. Or call his parents and ask them to talk to him.

Yeah, but German schools track kids from early elementary school. And the tracking it rigid, no moving between levels once your kid is put on the "dumb" or "average" track.

If he was only in classes with the American kids who were our equivalent of the German "gymnasium" Or If he were taking our math and science classes he would be having a much more challenging experience.

In the note of geography, the American kids might not know his European geography, but I bet he is equally as ignorant of US Geography.

We hosted German exchange students a few years back when a group came to our school.

The German students all thought they would be able to take a quick weekend train trip to California and drive up to NYC for a day trip and back in a few hours.

They were shocked to hear that LA was almost as long of a flight as their flight from Europe, that a train there would take days, and that NYC is not just a quick jaunt you can do in an afternoon. They had no clue about US geography, and how expansive the US is. They were shocked to hear that Texas alone is almost double the size of Germany and that Germany is close in size to many of our smaller large states.

Australian here (former DC resident), popping a toe in the water and hoping the sharks are elsewhere.

Geography is not map memorization. It is an integrated subject that explores the development of land over the millennia, land and water systems, nations and migration, environmental development/destruction.

Yes, know your map. The US needs to do that, as a minimum. You can also go deeper. Highly recommended.

No idea about the German kid. But please stop smearing geography as the study of a map in 1945. Lest you sound…

…what did the German kid say?

What exactly does knowing this do for you that Americans haven’t innovated a workaround for?

[Anonymous]

Europeans have massive egos with major inferiority complexes when it comes to America. They LOVE to hate America because they used to rule the world (the British hegemony is long over) but do not anymore. I’ve seen Europeans who visit America, live in America, and are even citizens of America constantly criticize America. And if you criticize Europe even once, they go ballistic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is correct but you can also ask him to point out what great German startups are IPOing next year so you can inform your investment advisor and wait while he is silent.

This is so true. I’ve heard that one thing that American schools teach much better than European schools is critical thinking and how to be creative.

America does seem to be ahead of the world on innovation in the past 100 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- School is laughably easy
- Curriculum is substandard,
- School year is very short
- Instruction is substandard,
- No real testing,
- No textbooks,
- Massive grade inflation,
- Incompetent and burnt out teachers / stupid, checked-out and uneducated parents
- STEM and Foreign Languages are very poorly taught by incompetent teachers
- Students are disruptive and there is poor discipline in the classroom
- Students are not differentiated
- No one fails. It is a conveyor belt system, which is producing illiterate students. School is childcare.
- The only kids who are actually learning and thriving are being supplemented at home.

- Immigrant mom.

Comes off as ungrateful and supercilious. If your country is so much better, head home.

Only Native Americans can tell anyone to go back because this is their country. All the others are just settlers. USA is open for anyone to take over, dumbass!