Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

What is with parents talking about the attractiveness of students?

World class academics? Really. Trump won with students at Alabama. Proof enough it’s not the place for serious students.

Gross x2

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Anonymous wrote:What about the “southern fraternities vs northern fraternities?”

I was in a fraternity in DC and it has chapters all over the place. Florida to Colorado to Canada. Is the regionalism a feature or are these “northern fraternities” just new chapters of national fraternities because the old ones didn’t want Jersey boys?

My understanding is that sororities have a vibe/reputstion. Some are filled with out of state kids and others are mostly limited to southern kids, where you probably need to have local connections etc. They have just evolved that way. The newer ones are where the oos kids join. They used to be considered less cool but I don’t think that’s the case now.

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The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The tours were took in the spring of a few T20s it seemed like Caucasian American kids were a small minority of the overall student body. Indian and Asian were the clear majority, then Jewish, Hispanic, Arabic, and Black American and Nigerian kids. It felt like a UN summit.

This x1000. It was shocking. I get why people are outraged. It is 100% manufactured ratios and keeping out smart, UMC, high achieving kids SOLEY because they are white. They want that DEI. Best thing Trump has ever done is force these schools to scrap their ridiculous DEI efforts. And I am a liberal democrat! DEI just reached the point of absurdity.

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Hm, should this read, “*white* high schoolers”?? Serious question.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

I’m from Gainesville in the 90s. It was exactly like that.

Maybe it’s better now but don’t regret avoiding it then.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

What is with parents talking about the attractiveness of students?

World class academics? Really. Trump won with students at Alabama. Proof enough it’s not the place for serious students.

Gross x2

Plenty of writers used to write about how everyone at Yale and Stanford were attractive overachievers; from Fitzgerald a hundred years ago to Ann Coulter and David Brooks 20 years ago.

People instinctively appreciate beauty. People instinctively appreciate happy and confident young adults. There’s a certain energy to these booming southern campuses. Night and day from the gloomy, foreigner-filled campuses in the north and northeast.

I think like this trigger you ruthless striver parents. Y’all know no amount of scamming and helicopter parenting can get your kid into a top tier sorority or fraternity in the south.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

I’m from Gainesville in the 90s. It was exactly like that.

Maybe it’s better now but don’t regret avoiding it then.

It was mass media fueled anti-white, anti-south propaganda. As if south side Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, Morningside Heights Manhattan, and New Haven were utopias. They were/are crime ridden dumps.

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9 pages on tabloid fake news. nice

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Anonymous wrote:So now USC means the University of South Carolina, not University of Southern California.

If the article is about the South, it sure would. But why would anyone on the east coast assume one means California when they say USC?

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

Part of the dumbing down of America. Education isn’t the focus. Just partying and enjoying themselves. I’m not sure why parents pay for the 4 year party but they are.

Worse their DD are going to jail or possibly death.
Plus no jobs upon graduation is a great financial decision

Why would there be no jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:Generally, the SEC schools offer both a better education and a better experience than public colleges in the Northeast. Most people would choose Georgia or Florida over UMass or Rutgers and so on. It’s not surprising that many students in the Northeast are choosing Southern schools. They are better by every metric over their counterparts up North.

As for Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice - they compete for the same students as the Ivy League. But those three schools seem to be on the upswing when it comes to getting talented students. Whereas most of the Ivy schools seem particularly blah and even miserable these days. The Ivy brand doesn’t have the same cachet it did a generation ago. So more and more top students are valuing campus experience over the name brand of the old Ivy schools. And Duke, Vandy, and Rice are all well known for being fairly happy schools - and that matters for the more well adjusted smart 18 year olds applying to college today.

It's not useful to lump all the SEC schools together in posts such as the one above. There's a HUGE difference in the educational quality and experience at the University of Florida or UGA (e.g., incoming student stats, graduation rates, etc.)than at, say, Mississippi State or University of Arkansas.

Sure. But Texas, Florida, and Georgia are all much better public universities academically than anything in the Northeast. You can also get a very solid education at Texas A&M and Alabama. And I'd argue that South Carolina, Auburn, and Tennessee are still better academically than any public university in the Northeast.

That's a lot of SEC schools.

The Northeastern states dropped the ball when it comes to public education. If you have no chance at Harvard or Brown, why on Earth would any student choose to study at some bleak, desolate public university in the Northeast?

Why are you over focusing on the Northeast? Yes, many of the oldest universities are in the NE and they are private. But the best states for public universities are not in the South: they are California and Virginia, both of which have multiple very strong schools. Nothing else comes close. States that have two strong state schools? Pennsylvania, Michigan and sure now you start getting into some Southern states. New York also has a very good, inexpensive, very under-rated state school system.

This whole premise is ridiculous. Yes, kids who 30 years ago might have gone to the University of New Hampshire now apply to University of Tennessee. Good for them. The only SEC schools that are in competition with Ivies are also PRIVATE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

What is with parents talking about the attractiveness of students?

World class academics? Really. Trump won with students at Alabama. Proof enough it’s not the place for serious students.

Gross x2

Plenty of writers used to write about how everyone at Yale and Stanford were attractive overachievers; from Fitzgerald a hundred years ago to Ann Coulter and David Brooks 20 years ago.

People instinctively appreciate beauty. People instinctively appreciate happy and confident young adults. There’s a certain energy to these booming southern campuses. Night and day from the gloomy, foreigner-filled campuses in the north and northeast.

I think like this trigger you ruthless striver parents. Y’all know no amount of scamming and helicopter parenting can get your kid into a top tier sorority or fraternity in the south.

This is of zero appeal to nearly everyone at top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:9 pages on tabloid fake news. nice

The surest way to ensure clicks and views is to write articles that make white people feel better about their choices -

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tours were took in the spring of a few T20s it seemed like Caucasian American kids were a small minority of the overall student body. Indian and Asian were the clear majority, then Jewish, Hispanic, Arabic, and Black American and Nigerian kids. It felt like a UN summit.

This x1000. It was shocking. I get why people are outraged. It is 100% manufactured ratios and keeping out smart, UMC, high achieving kids SOLEY because they are white. They want that DEI. Best thing Trump has ever done is force these schools to scrap their ridiculous DEI efforts. And I am a liberal democrat! DEI just reached the point of absurdity.

White kids need DEI to get admitted to T20, “liberal”.